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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:15-09-2018 08:55:29Copy HTML

The following article, for any interested, discuss 3 evidences that confirm the Bible is not  made up.


See link below - but in short, the three  evidences are:


  1. The Bible is unique in content.

  2. The Bible is confirmed through Archaeology 

  3. The Bible is confirmed through God's challenge to other religions.

I would include, in that last point, 'atheism'.


https://answersingenesis.org/is-the-bible-true/3-evidences-confirm-bible-not-made-up/?utm_source=articlesmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_content=featurebutton&utm_campaign=20170225&mc_cid=bd10ae2474&mc_eid=cab2b47150

 

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #31
  • From:USA

Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 12:19:48Copy HTML

One could argue this in reverse as well.

Because some of the things in the bible are demonstrably false, like a global flood and the repopulation of the earth from a single family.....both demonstrably false


One could indeed argue this in reverse - for example, if you could actually back up your above claims about the flood and repopulation.


Hey, I would be impressed if you started handling a dictionary correctly, and not just when it suits you.



Anyway, the link is there, and it is but a drop in the bucket of the evidence that supports the BIble.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #32
  • From:New_zealand

Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 09:11:45Copy HTML

One could argue this in reverse as well.

Because some of the things in the bible are demonstrably false, like a global flood and the repopulation of the earth from a single family.....both demonstrably false


One could indeed argue this in reverse - for example, if you could actually back up your above claims about the flood and repopulation.


Hey, I would be impressed if you started handling a dictionary correctly, and not just when it suits you.



Anyway, the link is there, and it is but a drop in the bucket of the evidence that supports the BIble.



There is no evidence.  The flood and repopulation of the earth are fairy stories.  How did Noah get the kiwi birds on his ark?  And how did he get them back to New Zealand?  Just one "for example".  It simply did not happen.  Anyone who believes it is a moron.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #33
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 09:26:02Copy HTML

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"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #34
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 12:49:51Copy HTML

One could argue this in reverse as well.

Because some of the things in the bible are demonstrably false, like a global flood and the repopulation of the earth from a single family.....both demonstrably false


One could indeed argue this in reverse - for example, if you could actually back up your above claims about the flood and repopulation.


Hey, I would be impressed if you started handling a dictionary correctly, and not just when it suits you.



Anyway, the link is there, and it is but a drop in the bucket of the evidence that supports the BIble.



There is no evidence.  The flood and repopulation of the earth are fairy stories.  How did Noah get the kiwi birds on his ark?  And how did he get them back to New Zealand?  Just one "for example".  It simply did not happen.  Anyone who believes it is a moron.


So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #35
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 01:39:36Copy HTML

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LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #36
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 02:38:55Copy HTML

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LOL


" i have nothing to offer but my childishness and dysfunctional disorder"- BOGUSPUMPED

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #37
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 03:08:04Copy HTML

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A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #38
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 08:54:41Copy HTML

Anyway, the link is there, and it is but a drop in the bucket of the evidence that supports the BIble.



There is no evidence.  The flood and repopulation of the earth are fairy stories.  How did Noah get the kiwi birds on his ark?  And how did he get them back to New Zealand?  Just one "for example".  It simply did not happen.  Anyone who believes it is a moron.


So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime.


Enlighten me, why don't you?  How did Noah et al. collect two of every species of animal on the planet?  And put them back?


Of course, also you could explain how the Chinese didn't notice that Asia was inundated.

Or you could admit that it was a fairy story, possibly prompted by folk memory of a huge flood, possibly the inundation of the Black Sea.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #39
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:19-09-2018 11:51:48Copy HTML

Anyway, the link is there, and it is but a drop in the bucket of the evidence that supports the BIble.



There is no evidence.  The flood and repopulation of the earth are fairy stories.  How did Noah get the kiwi birds on his ark?  And how did he get them back to New Zealand?  Just one "for example".  It simply did not happen.  Anyone who believes it is a moron.


So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime.


Enlighten me, why don't you?  How did Noah et al. collect two of every species of animal on the planet?  And put them back?


Of course, also you could explain how the Chinese didn't notice that Asia was inundated.

Or you could admit that it was a fairy story, possibly prompted by folk memory of a huge flood, possibly the inundation of the Black Sea.


The Bible does NOT tell us HOW noah collected the animals, but that doesn't make the story not true!

" New research recently published in Science by a group of mostly Chinese researchers led by Qinglong Wu reports geological evidence for an event they propose may be behind China’s story of a great flood."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-chinese-megaflood-may-be-fact-not-fiction/

Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #40
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:20-09-2018 01:58:47Copy HTML

Sorry Yobbo, but if having unaswered questions disproves something, well, none of us could beleive man evolved from animals.


Lets be honest - if you were convinced the Bible is the Word of God, what would be your response then?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #41
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:20-09-2018 02:03:59Copy HTML

I am not so demeted that I believe that the bible is the word of god.

It is the word of primitives who didn't understand the universe so made up fairy stories to explain matters.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #42
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:20-09-2018 02:24:18Copy HTML

I am not so demeted that I believe that the bible is the word of god.

It is the word of primitives who didn't understand the universe so made up fairy stories to explain matters.


So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime.

Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #43
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:20-09-2018 05:00:12Copy HTML

I am not so demeted that I believe that the bible is the word of god.

It is the word of primitives who didn't understand the universe so made up fairy stories to explain matters.



