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Yobbo
  • From:New_zealand

Date Posted:09-10-2016 03:03:16Copy HTML

Since he ignored my request on the Easter page....
....perhaps Tom
ás can explain why all these contradictions occur in the gospels and NT.
Just how can something be gospel true when it conflicts with another gospel truth?


Father Dan's Easter Quiz:

1. Who first came to the tomb on Sunday morning?
a. one woman (John 20:1)
b. two women (Matt. 28:1)
c. three women (Mark 16:1)
d. more than three women (Luke 23:55-56; 24:1,10)

2. She (they) came
a. while it was still dark (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)
b. after the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)

3. The woman (women) came to the tomb
a. to anoint the body of Jesus with spices (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1)
b. just to look at it (Matt. 28:1; John 20:1)

4. The women had obtained the spices
a. on Friday before sunset (Luke 23:54-56; 24:1)
a. after sunset on Saturday (Mark 16:1)

5. The first visitor(s) was/were greeted by
a. an angel (Matt. 28:2-5)
b. a young man (Mark 16:5)
c. two men (Luke 24:4)
d. no one (John 20:1-2)

6. The greeter(s)
a. was sitting on the stone outside the tomb (Matt 28:2)
b. was sitting inside the tomb (Mark 16:5)
c. were standing inside the tomb (Luke 24:3-4)

7. After finding the tomb empty, the woman/women
a. ran to tell the disciples (Matt. 28:7-8; Mark 16:10; Luke 24:9; John 20:2)
b. ran away and said nothing to anyone (Mark 16:8)

8. The risen Jesus first appeared to
a. Mary Magdalene alone (John 20:14; Mark 16:9)
b. Cleopas and another disciple (Luke 24:13,15,18)
c. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (Matt. 28:1,9)
d. Cephas (Peter) alone (1 Cor. 15:4-5; Luke 24:34)

9. Jesus first appeared
a. somewhere between the tomb and Jerusalem (Matt. 28:8-9)
b. Just outside the tomb (John 20:11-14)
c. in Galilee - some 80 miles (130 Km) north of Jerusalem (Mark 16:6-7)
d. on the road to Emmaus - Miles (11 Km) west of Jerusalem (Luke 24:13-15)
e. we are not told where (Mark 16:9; 1 Cor. 15:4-5)

10. The disciples were to see Jesus first
a. in Galilee (Mark 16:7; Matt. 28:7,10,16)
b. in Jerusalem (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:33,36; John 20:19; Acts 1:4)

11. the disciples were told that they would meet the risen Jesus in Galilee
a. by the women, who had been told by an angel of the Lord, then by Jesus himself after the resurrection (Matt. 28:7-10; Mark 16:7)
b. by Jesus himself, before the crucifiction (Mark 26:32)

12. The risen Jesus
a. wanted to be touched (John 20:27)
b. did not want to be touched (John 20:17)
c. did not mind being touched (Matt. 28:9-10)

13. Jesus ascended to Heaven
a. the same day that he was resurrected (Mark 16:9,19; Luke 24:13,28-36,50-51)
b. forty days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
c. we are not told that he ascended to Heaven at all (Matt. 28:10, 16-20; John 21:25; the original Gospel of Mark ends at 16:8)

14. The disciples received the Holy Spirit
a. 50 days after the resurrection (Acts 1:3,9)
b. in the evening of the same day as the resurrection (John 20:19-22)

15. The risen Jesus
a. was recognized by those who saw him (Matt. 28:9; Mark 16:9-10)
b. was not always recognizable (Mark 16:12; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:14-15)

16. The risen Jesus
a. was physical (Matt. 28:9; Luke 24:41-43; John 20:27)
b. was not physical (Mark 16:9,12,14; Luke 24:15-16,31,36-37; John 20:19,26; 1 Cor. 15:5-8)

