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Nickel
  • From:USA

Date Posted:08-10-2018 11:46:24Copy HTML

For the intransigent Independent, or lowercase libertarian, good luck to you. You’re already politically homeless, unable to vote your way to middle ground and compromise, to that blessed place where civil rights apply to all, the war on drugs is over, and the government has nothing to do with your health care.



From:


http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/08/im-fed-christians-pretending-god-sanctions-politics/



Facebook family and friends fill their walls with politics sanctioned by their God’s will, plan, whatever.....the scroll feature saves me.


Is  it a passing breeze or a storm that will forever and always change our lives?


What goes around, comes around.
govols Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 12:08:13Copy HTML

Thanks. Good points in the link, and pretty well composed.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 12:24:39Copy HTML

The entire article is the expression of a woman who doesn't understand the topic she wants to expound on and has a long way to go in her understanding!

alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 12:36:14Copy HTML

It's been pretty damned frustrating and there is no sign of respite anywhere on the horizon.


In the end, the only thing to do is hunker down and try to keep our own small spheres of influence safe and sane.  I and a small number of my fellow CO's and close friends intend to 'take over' a small town after we retire and there we will make our stand against the madness of the postmodern neomarxist types and their siblings on the far right.


Something like the FreeState folks are attempting to do in New Hampshire.


Just look at these people...

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:Norway

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 01:48:36Copy HTML

The entire article is the expression of a woman who doesn't understand the topic she wants to expound on and has a long way to go in her understanding!


OK, I'll bite.........explain yourself, wales. Give me some of your understanding so that I might be informed. 

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
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  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 07:29:36Copy HTML

OK, I'll bite.........explain yourself, wales. Give me some of your understanding so that I might be informed. ___ From Wale there will be no answer forthcoming about what the "woman" doesn't understand. You just jumped into a rabbit hole with no responses forthcoming other than attacking you for "humping someone's knob", "needing anal insertion" or some other such infantile nonsense.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
govols Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 08:38:28Copy HTML

I've been thinking about this post and the small community I live in, and the small Baptist Church I've visited only a couple of time. I haven't talked politics with any of my neighbors since I moved here a few years ago. I'm content to hear target practice in backyards in every direction, near and distant, most weekends. 

 

The small church my wife and I have attended a few times is scripture-centric. I've had no impression of politics. Now, it wasn’t election time, either. Maybe I’ll invite her again this month as an experiment. We’ve not attended any of the fellowship opportunities, whatever those might be, so maybe it comes up in those settings. They have a practice I’ve never encountered before, though. A couple of praise type songs are provided by a member volunteer or two, the preacher opens service with a prayer, and then he asks the congregation to take a few minutes to “welcome your neighbors to worship.” The more extroverted among them spend a few minutes glad handing their victims, a few friends redress and finish up the conversation interrupted by the singing a few minutes earlier.

 

The first sermon I attended he was speaking on Malachi. His presentation was about how Malachi was telling the Jews “You’re doing it wrong. You’re not trusting right, nor loving heartfully, nor sacrificing adequately…” My take away was, given the next book is Matthew, “And Jesus said, ‘Hold my wine,” and watch this.” I don't know where the preacher was going because I didn't attend for a while after that, but my mind tracked directly from the presentation of "you're doing it wrong" to "So I will provide an example."


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  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:09-10-2018 11:20:41Copy HTML

 

It's been pretty damned frustrating and there is no sign of respite anywhere on the horizon.


In the end, the only thing to do is hunker down and try to keep our own small spheres of influence safe and sane.  I and a small number of my fellow CO's and close friends intend to 'take over' a small town after we retire and there we will make our stand against the madness of the postmodern neomarxist types and their siblings on the far right.


Something like the FreeState folks are attempting to do in New Hampshire.


Just look at these people...

If Alaska wasn't so dang cold this retired Missouri CO wouldn't mind joining y'all....

alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 12:08:31Copy HTML

I'm aiming at a place in Washington state... it's nice there.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #9
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 11:56:32Copy HTML

The entire article is the expression of a woman who doesn't understand the topic she wants to expound on and has a long way to go in her understanding!


