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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:30-04-2018 12:56:24Copy HTML

Below is a good piece on Acts 2:42, on what makes for a health church.  In fact, the church growth was explosive in the book of Acts.

04/09/18  Grace Mail

"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study, fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.

One of our sister churches that we actually helped to start are meeting in a school, where they have to set up and tear down every Sunday morning. They have to pack everything in a trailer. As I was thinking about that, I was thinking of how many things they don't have. You think, "Doesn't a church have to have certain kinds of buildings?" "Don't they have to have certain types of furnishings?" "Don't you need a cross somewhere?" "Don't you need a steeple someplace?" "Don't you need a gymnasium and a golf course, and a pool?"

I think of what the early church didn't have and it was so successful! The early church didn't have any of that stuff. It didn't even have the stuff we have. And yet, people were getting saved, and it was more successful in the first century than the church has ever been since.

The Gospel went out into the entire world, and all they had was Bible study, fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.

So, I think that everything that a church does ought to center around one of those four things. We ought to be able to trace everything we do at Calvary back to the fact that it's either Bible study, it's a fellowship opportunity, it's the breaking of bread (which I believe speaks of the Lord's Supper prominent in services and available to people), and/or prayer. Everything should come back to that. Those are the priorities. If you can get to other things; they're not wrong, but these are the things a church ought to focus on.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:25-06-2018 05:14:25Copy HTML

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So says an absurd person who is willfully ignorant on many subjects and takes far to seriously what he thinks he knows.

Since you are an idiot, your observation is empty and pointless.

That is an empty and pointless observation posted by an absurd, willfully ignorant person.

Before we go around in circles because you are absurd and stupid, understand that you are like the pig who doesn't understand he is dirty. You see through the prism of your inversion which makes EVERYTHING inverted in your interpretation of reality.

Stupidly says the absurd, willfully ignorant one with virtually zero grasp of reality.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:25-06-2018 11:24:27Copy HTML


"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

NOTICE THE FOUR aspects IN the passage . Tomaplaz THEN CHANGES the wording, based on his own misconception and has STAYED with that error (UNDERLINED below) of his own making

 In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study (Tomaplaz' OWN wording , not the Bible), fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.


See, that should then make this easy.  Of course, the OP devotional is not mine, so not sure why you keep getting confused on that.


But show that the author did not mean, by 'Bible Study' - 'Bible' or 'apostles' teaching' (which, as we have seen, including scripture then available).

I agree, I think this is where the dispute lies - not in scripture, but how each person is using that expression.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:26-06-2018 11:42:49Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz


"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

NOTICE THE FOUR aspects IN the passage . Tomaplaz THEN CHANGES the wording, based on his own misconception and has STAYED with that error (UNDERLINED below) of his own making

 In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study (Tomaplaz' OWN wording , not the Bible), fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.


See, that should then make this easy.  Of course, the OP devotional is not mine, so not sure why you keep getting confused on that.


But show that the author did not mean, by 'Bible Study' - 'Bible' or 'apostles' teaching' (which, as we have seen, including scripture then available).

I agree, I think this is where the dispute lies - not in scripture, but how each person is using that expression.


NO and WRONG. It is up to YOU to show that YOUR substitution is the same when they are NOT interchangeable, the Apostle's taught by PREACHING, empowered by the Spirit and not by YOUR willful distortion.

It is NOT within YOUR purview to make substitutions without proper authority, which you do NOT have AND to make ACCURATE ones, which in this case it is not. YOU remain in error and DISHONEST. 

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:26-06-2018 11:44:22Copy HTML

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Reply to Bogus0Pomp

So says an absurd person who is willfully ignorant on many subjects and takes far to seriously what he thinks he knows.

Since you are an idiot, your observation is empty and pointless.

That is an empty and pointless observation posted by an absurd, willfully ignorant person.

Before we go around in circles because you are absurd and stupid, understand that you are like the pig who doesn't understand he is dirty. You see through the prism of your inversion which makes EVERYTHING inverted in your interpretation of reality.

Stupidly says the absurd, willfully ignorant one with virtually zero grasp of reality.