17. The risen Jesus was seen by the disciples
a. presumably only once (Matt. 28:16-17)
b. first by two of them, later by all eleven (Mark 16:12-14; Luke 24:13-15,33,36-51)
c. three times (John 20:19,26; 21:1,14)
d. many times (Acts 1:3)

18. When Jesus appeared to the disciples
a. there were eleven of them (Matt. 28:16-17; Luke 24:33,36)
b. twelve of them (1 Cor. 15:5)


Hey, when has religion ever let facts or figures get in the way of a good quote. If this quiz has in any way shaken your faith, simply open the Bible and pull out sentences at random that make you feel good or (completely out of context) reaffirm any belief you want to hold.

Modern-day Easter is derived from two ancient traditions: one Judeo-Christian and the other Pagan. Both Christians and Pagans have celebrated death and resurrection themes following the Spring Equinox for millennia. Most religious historians believe that many elements of the Christian observance of Easter were derived from earlier Pagan celebrations.

The equinox occurs each year on March 20, 21 or 22. Both Neopagans and Christians continue to celebration religious rituals in the present day. Wiccans and other Neopagans usually hold their celebrations on the day or eve of the equinox. Western Christians wait until the Sunday on or after the next full moon. The Eastern Orthodox churches follow the Julian Calendar, so that their celebration is generally many weeks after that of the Western churches.

The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similar "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [were] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:

Aphrodite from Cyprus
Astarte, from Phoenicia
Demeter, from Mycenae
Hathor from Egypt
Ishtar from Assyria
Kali, from India
Ostara, a Norse Goddess of fertility. Read More.

But WAIT! Various early church writers, such as Irenaeus (Bishop of Lyons; circa 120 to ?) Justin Martyr (Christian apologist; 100 to 165), Tertullian (Christian theologian; circa 160 to 220 +) concluded that the Pagan/Christian similarities were a Satanic attempt at "diabolical mimicry." Satan was said to have use "plagiarism by anticipation." That is, the Devil replicated the life experiences of Jesus, centuries before his birth. The reason was to confuse the public into thinking that Jesus was merely a copy of previous godmen.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #181
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:18-10-2018 08:51:28Copy HTML

your response to EVERYONE who disagrees with you! " I am a genius and if you don't accept what I say, fuck you"-SKDUMMY _______________________ That is not the choice I gave you Wale. The choice I gave you is to step up and present evidence that the science I presented is false. You choose to call me names and not debate instead. You are a mentally ill child.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #182
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:18-10-2018 09:05:18Copy HTML

your response to EVERYONE who disagrees with you! " I am a genius and if you don't accept what I say, fuck you"-SKDUMMY

That is not the choice I gave you Wale.  The choice I gave you is to step up and present evidence that the science I presented is false.  You choose to call me names and not debate instead.  You are a mentally ill child.


" What I SAY goes and what I give you as a choice is the choice, not what YOU or anyone else wants because I, the great and mighty SKDUMMY have spioken!"- SKDUMMY

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #183
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:18-10-2018 09:19:50Copy HTML

I don't know why you lie so often. I thought christians weren't supposed to lie. "Agree or be labelled a dummy" is not the choice I gave you Wale. That is actually what YOU are doing. The choice I gave is to present evidence and debate. You choose to simply say I am wrong and stupid ("agree or you are dummy"). It is YOU who are using the approach of "you are stupid and wrong because you don't agree with me" not me. I present data and ask you to refute it. We haven't gotten that far in any debate yet. You have never once presented any counter evidence to anything. I am trying to get you to debate the science. You are a mentally ill child.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #184
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:19-10-2018 12:23:12Copy HTML

I don't know why you lie so often.  I thought christians weren't supposed to lie. "Agree or be labelled a dummy" is not the choice I gave you Wale.  That is actually what YOU are doing.   The choice I gave is to present evidence and debate.  You choose to simply say I am wrong and stupid ("agree or you are dummy"). It is YOU who are using the approach of "you are stupid and wrong because you don't agree with me"  not me.  I present data and ask you to refute it.  We haven't gotten that far in any debate yet.  You have never once presented any counter evidence to anything. I am trying to get you to debate the science.   You are a mentally ill child.