OK, I'll bite.........explain yourself, wales. Give me some of your understanding so that I might be informed. 


Firstly, she reveals she hasn't really delved into the topic of Christianity, using what has been TOLD to her as being saubstantive for the sctual body and thought of Christianity, as you haven't Sleazyrider!

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 11:57:52Copy HTML

I've been thinking about this post and the small community I live in, and the small Baptist Church I've visited only a couple of time. I haven't talked politics with any of my neighbors since I moved here a few years ago. I'm content to hear target practice in backyards in every direction, near and distant, most weekends. 

 

The small church my wife and I have attended a few times is scripture-centric. I've had no impression of politics. Now, it wasn’t election time, either. Maybe I’ll invite her again this month as an experiment. We’ve not attended any of the fellowship opportunities, whatever those might be, so maybe it comes up in those settings. They have a practice I’ve never encountered before, though. A couple of praise type songs are provided by a member volunteer or two, the preacher opens service with a prayer, and then he asks the congregation to take a few minutes to “welcome your neighbors to worship.” The more extroverted among them spend a few minutes glad handing their victims, a few friends redress and finish up the conversation interrupted by the singing a few minutes earlier.

 

The first sermon I attended he was speaking on Malachi. His presentation was about how Malachi was telling the Jews “You’re doing it wrong. You’re not trusting right, nor loving heartfully, nor sacrificing adequately…” My take away was, given the next book is Matthew, “And Jesus said, ‘Hold my wine,” and watch this.” I don't know where the preacher was going because I didn't attend for a while after that, but my mind tracked directly from the presentation of "you're doing it wrong" to "So I will provide an example."



Your point is?

VolgaHawk Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #11
  • From:Italy

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 12:51:33Copy HTML

My religion, such as it is, and my politics - the “intransigent independent” of which the author speaks - operate totally independent of each other.  I am not certain my backsliding Cathocism is consistent with any political though.  Certainly not with my fircal conservatism and social liberalism.

Drink wine. This is life eternal. This is all that youth will give you. It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends. Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.” ,From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
govols Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #12
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 01:24:08Copy HTML

Maybe smaller churches are less likely to be political.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #13
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 02:33:16Copy HTML

Drink wine. This is life eternal. This is all that youth will give you. It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends. Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.”   From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam


Wow.  So... live an empty and meaningless life?  No friends, no family, no purpose greater than masturbation?


No thanks.



Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #14
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 02:47:04Copy HTML

Drink wine. This is life eternal.
This is all that youth will give you.
It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends.
Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.”   From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam


Wow.  So... live an empty and meaningless life?  No friends, no family, no purpose greater than masturbation?


No thanks.



Wow.  So, that is honestly what you gleaned from that quote?

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #15
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 03:15:01Copy HTML

Yup.


Empty, meaningless, uselessness... what a goal.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
VolgaHawk Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #16
  • From:Italy

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 03:29:16Copy HTML

A hint, Alaska.  The passage from the Rubaiyat is metaphorical.

Drink wine. This is life eternal. This is all that youth will give you. It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends. Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.” ,From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 03:32:35Copy HTML

I know.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #18
  • From:Norway

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 05:26:18Copy HTML

Drink wine. This is life eternal.
This is all that youth will give you.
It is the season for wine, roses and drunken friends.
Be happy for this moment. This moment is your life.”   From the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam


Wow.  So... live an empty and meaningless life?  No friends, no family, no purpose greater than masturbation?


No thanks.



Wow.  So, that is honestly what you gleaned from that quote?



Voila! And there you have it. Clueless! 

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #19
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 06:26:53Copy HTML

Ah, so these two wish to insinuate, not being brave enough to state outright, that living life as nihistically as possible is superior to adopting purpose and responsibility. 


If they represent leftists in general, then that attitude does much to explain the daft shenanigans constantly displayed by the postmodern neomarxist crowd.


