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Yobbo
  • From:New_zealand

Date Posted:09-10-2016 03:03:16Copy HTML

Since he ignored my request on the Easter page....
....perhaps Tom
ás can explain why all these contradictions occur in the gospels and NT.
Just how can something be gospel true when it conflicts with another gospel truth?


Father Dan's Easter Quiz:

1. Who first came to the tomb on Sunday morning?
a. one woman (John 20:1)
b. two women (Matt. 28:1)
c. three women (Mark 16:1)
d. more than three women (Luke 23:55-56; 24:1,10)

2. She (they) came
a. while it was still dark (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)
b. after the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)

3. The woman (women) came to the tomb
a. to anoint the body of Jesus with spices (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1)
b. just to look at it (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)

4. The women had obtained the spices
a. on Friday before sunset (Luke 23:54-56; 24:1)
a. after sunset on Saturday (Mark 16:1)

5. The first visitor(s) was/were greeted by
a. an angel (Matt. 28:2-5)
b. a young man (Mark 16:5)
c. two men (Luke 24:4)
d. no one (John 20:1-2)

6. The greeter(s)
a. was sitting on the stone outside the tomb (Matt 28:2)
b. was sitting inside the tomb (Mark 16:5)
c. were standing inside the tomb (Luke 24:3-4)

7. After finding the tomb empty, the woman/women
a. ran to tell the disciples (Matt. 28:7-8; Mark 16:10; Luke 24:9; John 20:2)
b. ran away and said nothing to anyone (Mark 16:8)

8. The risen Jesus first appeared to
a. Mary Magdalene alone (John 20:14; Mark 16:9)
b. Cleopas and another disciple (Luke 24:13,15,18)
c. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (Matt. 28:1,9)
d. Cephas (Peter) alone (1 Cor. 15:4-5; Luke 24:34)

9. Jesus first appeared
a. somewhere between the tomb and Jerusalem (Matt. 28:8-9)
b. Just outside the tomb (John 20:11-14)
c. in Galilee - some 80 miles (130 Km) north of Jerusalem (Mark 16:6-7)
d. on the road to Emmaus - Miles (11 Km) west of Jerusalem (Luke 24:13-15)
e. we are not told where (Mark 16:9; 1 Cor. 15:4-5)

10. The disciples were to see Jesus first
a. in Galilee (Mark 16:7; Matt. 28:7,10,16)
b. in Jerusalem (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:33,36; John 20:19; Acts 1:4)

11. the disciples were told that they would meet the risen Jesus in Galilee
a. by the women, who had been told by an angel of the Lord, then by Jesus himself after the resurrection (Matt. 28:7-10; Mark 16:7)
b. by Jesus himself, before the crucifiction (Mark 26:32)

12. The risen Jesus
a. wanted to be touched (John 20:27)
b. did not want to be touched (John 20:17)
c. did not mind being touched (Matt. 28:9-10)

13. Jesus ascended to Heaven
a. the same day that he was resurrected (Mark 16:9,19; Luke 24:13,28-36,50-51)
b. forty days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
c. we are not told that he ascended to Heaven at all (Matt. 28:10, 16-20; John 21:25; the original Gospel of Mark ends at 16:8)

14. The disciples received the Holy Spirit
a. 50 days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
b. in the evening of the same day as the resurrection (John 20:19-22)

15. The risen Jesus
a. was recognized by those who saw him (Matt. 28:9; Mark 16:9-10)
b. was not always recognizable (Mark 16:12; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:14-15)

16. The risen Jesus
a. was physical (Matt. 28:9; Luke 24:41-43; John 20:27)
b. was not physical (Mark 16:9,12,14; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:19,26; 1 Cor. 15:5-8)

17. The risen Jesus was seen by the disciples
a. presumably only once (Matt. 28:16-17)
b. first by two of them, later by all eleven (Mark 16:12-14; Luke 24:13-15,33,36-51)
c. three times (John 20:19,26; 21:1,14)
d. many times (Acts 1:3)

18. When Jesus appeared to the disciples
a. there were eleven of them (Matt. 28:16-17; Luke 24:33,36)
b. twelve of them (1 Cor. 15:5)


Hey, when has religion ever let facts or figures get in the way of a good quote. If this quiz has in any way shaken your faith, simply open the Bible and pull out sentences at random that make you feel good or (completely out of context) reaffirm any belief you want to hold.

Modern-day Easter is derived from two ancient traditions: one Judeo-Christian and the other Pagan. Both Christians and Pagans have celebrated death and resurrection themes following the Spring Equinox for millennia. Most religious historians believe that many elements of the Christian observance of Easter were derived from earlier Pagan celebrations.