But that is not what I asked you - why do you choose to avoid that question?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #44
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:21-09-2018 02:17:31Copy HTML

So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime. ______ We are talking about the flood here.  The predetermination comes from your fairy tale book.  It declared to stupid people in the middle east that God created a global flood.  Idiots accepted it a priori without any evidence. Later, as humans evolved another 2000 years and some of us were not dumb as bricks, we began to find evidence that took us in a different direction than the predetermined fairy tale book.  We followed the evidence and data that told us with 100% certainty there was no global flood.  Animals DOD NOT evolve from one pair a few thousand years ago....this is proven, not falsifiable, as in FACT. You have it backwards. It is amazing to me anyone could be so stupid not to see that. Actually, since Ive known you it is no longer amazing.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #45
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:21-09-2018 03:26:27Copy HTML

Animals DOD NOT evolve from one pair a few thousand years ago....this is proven, not falsifiable, as in FACT.More statements out of the blue.   Lets be honest - you do not call yourself an evolutionist, true?  How would you describe yourself?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #46
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:21-09-2018 06:00:55Copy HTML

Unlike you, I would consider skwanderer to be a rational scientist.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #47
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 01:01:44Copy HTML

So how would you account then for a rational scientist posting irrationally?  Out of curiosity?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #48
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 01:22:24Copy HTML

Or, Yobbo, are you saying that a rational scientist cannot be an evolutionist?


Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #49
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 03:14:45Copy HTML

So YOU begin with a predetermination and NOT beginnig with a blank page to see where the direction takes you. You are a classic case of how MANY get it wrong by misunderstanding that if THEY can't contain something WITHIN their own understanding then they just discard it, NEVER understanding that there are things in this life that are never going to fall WITHIN the limitations of human thinking and are not humble enough to recognize that they will never understnd EVERYTHING in this lifetime. ______ We are talking about the flood here.  The predetermination comes from your fairy tale book.  It declared to stupid people in the middle east that God created a global flood.  Idiots accepted it a priori without any evidence. Later, as humans evolved another 2000 years and some of us were not dumb as bricks, we began to find evidence that took us in a different direction than the predetermined fairy tale book.  We followed the evidence and data that told us with 100% certainty there was no global flood.  Animals DOD NOT evolve from one pair a few thousand years ago....this is proven, not falsifiable, as in FACT. You have it backwards. It is amazing to me anyone could be so stupid not to see that. Actually, since Ive known you it is no longer amazing.-skdummy


It sure IS amazing that you ARE so STUPID skdummy!

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #50
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 03:52:17Copy HTML

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A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #51
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 07:18:25Copy HTML

Or, Yobbo, are you saying that a rational scientist cannot be an evolutionist?



I assume that rational scientists accept the theory of evolution, don't you?

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #52
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 07:55:09Copy HTML

There are rational scientists who do, and who do not.  The first group has much larger numbers.


As an aside, would you say that someone that believes in evolution is an evolutionist?   Be he/she a scientist or a layman?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #53
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:22-09-2018 11:41:39Copy HTML

There are rational scientists who do, and who do not.  The first group has much larger numbers.


As an aside, would you say that someone that believes in evolution is an evolutionist?   Be he/she a scientist or a layman?


It is not a word I would use, but I guess the definition applies.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #54
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 12:03:56Copy HTML

Ok.   Per the dictionary it certainly appears to apply.


So, where do we go from here?    You really have not addressed the article, and that is up to you.  That is true of Skw.   However, that kind of argues against either of you being rational on this topic then.

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skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #55
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 01:20:43Copy HTML

It sure IS amazing that you ARE so STUPID skdummy! ___ The depth of Wale's rebuttals are somewhat lacking. Although it is hard to counter the evidence presented above about the predetermined nature of a global flood. Clearly I was wrong that there is no evidence of a global flood and assuming a global flood happened because the bible says so is clearly NOT predetermining an answer in the absence of evidence......said no one ever. Wale's entire debate skills is to: a) ignore my argument b) call me stupid. I remember when I was in third grade. Thanks for the memories Wale.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #56
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 01:23:13Copy HTML

So, where do we go from here? You really have not addressed the article, and that is up to you. That is true of Skw. ___ I addressed it straight on. You are a very dishonest person Tomas. Remind me what your god says about dishonesty again? 1) That locations exist in Archaeology is NOT evidence the entire bible is correct. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's locations in the lost world exist, which doesn't mean we live with dinosaurs. 2) God's challenge to other religions utterly fails with Buddhism. 3) Nearly early every book ever written by man has unique content.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #57
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 02:10:01Copy HTML

Well, if you are not going to read the article in the link for comprehension, Skw, not going to be able to help you there.


But if you were honest (lets pretend), and you had two persons telling you something you have no knowledge of, the one who is able to at least provide information that you can corroborate, that information will be, for you, evidence that you can trust that person over the other.


That is what thinking folk do.   Irrational folk will make exceptions, like with the Bible........................

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #58
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 07:46:02Copy HTML

Tomas might actually believe that “if you read the article surely you will accept it” I read the article Tomas.    It’s bullshit.   I refuted it.  You have not attempted to rebut the refutation. All you do as you always do is merely claim that we just don’t understand or that we aren't reading what you post.    That is not an argument.   The reasons given in the article are pure BS.  I refuted them.  Got a rebuttal?  This is what a rebuttal would look like. Tomas: “You say that just because an archaeological site mentioned in the Bible exists, is not proof the events and people are real.....but that is incorrect because (your rebuttal here) Give it a shot.  Enter a debate.  There is a first time for everything.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #59
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 08:26:26Copy HTML

At least Tomas tries to argue.  Wale simply insults anyone who points out what a fucktard he is.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #60
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Re:3 Evidences That Confirm the Bible Is Not Made Up

Date Posted:23-09-2018 09:20:09Copy HTML

At least Tomas tries to argue.  Wale simply insults anyone who points out what a fucktard he is.


No, wale respomds APPEOPRIATELY to the level of those whose statements lack substance, like yours!

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