Yes you do and you base that on your maladjusted views based on YOUR inverted existence.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:26-06-2018 01:22:31Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:26-06-2018 01:41:50Copy HTML

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"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

NOTICE THE FOUR aspects IN the passage . Tomaplaz THEN CHANGES the wording, based on his own misconception and has STAYED with that error (UNDERLINED below) of his own making

 In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study (Tomaplaz' OWN wording , not the Bible), fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.


See, that should then make this easy.  Of course, the OP devotional is not mine, so not sure why you keep getting confused on that.


But show that the author did not mean, by 'Bible Study' - 'Bible' or 'apostles' teaching' (which, as we have seen, including scripture then available).

I agree, I think this is where the dispute lies - not in scripture, but how each person is using that expression.


NO and WRONG. It is up to YOU to show that YOUR substitution is the same when they are NOT interchangeable, the Apostle's taught by PREACHING, empowered by the Spirit and not by YOUR willful distortion.

It is NOT within YOUR purview to make substitutions without proper authority, which you do NOT have AND to make ACCURATE ones, which in this case it is not. YOU remain in error and DISHONEST. 


No, since this is a matter of the English language, it is up to you.   And as you have tendency to misread things, as evidence by this last reply, you have a bit of an uphill climb.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:05:13Copy HTML

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Reply to wale63

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"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

NOTICE THE FOUR aspects IN the passage . Tomaplaz THEN CHANGES the wording, based on his own misconception and has STAYED with that error (UNDERLINED below) of his own making

 In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study (Tomaplaz' OWN wording , not the Bible), fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.


See, that should then make this easy.  Of course, the OP devotional is not mine, so not sure why you keep getting confused on that.


But show that the author did not mean, by 'Bible Study' - 'Bible' or 'apostles' teaching' (which, as we have seen, including scripture then available).

I agree, I think this is where the dispute lies - not in scripture, but how each person is using that expression.


NO and WRONG. It is up to YOU to show that YOUR substitution is the same when they are NOT interchangeable, the Apostle's taught by PREACHING, empowered by the Spirit and not by YOUR willful distortion.

It is NOT within YOUR purview to make substitutions without proper authority, which you do NOT have AND to make ACCURATE ones, which in this case it is not. YOU remain in error and DISHONEST. 


No, since this is a matter of the English language, it is up to you.   And as you have tendency to misread things, as evidence by this last reply, you have a bit of an uphill climb.


YOU have been dishonest and evade answering that dishonesty.

YOU posted something that is NOT in the quote you posted. YOU have then fabricated something that wasn't contained IN the passage and are responsible for that distortion. It is up to YOU to show that YOUR substitution is the same when they are NOT interchangeable, the Apostle's taught by PREACHING, empowered by the Spirit and not by YOUR willful distortion.

It is NOT within YOUR purview to make substitutions without proper authority, which you do NOT have AND to make ACCURATE ones, which in this case it is not. YOU remain in error and DISHONEST. 

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:06:28Copy HTML

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LOL


When you know that your existence is in the sphere of inversion, I guess THIS is all you can come up with as a reply.LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:07:43Copy HTML

 

"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

NOTICE THE FOUR aspects IN the passage . Tomaplaz THEN CHANGES the wording, based on his own misconception and has STAYED with that error (UNDERLINED below) of his own making

 In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study (Tomaplaz' OWN wording , not the Bible), fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:12:50Copy HTML

Well, as long as you refuse to address my points and observations, and as apparently you need the last word - have at it.
Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:18:04Copy HTML

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Well, as long as you refuse to address my points and observations, and as apparently you need the last word - have at it.


There is nothing wrong with your screens ladies and gentlemen. This is Tomaplaz' last gasp as apparently he feels the need more important to COVER his glaring  and willful error than to act as the Christian he claims to be and admit he made a major error and won't CORRECT that error.