The equinox occurs each year on March 20, 21 or 22. Both Neopagans and Christians continue to celebration religious rituals in the present day. Wiccans and other Neopagans usually hold their celebrations on the day or eve of the equinox. Western Christians wait until the Sunday on or after the next full moon. The Eastern Orthodox churches follow the Julian Calendar, so that their celebration is generally many weeks after that of the Western churches.

The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similar "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [were] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:

Aphrodite from Cyprus
Astarte, from Phoenicia
Demeter, from Mycenae
Hathor from Egypt
Ishtar from Assyria
Kali, from India
Ostara, a Norse Goddess of fertility. Read More.

But WAIT! Various early church writers, such as Irenaeus (Bishop of Lyons; circa 120 to ?) Justin Martyr (Christian apologist; 100 to 165), Tertullian (Christian theologian; circa 160 to 220 +) concluded that the Pagan/Christian similarities were a Satanic attempt at "diabolical mimicry." Satan was said to have use "plagiarism by anticipation." That is, the Devil replicated the life experiences of Jesus, centuries before his birth. The reason was to confuse the public into thinking that Jesus was merely a copy of previous godmen.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #31
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-06-2018 11:42:55Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


In your inverted thinking, I guess that is a response somehow. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-06-2018 02:46:41Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 12:06:00Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL



In your inverted thinking, I guess that is a response somehow. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 04:00:34Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #35
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 09:20:16Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


I guess this is the only response your inverted and limited mind can conjure up. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 09:35:19Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


This limited response must be all your limited brain is capable of. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 10:20:40Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-06-2018 11:33:04Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


Thanks for proving my point! LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-06-2018 12:21:12Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-06-2018 02:29:17Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


You must be the poster child for mental illness. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-06-2018 02:45:51Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


One day in the future perhaps they might find a cure for you. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-06-2018 04:35:34Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #43
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-06-2018 12:14:49Copy HTML

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #44
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-06-2018 11:47:08Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


Psychiatrist's must love observing you. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-06-2018 11:48:25Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.

When you stop pasting from OTHER sites at length and use your own words and thoughts, maybe we can show you the error of your ways Dobbo.
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-06-2018 12:39:57Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #47
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-06-2018 04:24:56Copy HTML

Reply to wale63

Reply to Yobbo

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.

When you stop pasting from OTHER sites at length and use your own words and thoughts, maybe we can show you the error of your ways Dobbo.

In other words, Wale cannot explain why there are contradictions nor can he say which of several statements are true and which are not.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-06-2018 08:05:22Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

Reply to wale63

Reply to Yobbo

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.

When you stop pasting from OTHER sites at length and use your own words and thoughts, maybe we can show you the error of your ways Dobbo.

In other words, Wale cannot explain why there are contradictions nor can he say which of several statements are true and which are not.

WRONG ( once again). YOU have no original thoughts, copy entire sections from other sites which require time and space which YOU are not really worthy of. If you can make your presentations more specific and compact , then maybe we can answer you.
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-06-2018 08:05:51Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


You me stuck on the same medication. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-06-2018 11:24:26Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #51
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-06-2018 12:20:56Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


I guess you repeat your absurd response to maintain a continuity from the contrary existence you lead. LOL
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-06-2018 12:48:29Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #53
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-06-2018 01:00:59Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


just asking, were too may drugs tested on you in real life? LOL
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #54
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:02-09-2018 06:19:05Copy HTML

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:04-09-2018 06:05:32Copy HTML

Wale refuses to explain why he thinks the contradictions cited are wrong. He simply denigrates the sources I quote; he can't explain why he denies them, just that because they are quotes, he won't answer them.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-09-2018 02:31:16Copy HTML

Wale refuses to explain why he thinks the contradictions cited are wrong. He simply denigrates the sources I quote; he can't explain why he denies them, just that because they are quotes, he won't answer them.


No, I refuse to answer a shotgun job where you just scatter a copy and paste job of numerous nonsesne and will only answer more direct and original words from you. One at a time.

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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-09-2018 03:39:35Copy HTML

Wale refuses to explain why he thinks the contradictions cited are wrong. He simply denigrates the sources I quote; he can't explain why he denies them, just that because they are quotes, he won't answer them.
 

Yes, Yobbo, that is absolutely true.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-09-2018 01:37:14Copy HTML

Wale refuses to explain why he thinks the contradictions cited are wrong. He simply denigrates the sources I quote; he can't explain why he denies them, just that because they are quotes, he won't answer them.
 

Yes, Yobbo, that is absolutely true.


I guess READING is NOT a strong suit of yours as I responded above!!

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #59
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:06-09-2018 05:48:19Copy HTML

It was nonsense and excuse making that only served to show the accuracy of Yobbo's assessment.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-09-2018 12:31:26Copy HTML

It was nonsense and excuse making that only served to show the accuracy of Yobbo's assessment.


You  cannot demonstrate that because you haven't the intellect and Yobbo's statements are mainly psychobabble.

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