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Yobbo
  • From:New_zealand

Date Posted:09-10-2016 03:03:16Copy HTML

Since he ignored my request on the Easter page....
....perhaps Tom
ás can explain why all these contradictions occur in the gospels and NT.
Just how can something be gospel true when it conflicts with another gospel truth?


Father Dan's Easter Quiz:

1. Who first came to the tomb on Sunday morning?
a. one woman (John 20:1)
b. two women (Matt. 28:1)
c. three women (Mark 16:1)
d. more than three women (Luke 23:55-56; 24:1,10)

2. She (they) came
a. while it was still dark (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)
b. after the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)

3. The woman (women) came to the tomb
a. to anoint the body of Jesus with spices (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1)
b. just to look at it (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)

4. The women had obtained the spices
a. on Friday before sunset (Luke 23:54-56; 24:1)
a. after sunset on Saturday (Mark 16:1)

5. The first visitor(s) was/were greeted by
a. an angel (Matt. 28:2-5)
b. a young man (Mark 16:5)
c. two men (Luke 24:4)
d. no one (John 20:1-2)

6. The greeter(s)
a. was sitting on the stone outside the tomb (Matt 28:2)
b. was sitting inside the tomb (Mark 16:5)
c. were standing inside the tomb (Luke 24:3-4)

7. After finding the tomb empty, the woman/women
a. ran to tell the disciples (Matt. 28:7-8; Mark 16:10; Luke 24:9; John 20:2)
b. ran away and said nothing to anyone (Mark 16:8)

8. The risen Jesus first appeared to
a. Mary Magdalene alone (John 20:14; Mark 16:9)
b. Cleopas and another disciple (Luke 24:13,15,18)
c. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (Matt. 28:1,9)
d. Cephas (Peter) alone (1 Cor. 15:4-5; Luke 24:34)

9. Jesus first appeared
a. somewhere between the tomb and Jerusalem (Matt. 28:8-9)
b. Just outside the tomb (John 20:11-14)
c. in Galilee - some 80 miles (130 Km) north of Jerusalem (Mark 16:6-7)
d. on the road to Emmaus - Miles (11 Km) west of Jerusalem (Luke 24:13-15)
e. we are not told where (Mark 16:9; 1 Cor. 15:4-5)

10. The disciples were to see Jesus first
a. in Galilee (Mark 16:7; Matt. 28:7,10,16)
b. in Jerusalem (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:33,36; John 20:19; Acts 1:4)

11. the disciples were told that they would meet the risen Jesus in Galilee
a. by the women, who had been told by an angel of the Lord, then by Jesus himself after the resurrection (Matt. 28:7-10; Mark 16:7)
b. by Jesus himself, before the crucifiction (Mark 26:32)

12. The risen Jesus
a. wanted to be touched (John 20:27)
b. did not want to be touched (John 20:17)
c. did not mind being touched (Matt. 28:9-10)

13. Jesus ascended to Heaven
a. the same day that he was resurrected (Mark 16:9,19; Luke 24:13,28-36,50-51)
b. forty days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
c. we are not told that he ascended to Heaven at all (Matt. 28:10, 16-20; John 21:25; the original Gospel of Mark ends at 16:8)

14. The disciples received the Holy Spirit
a. 50 days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
b. in the evening of the same day as the resurrection (John 20:19-22)

15. The risen Jesus
a. was recognized by those who saw him (Matt. 28:9; Mark 16:9-10)
b. was not always recognizable (Mark 16:12; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:14-15)

16. The risen Jesus
a. was physical (Matt. 28:9; Luke 24:41-43; John 20:27)
b. was not physical (Mark 16:9,12,14; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:19,26; 1 Cor. 15:5-8)

17. The risen Jesus was seen by the disciples
a. presumably only once (Matt. 28:16-17)
b. first by two of them, later by all eleven (Mark 16:12-14; Luke 24:13-15,33,36-51)
c. three times (John 20:19,26; 21:1,14)
d. many times (Acts 1:3)

18. When Jesus appeared to the disciples
a. there were eleven of them (Matt. 28:16-17; Luke 24:33,36)
b. twelve of them (1 Cor. 15:5)


Hey, when has religion ever let facts or figures get in the way of a good quote. If this quiz has in any way shaken your faith, simply open the Bible and pull out sentences at random that make you feel good or (completely out of context) reaffirm any belief you want to hold.

Modern-day Easter is derived from two ancient traditions: one Judeo-Christian and the other Pagan. Both Christians and Pagans have celebrated death and resurrection themes following the Spring Equinox for millennia. Most religious historians believe that many elements of the Christian observance of Easter were derived from earlier Pagan celebrations.