Notice how he cannot and Doesn't back up his claim, except to make absurd suggestions about his own misunderstanding and tortured, incorrect nuances. He CANNOT support his claim with BIBLICAL references so he dodges and obfuscates. THESE are not the actions of a genuine Christian and Tomaplaz is masquerading as such to, I guess , in his own  mind, gain some form of legitimacy. He has done the complete opposite and exposed himself and unknowing and NOT being a Christian.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #282
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 12:46:42Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 04:01:13Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


When you know that your existence is in the sphere of inversion, I guess THIS is all you can come up with as a reply.LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-06-2018 04:17:55Copy HTML

"LOL" is all the response necessary for your posts, wale.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:02:40Copy HTML

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"LOL" is all the response necessary for your posts, wale.


When you know that your existence is limited and inverted, too bad THIS is all you can come up with as a reply.LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:03:53Copy HTML

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Well, as long as you refuse to address my points and observations, and as apparently you need the last word - have at it.

There is nothing wrong with your screens ladies and gentlemen. This is Tomaplaz' last gasp as apparently he feels the need more important to COVER his glaring  and willful error than to act as the Christian he claims to be and admit he made a major error and won't CORRECT that error.

Notice how he cannot and Doesn't back up his claim, except to make absurd suggestions about his own misunderstanding and tortured, incorrect nuances. He CANNOT support his claim with BIBLICAL references so he dodges and obfuscates. THESE are not the actions of a genuine Christian and Tomaplaz is masquerading as such to, I guess , in his own  mind, gain some form of legitimacy. He has done the complete opposite and exposed himself and unknowing and NOT being a Christian.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #287
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:07:02Copy HTML

Same to same.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:17:08Copy HTML

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Same to same.


Not at all and you won't see that until you straighten out. LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:22:26Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 02:28:01Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


Must mean something to your inverted thinking.LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 01:51:20Copy HTML

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Reply to Tomlapaz

Well, as long as you refuse to address my points and observations, and as apparently you need the last word - have at it.



There is nothing wrong with your screens ladies and gentlemen. This is Tomaplaz' last gasp as apparently he feels the need more important to COVER his glaring  and willful error than to act as the Christian he claims to be and admit he made a major error and won't CORRECT that error.

Notice how he cannot and Doesn't back up his claim, except to make absurd suggestions about his own misunderstanding and tortured, incorrect nuances. He CANNOT support his claim with BIBLICAL references so he dodges and obfuscates. THESE are not the actions of a genuine Christian and Tomaplaz is masquerading as such to, I guess , in his own  mind, gain some form of legitimacy. He has done the complete opposite and exposed himself and unknowing and NOT being a Christian.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #292
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 04:00:52Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 04:56:28Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


A good enema might bring you some clarity . LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 05:32:47Copy HTML

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LOL


Perhaps just abstaining from anal insertions would help . LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:28-06-2018 09:04:31Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

LOL


Perhaps staying off the pharmaceuticals would help you. LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:29-06-2018 04:22:25Copy HTML

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LOL


No? I guess some day you will find yourself - and wish you hadn't. LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:29-06-2018 05:00:47Copy HTML

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LOL



It is a GOOD thing for YOU that stupidity isn't painful. LOL

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:29-06-2018 05:02:37Copy HTML

LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:30-06-2018 06:22:24Copy HTML

 Reply To Tomlapaz
(Date Posted:06/27/2018 06:18 AM)

Reply to Tomlapaz

Well, as long as you refuse to address my points and observations, and as apparently you need the last word - have at it.


There is nothing wrong with your screens ladies and gentlemen. This is Tomaplaz' last gasp as apparently he feels the need more important to COVER his glaring  and willful error than to act as the Christian he claims to be and admit he made a major error and won't CORRECT that error.

Notice how he cannot and Doesn't back up his claim, except to make absurd suggestions about his own misunderstanding and tortured, incorrect nuances. He CANNOT support his claim with BIBLICAL references so he dodges and obfuscates. THESE are not the actions of a genuine Christian and Tomaplaz is masquerading as such to, I guess , in his own  mind, gain some form of legitimacy. He has done the complete opposite and exposed himself and unknowing and NOT being a Christian.

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:02-07-2018 12:44:05Copy HTML

There is nothing wrong with your screens ladies and gentlemen. ...

A Vic Perrin you're not, wale.  Not even close.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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