I am NOT lying. Quote accurately describes you.

"what I give you as a choice is the choice, not what YOU or anyone else wants because I, the great and mighty SKDUMMY have spioken!"- SKDUMMY

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #185
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:19-10-2018 01:51:59Copy HTML

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skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #186
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:19-10-2018 04:52:29Copy HTML

I am NOT lying. Quote accurately describes you. "what I give you as a choice is the choice, not what YOU or anyone else wants because I, the great and mighty SKDUMMY have spioken!"- SKDUMMY ___ Wale is lying and now also making zero sense. Your choice would be to tell me where any of the studies I have posted on the subjects of evolution, homosexuality or flood geology are wrong. Post some studies that support your position. Make your case. If I am wrong, the data and evidence of your argument will bear that out. You have yet to enter the ring and attempt to discuss a single issue with evidence. That is how adults do it. When you grow up you may realize this.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #187
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:20-10-2018 02:41:43Copy HTML

Given that he has entered not a word in sensible argument over the past few weeks.......

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #188
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:20-10-2018 03:46:36Copy HTML

Given that he has entered not a word in sensible argument over the past few weeks.......


Piggybacking someone else again Dobbo? We are not surprised.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #189
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:20-10-2018 05:46:07Copy HTML

Given that he has entered not a word in sensible argument over the past few weeks....... ______ Piggybacking someone else again Dobbo? We are not surprised. ___ Ta-da. You may rest your case Yobbo. He only has time for his homoerotic fantasy of the moment.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #190
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:22-10-2018 04:13:01Copy HTML

Given that he has entered not a word in sensible argument over the past few weeks.......

Piggybacking someone else again Dobbo? We are not surprised.

Ta-da.   You may rest your case Yobbo.   He only has time for his homoerotic fantasy of the moment.


"Because I, the great and mighty SKDUMM, the SELF proclaimed genius in my mind, have spioken!"- SKDUMMY

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #191
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:22-10-2018 06:24:11Copy HTML

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Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #192
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:22-10-2018 06:38:01Copy HTML

Still no hint of a sensible reply from Wanker.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #193
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 01:50:19Copy HTML

Wale us waaaay too busy having homoerotic fantasies about us.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #194
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 02:21:44Copy HTML

Still no hint of a sensible reply from Wanker.


STILL NO sembalance of intelligence or common sense on YOUR part Dobbo.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #195
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 02:23:18Copy HTML

Wale us waaaay too busy having homoerotic fantasies about us.


Well everytime you are addressed, BOGUSPUMPED pops up for air to leave his assinine replies and everytime BOGUSPUMPED is addressed, it seems YOU pop up for air to reply for him.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #196
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 04:37:07Copy HTML

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wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #197
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 05:03:20Copy HTML

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Well everytime SKDUMMY is addressed, BOGUSPUMPED pops up for air to leave his assinine replies


skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #198
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:23-10-2018 06:22:38Copy HTML

Well everytime you are addressed, BOGUSPUMPED pops up for air to leave his assinine replies and everytime BOGUSPUMPED is addressed, it seems YOU pop up for air to reply for him. ___ Hey genius objective thinker dude....there are only three fucking people in this thread. Imagine Bogus actually thinking about this.......every time I pop up, you pop up, then Bogus pops up, then I pop up again, then skwanderer...then bogus....something is going on here. Did you figure that shit out all by yourself Wale?
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #199
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:24-10-2018 12:25:56Copy HTML

Well everytime you are addressed, BOGUSPUMPED pops up for air to leave his assinine replies and everytime BOGUSPUMPED is addressed, it seems YOU pop up for air to reply for him.