The equinox occurs each year on March 20, 21 or 22. Both Neopagans and Christians continue to celebration religious rituals in the present day. Wiccans and other Neopagans usually hold their celebrations on the day or eve of the equinox. Western Christians wait until the Sunday on or after the next full moon. The Eastern Orthodox churches follow the Julian Calendar, so that their celebration is generally many weeks after that of the Western churches.

The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similar "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [were] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:

Aphrodite from Cyprus
Astarte, from Phoenicia
Demeter, from Mycenae
Hathor from Egypt
Ishtar from Assyria
Kali, from India
Ostara, a Norse Goddess of fertility. Read More.

But WAIT! Various early church writers, such as Irenaeus (Bishop of Lyons; circa 120 to ?) Justin Martyr (Christian apologist; 100 to 165), Tertullian (Christian theologian; circa 160 to 220 +) concluded that the Pagan/Christian similarities were a Satanic attempt at "diabolical mimicry." Satan was said to have use "plagiarism by anticipation." That is, the Devil replicated the life experiences of Jesus, centuries before his birth. The reason was to confuse the public into thinking that Jesus was merely a copy of previous godmen.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #61
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:07-09-2018 07:08:57Copy HTML

And, your statements, wale, are just moronic babble.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #62
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-09-2018 12:31:21Copy HTML

It is clear wale cannot defend any contradictions in the bible....so the poor imbecile will make it all about you. This is just how fucking stupid some people are. He thinks he is debating, but he has not begun to even admit there are contradictions in the bible. Brain on auto-off.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #63
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-09-2018 03:03:45Copy HTML

It is clear wale cannot defend any contradictions in the bible....so the poor imbecile will make it all about you. This is just how fucking stupid some people are.    He thinks he is debating, but he has not begun to even admit there are contradictions in the bible.  Brain on auto-off.


When we are dealing with an insecure and inner conflicted individual, such as yourself, we HAVE to examine the source of the impertinence and incorrect conclusions on your part.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #64
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-09-2018 03:05:04Copy HTML

And, your statements, wale, are just moronic babble.


Not at all. Simply because YOU view them as such is insignificant  and has NO impact on reality.

Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #65
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:08-09-2018 07:33:27Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #66
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-09-2018 02:19:34Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 


I offered you a valid way of responding BUT either you can't read OR employ your OWN ways of avoidance and THIS is one.

Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #67
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-09-2018 05:33:33Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 


I offered you a valid way of responding BUT either you can't read OR employ your OWN ways of avoidance and THIS is one.


What did you offer?

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #68
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-09-2018 09:18:29Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 


I offered you a valid way of responding BUT either you can't read OR employ your OWN ways of avoidance and THIS is one.


What did you offer?


Read response #45

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #69
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:09-09-2018 10:17:52Copy HTML

RE: #45,
An avoidance and deflection offer nothing to the discussion.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #70
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 01:55:08Copy HTML

RE: #45,
An avoidance and deflection offer nothing to the discussion.


Your inverse thinking has you believing a direct response is deflection, as you view opposite of what normal people do.

Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #71
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 02:40:11Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 


I offered you a valid way of responding BUT either you can't read OR employ your OWN ways of avoidance and THIS is one.


What did you offer?


Read response #45


Re:Contradictions in the gospels

                   

                   

Date Posted:09-06-2018 11:48:25Copy HTML

                   

Reply to Yobbo

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.

When you stop pasting from OTHER sites at length and use your own words and thoughts, maybe we can show you the error of your ways Dobbo.

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 

I rather think that #45 was not a satisfactory answer.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #72
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 02:50:10Copy HTML

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 


I offered you a valid way of responding BUT either you can't read OR employ your OWN ways of avoidance and THIS is one.


What did you offer?


Read response #45


Re:Contradictions in the gospels

                   

                   

Date Posted:09-06-2018 11:48:25Copy HTML

                   

Reply to Yobbo

Instead of insulting thos who oppose you, try and rationalise some of the contradictions cited.

When you stop pasting from OTHER sites at length and use your own words and thoughts, maybe we can show you the error of your ways Dobbo.

Wale employs several ways of avoiding answering questions.  Mostly this involves various forms of insults. 

I rather think that #45 was not a satisfactory answer.


THIS is your way of trying to avoid coming up with your own words and thoughts.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #73
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 04:50:21Copy HTML

Yes wale, you responded to Yobbo "directly" all right.  You directly responded with a diversion, avoiding answering Yobbo's questions.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #74
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 05:23:05Copy HTML

Yes wale, you responded to Yobbo "directly" all right.  You directly responded with a diversion, avoiding answering Yobbo's questions.