Having purpose, voluntarily assuming responsibility does not preclude enjoyment of the joys of the world.  Quite the contrary... it enhances them.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #20
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 06:58:54Copy HTML

Ah, so these two wish to insinuate, not being brave enough to state outright, that living life as nihistically as possible is superior to adopting purpose and responsibility.


Two?  It seems that there are three that think your interpretation of the quote is, to put it politely, quite far off the mark.

Speaking for myself, I "insinuated" no such thing, nor have I thought any such thing.

I guess when one cannot argue with what was actually said, one must pull some cockamamie, utterly bullshit inferrence from betwixt their ass cheeks to have an arguement with.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #21
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 07:12:12Copy HTML

Then perhaps you should make yourself clear.  You are capable of coherant speech, are you not?  Because thus far all you've managed to do is drop in with, essentially, 'yer a poopyhead'.


So if the passage isn't singing the joys of nihilism, do grow a fucking spine and give us your interpretation.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
govols Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #22
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 09:01:11Copy HTML

Only in youth does it seem that we will live forever. A Western version might be, "Don't live a life of 'wish I hads' or 'One day I wills.' The time to live is now; this moment right here, the one you're in right now, always and eternally. Live it right now while you still have it." 

 

Ak, NOW is where meaning exists. Right now is the only time that you get to BE, and sometimes, as often as possible, you need to spend it enjoying the fruits of yesterday. Yes, indeed, we toil in anticipation that tomorrow will suck if we don't prepare it today for not sucking, but the wine skin has been with us for thousands of years and it's possible to enjoy even splitting wood if one does it with wine and with the friends with whom you'll enjoy the fire later. Hell, even a funeral is okay if you share it with people who also loved the deceased...or who agree he was a douchebag. 

 

It's really only possible to avoid nihilism if one is rooted firmly in a meaningful present. Wine and friends help. 


wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #23
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 09:02:26Copy HTML

Only in youth does it seem that we will live forever. A Western version might be, "Don't live a life of 'wish I hads' or 'One day I wills.' The time to live is now; this moment right here, the one you're in right now, always and eternally. Live it right now while you still have it." 

 

Ak, NOW is where meaning exists. Right now is the only time that you get to BE, and sometimes, as often as possible, you need to spend it enjoying the fruits of yesterday. Yes, indeed, we toil in anticipation that tomorrow will suck if we don't prepare it today for not sucking, but the wine skin has been with us for thousands of years and it's possible to enjoy even splitting wood if one does it with wine and with the friends with whom you'll enjoy the fire later. Hell, even a funeral is okay if you share it with people who also loved the deceased...or who agree he was a douchebag. 

 

It's really only possible to avoid nihilism if one is rooted firmly in a meaningful present. Wine and friends help. 



Psychobabble!

govols Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #24
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 09:15:15Copy HTML

Yep. 100%. You're right. Not at all grounded in experience. 

alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #25
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:10-10-2018 11:04:44Copy HTML

It's really only possible to avoid nihilism if one is rooted firmly in a meaningful present. Wine and friends help.


Exactly.  Real happiness and real fulfillment come from living a meaningful life and that doesn't come from a job, it come from family and community... from being useful as opposed to useless.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #26
  • From:USA

Re:Fed up with politics sanctioned by God

Date Posted:11-10-2018 11:10:32Copy HTML

God is within: sufficient to stand and free to fall. God’s will is the sum of all your choices. Now is the only time for changing your future, your past cannot be altered. I enjoy a glass of wine, most meals are better with wine; always want a second, but the second glass never tastes as good as the first. So, finally I no longer have the not so healthy for you second glass. It helps the politics go down. Beer takes away the aches and pains of mowing. Wine doesn’t help that at all. Lets see, the topic is.....not wine or beer...ah yes, politics sanctioned by God. Shame on people who use Him. I thank Him several times a day without much ceremony and rarely ask for anything because an educated life is pretty good and I am a college educated woman. Plus, I joined the Women Marines fresh out of high school, alife altering experience if ever there was one. Okay, I am off on another tangent.....
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