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bones1776
  • From:USA

Date Posted:27-02-2018 10:49:06

Here is how Creationists argue their Fairy Tales.


1.  Start a thread with a link to a creationist story that has been disproven half a century ago.

2. Provide no scientific evidence for anything.

3.  When others provide the incontrovertible evidence against it.....ignore them.

4.  When others provide the incontrovertible evidence for evolution.....ignore them.

5. When others provide the incontrovertible evidence for evolution....attack them for something unrelated.

6.  After days or weeks of this, take a short break.

7.  Start over at #1.

Live it or live with it.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:USA

Re:Creationists insist it is science, yet post in the religious forum

Date Posted:05-04-2018 08:37:38

 Scientifically speaking, it is impossible NOT to believe in a creator of ALL existence, or God.
Existence in it's entirety didn't come about coincidentally or by happenstance.
Given the precision and order in EVERYTHING from the smallest cell and atom to the galaxies and beyond, it is
self evident that the entire universe has been planned out , as everything can't have just fallen into place.
Also , as far as we know scientifically, it is impossible for something to have been created out of nothing,
AND scientists will tell you that there is nothing in this existence that just existed with NO beginning and no end.
Therefore, some entity or being, above and outside that which has been created must have been behind the creation of ALL in existence.
To deny the REAL aspect of a creator of ALL of existence IS to deny reality.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:USA

Re:Creationists insist it is science, yet post in the religious forum

Date Posted:05-04-2018 08:46:11

 Scientifically speaking, it is impossible NOT to believe in a creator of ALL existence, or God.

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 No, there is nothing scientifically speaking about it.   You haveno idea how existence came to be, or whether matter and space has always been here.  Humans cant comprehend a limitless time or infinity (and much else).  You are using the God of the Gaps argument.  You don't understand how it all could be, so there must be a god.

There is not precision or order in everything.  There are flaws in everything.  Given that there must be an outcome in the passing of time, it is not miraculous that we are seeing the current outcome in this moment in time.

I am a scientist....a pretty well known scientists.  And scientists do not support what you are saying about them.

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Also , as far as we know scientifically, it is impossible for something to have been created out of nothing,

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Well yes and no.  But the first point is...how do you know anything was created?  Matter may have always been here.  Secondly, theoretical physicists have conjured particles from nothing in a vacuum.

Most of what you say is total nonsense. 



"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:USA

Re:Creationists insist it is science, yet post in the religious forum

Date Posted:05-04-2018 08:47:07

 Plus...welcome to the board.  You seem new.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:USA

Re:Creationists insist it is science, yet post in the religious forum

Date Posted:05-04-2018 10:40:10

Reply to skwanderer

 Scientifically speaking, it is impossible NOT to believe in a creator of ALL existence, or God.

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 No, there is nothing scientifically speaking about it.   You haveno idea how existence came to be, or whether matter and space has always been here.  Humans cant comprehend a limitless time or infinity (and much else).  You are using the God of the Gaps argument.  You don't understand how it all could be, so there must be a god.

There is not precision or order in everything.  There are flaws in everything.  Given that there must be an outcome in the passing of time, it is not miraculous that we are seeing the current outcome in this moment in time.

I am a scientist....a pretty well known scientists.  And scientists do not support what you are saying about them.

____

Also , as far as we know scientifically, it is impossible for something to have been created out of nothing,

____

Well yes and no.  But the first point is...how do you know anything was created?  Matter may have always been here.  Secondly, theoretical physicists have conjured particles from nothing in a vacuum.

Most of what you say is total nonsense. 




Not at all to everything you said.

The universe cannot be self-caused because nothing can create itself, because that would mean that it existed before it came into existence, which is a logical
absurdity.
In addition, Einstein's general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space.
So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. ALL EXISTENCE was CREATED, as even science has put time frames on all they observe.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #5
  • From:USA

Re:Creationists insist it is science, yet post in the religious forum

Date Posted:05-04-2018 10:41:08

Reply to skwanderer

 Plus...welcome to the board.  You seem new.

I am new to the board. Thank you. I also post on the First Amendment Room.
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