Hey genius objective thinker dude....there are only three fucking people in this thread. Imagine Bogus actually thinking about this.......every time I pop up, you pop up, then Bogus pops up, then I pop up again, then skwanderer...then bogus....something is going on here.   Did you figure that shit out all by yourself Wale?


I KNOW you are MENTALLY CHALLENGED ( to say the least) and just plain STUPID BUT others pop in to view these threads, even if they DON"T comment, you moron!

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #200
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:24-10-2018 12:59:24Copy HTML

I KNOW you are MENTALLY CHALLENGED ( to say the least) and just plain STUPID BUT others pop in to view these threads, even if they DON"T comment, you moron! ______ lolololol...you mean the others that agree you are sick with homoerotic fantasies???   Do you need me to show what others write about you again??   

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #201
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:24-10-2018 03:58:52Copy HTML

I KNOW you are MENTALLY CHALLENGED ( to say the least) and just plain STUPID BUT others pop in to view these threads, even if they DON"T comment, you moron! ______ lolololol...you mean the others that agree you are sick with homoerotic fantasies???   Do you need me to show what others write about you again??   


" Others" meaning Dobbo,BOGUSPUMPED and the LOONEY leftists.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #202
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:25-10-2018 01:21:00Copy HTML

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skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #203
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 01:16:24Copy HTML

" Others" meaning Dobbo,BOGUSPUMPED and the LOONEY leftists. _--- and Jackie and Windies and Anj (conservative) and many others Captain Denial. You are mentally unwell.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #204
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 02:11:09Copy HTML

" Others" meaning Dobbo,BOGUSPUMPED and the LOONEY leftists

and Jackie and Windies and Anj (conservative) and many others Captain Denial. You are mentally unwell.


JACKIE is a lefty loon bigtime. Haven't had interaction with windies and Anj. YOU contionue to be an idiot, especially if you use Jackie ( another disturbed individual) as some sort of measiure you idiot SKDUMMY! BOGUSPUMPED is as disturbed as YOU are, maybe more so. Dobbo adopts leftist think so Dobbo begins behind the eight ball as well.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #205
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 03:10:27Copy HTML

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Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #206
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 04:15:52Copy HTML

I don't know why I should respond to Wale's unpleasant posts but I feel he ought to know that I am a member of the New Zealand National party. The leftish party here is called Labour while we are the rightish one, so calling me left wing is plumb wrong.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #207
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Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 04:29:29Copy HTML

I don't know why I should respond to Wale's unpleasant posts but I feel he ought to know that I am a member of the New Zealand National party. The leftish party here is called Labour while we are the rightish one, so calling me left wing is plumb wrong.


Your positions and responses identify you as leftist.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #208
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 05:16:44Copy HTML

Haven't had interaction with windies and Anj. ___ I never asked you if you had any interaction. They pointed out how disturbed you are with your homoerotic fantasies....that is all. There are likely others because you are one sick troll.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #209
  • From:USA

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 05:24:10Copy HTML

If you are a "leftist", pointing out Wale's obvious homosexual obsession or his childish trolling only means you are a lying looney...forget the fact that his homosexual obsession troll posts are written down on hundreds of pages across FSA for everyone to see....all the while calling anyone who points this out to be mentally ill. He has to deny that conservatives like Anj called him creepy because that doesn't fit his lame excuses for his mental illness.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #210
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Contradictions in the gospels

Date Posted:26-10-2018 05:33:25Copy HTML

I don't know why I should respond to Wale's unpleasant posts but I feel he ought to know that I am a member of the New Zealand National party. The leftish party here is called Labour while we are the rightish one, so calling me left wing is plumb wrong.


Your positions and responses identify you as leftist.


No, my position is well balanced.  I am prepared to listen to all opinions, reflect upon them and come to an opinion of my own.  To start from a bigotted viewpoint and not consider other perspectives is simply intolerant dogmatism. That is how you Wale, conduct your replies - avoiding debate and contemplation.

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