Have you dropped defending skdoodle and NOW you service Yobbo? Let Dobbo handle his questions being answered. You should stick to getting it straight. LOL

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #75
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:10-09-2018 06:30:40Copy HTML

You're still frantically avoiding answering Yobbo's questions.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #76
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 01:29:43Copy HTML

You're still frantically avoiding answering Yobbo's questions.  LOL


Your boy toy hasn't posed one. LOL

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #77
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 03:35:42Copy HTML

Yobbo is not my "boy toy," wale.  Unlike a fair portion of you hypercritical, hypocritical, self-proclaimed Christians who seem to be quite indulgent in art of cheating on their wives/husbands/girfiends/boyfriends, I am faithful to my boyfriend and would never even consider cheating on him.

Yobbo has, in fact, asked you several questions.

A couple of lies, wale, aren't going to hide the fact that you are frantically avoiding answering those questions.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #78
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 04:38:28Copy HTML

Yobbo is not my "boy toy," wale.  Unlike a fair portion of you hypercritical, hypocritical, self-proclaimed Christians who seem to be quite indulgent in art of cheating on their wives/husbands/girfiends/boyfriends, I am faithful to my boyfriend and would never even consider cheating on him.

Yobbo has, in fact, asked you several questions.

A couple of lies, wale, aren't going to hide the fact that you are frantically avoiding answering those questions.


why don't you let Dobbo ask the questions? You having a boyfriend is a dysfunctional deviation fron the normal.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #79
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 04:56:04Copy HTML

  My posting replies to your posts, wale, is not stopping or interfering with Yobbo answering you.  You would know that if you actually had any sort of even casual acquintence with reality.
  As for my having a boyfriend, your opinion of that fact is ignorant and bigoted and worthy of scorn and rejection.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #80
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 05:28:41Copy HTML

  My posting replies to your posts, wale, is not stopping or interfering with Yobbo answering you.  You would know that if you actually had any sort of even casual acquintence with reality.
  As for my having a boyfriend, your opinion of that fact is ignorant and bigoted and worthy of scorn and rejection.


Not an opinion BUT a view shared across spectrums: historical, cultural, biological, scientific etc etc.

Being in stark clarity to your confused notions do not constitute bigotry.

Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #81
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 06:05:43Copy HTML

Where Wale writes silly diatribes I am not going to bother posting until he stops posting insults and addresses the subject of each thread.

The fact that Bogus is a homosexual has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.  And of course his sexuality has nothing to do with me.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #82
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:11-09-2018 06:06:27Copy HTML

Yobbo, that's not likely to happen.  Wale is completely and utterly blinded by his bigotry and hate of homosexuals and will continue his obsession with same, completely ignoring/avoiding actual topics and discussions.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #83
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 12:22:11Copy HTML

Where Wale writes silly diatribes I am not going to bother posting until he stops posting insults and addresses the subject of each thread.

The fact that Bogus is a homosexual has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.  And of course his sexuality has nothing to do with me.


Continuing to dodge won't get your questions answered, IF that is your goal, unless your REAL goal is just to post silly nonsense.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #84
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 12:46:00Copy HTML

Wale, still frantically dodging Yobbo's questions.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #85
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 07:13:47Copy HTML

Wale, still frantically dodging Yobbo's questions.  LOL


He hasn't asked any  but, of course, our dysfunction doesn't let you see that. LOL

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #86
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 08:07:26Copy HTML

He has asked you several question, wale.  Of course your dysfunctional view prevents you from seeing that.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #87
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 08:18:02Copy HTML

He has asked you several question, wale.  Of course your dysfunctional view prevents you from seeing that.  LOL


 You say that because YOU have the disorder. LOL

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #88
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 08:28:42Copy HTML

You're the one with the completely disordered view of reality, wale.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #89
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:12-09-2018 10:30:23Copy HTML

You're the one with the completely disordered view of reality, wale.


No, and reversinfg what i say doesn't make your statement equal or valid. Simply being in contradiction to your maladjusted constructions doesn't make your statements credible.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #90
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:14-09-2018 02:15:07Copy HTML

No, and reversinfg what i say doesn't make your statement equal or valid. Simply being in contradiction to your maladjusted constructions doesn't make your statements credible.


Yes, reversing what you say does make my statement not only equal, but superior to yours, and most valid. Simply being in contradiction to your malajusted constructions does make my statements valid and credible.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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