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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:30-04-2018 12:56:24Copy HTML

Below is a good piece on Acts 2:42, on what makes for a health church.  In fact, the church growth was explosive in the book of Acts.

04/09/18  Grace Mail

"All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer" (Acts 2:42).

In Acts 2:42, we read that was the priority of the early church: Bible study, fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.

One of our sister churches that we actually helped to start are meeting in a school, where they have to set up and tear down every Sunday morning. They have to pack everything in a trailer. As I was thinking about that, I was thinking of how many things they don't have. You think, "Doesn't a church have to have certain kinds of buildings?" "Don't they have to have certain types of furnishings?" "Don't you need a cross somewhere?" "Don't you need a steeple someplace?" "Don't you need a gymnasium and a golf course, and a pool?"

I think of what the early church didn't have and it was so successful! The early church didn't have any of that stuff. It didn't even have the stuff we have. And yet, people were getting saved, and it was more successful in the first century than the church has ever been since.

The Gospel went out into the entire world, and all they had was Bible study, fellowship, the breaking of bread and prayer.

So, I think that everything that a church does ought to center around one of those four things. We ought to be able to trace everything we do at Calvary back to the fact that it's either Bible study, it's a fellowship opportunity, it's the breaking of bread (which I believe speaks of the Lord's Supper prominent in services and available to people), and/or prayer. Everything should come back to that. Those are the priorities. If you can get to other things; they're not wrong, but these are the things a church ought to focus on.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:18-07-2018 04:43:36Copy HTML

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"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:18-07-2018 12:02:27Copy HTML

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You just continue to display your stupidity with these absurd distortions. Maybe open the book and learn one day, will you.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:18-07-2018 12:15:10Copy HTML

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You are mentally ill Wale.  A couple of your biggest idols are checking up on you.

 Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

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Im pretty sure we can make mentally ill Wale blow a gasket forever doing this. 


You , at one point, must address your inner unrest that doesn't allow you to see beyond your limited constructs BUT I guess that goes with your limited intellect, always on display when you post
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:18-07-2018 12:15:39Copy HTML

Reply to Boguspumped

 
RE: Reply #388,

RE: Reply #389,
LOL

 
Do you also slurp on skdoodle when you make these LOL sounds? LOL

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

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Reply to Boguspumped

 
RE: Reply #82,

RE: Reply #83,
LOL

 

Taking a break from performing on skdoodle? LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:19-07-2018 12:21:59Copy HTML


Reply to Bogus0Pomp

 
LOL

 

Perhaps when you get back on your meds you might expand from your severe limitations. LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:19-07-2018 03:40:04Copy HTML

 

 
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:21-07-2018 03:09:42Copy HTML

 Whatever my "inner unrest" may be.....this is what two of the brightest minds on earth say about wale.

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:21-07-2018 07:33:06Copy HTML


Reply to Boguspumped

 
LOL

 

did you just come up for air to give your lover skdoodle a break.LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:21-07-2018 07:33:19Copy HTML

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 Whatever my "inner unrest" may be.....this is what two of the brightest minds on earth say about wale.

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


YOUR inner unrest and immaturity believes the crap you post , I guess but maybe a nice stay at a rest home or the psych ward might help you.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:21-07-2018 09:28:58Copy HTML

 Now Wale is calling direct quotes from Einstein and Freud "crap".  If he isn't fantasizing about homosexual acts, he is calling luminaries crap.  He has lost it.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 10:19:03Copy HTML

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 Now Wale is calling direct quotes from Einstein and Freud "crap".  If he isn't fantasizing about homosexual acts, he is calling luminaries crap.  He has lost it.

Once again you've shown you cannot read as I've called your characterization of the quotes crap and THIS really demonstrates your immaturity and insecurity in a big way.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 10:35:17Copy HTML

Reply to skwanderer

 Now Wale is calling direct quotes from Einstein and Freud "crap".  If he isn't fantasizing about homosexual acts, he is calling luminaries crap.  He has lost it.

Yes he has, a long time ago.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 11:10:12Copy HTML

 Once again you've shown you cannot read as I've called your characterization of the quotes crap

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These quotes need no characterization from me.  They describe you perfectly. Plus, its fun watching you implode.

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 02:40:58Copy HTML

Reply to skdummy

 Once again you've shown you cannot read as I've called your characterization of the quotes crap

____

These quotes need no characterization from me.  They describe you perfectly. Plus, its fun watching you implode.

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."



Only in your irrational and inwardly disturbed psyche!  Part of your inner instability?  I am just making obvious observations based on your irrational rants.
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 02:41:55Copy HTML

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Reply to skdummy

 Now Wale is calling direct quotes from Einstein and Freud "crap".  If he isn't fantasizing about homosexual acts, he is calling luminaries crap.  He has lost it.

Yes he has, a long time ago.


Since you cannot think clearly as your inverse existence gives you only an inverse prism, it is really YOU and skdoodle who have lost it . LOL
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 03:23:08Copy HTML

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

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THIS is a refreshing change. Is that coffee or cocoa?
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:22-07-2018 09:29:39Copy HTML

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:23-07-2018 03:48:50Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp



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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 12:11:18Copy HTML

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 12:33:51Copy HTML

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 12:40:55Copy HTML

 

 
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 06:40:07Copy HTML

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


Freud and Einstein.....not skdoodle.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 08:37:18Copy HTML

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Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


Freud and Einstein.....not skdoodle.


Thanks for posting YOUR immaturity and irrationality AGAIN, for ALL to see. Freud is NOT omniscient and Einstein said MUCH more which you have to ignore in order for your nonsense to make some semblance of sense, in YOUR mind.

In an interview published in George Sylvester Viereck's book Glimpses of the Great (1930), Einstein responded to a question about whether or not he defined himself as a pantheist. He explained:

...It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. .... The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe.

We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written.

The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God.

We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Personal_God

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:24-07-2018 08:39:30Copy HTML

 Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


Freud and Einstein.....not skdoodle.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:25-07-2018 03:17:37Copy HTML

Reply to skdummy

 Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis. Einstein says "the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."


Freud and Einstein.....not skdoodle.


Going around in circles back to your distortions and ignoring what Einstein ALSO said.

Thanks for posting YOUR immaturity and irrationality AGAIN, for ALL to see. Freud is NOT omniscient and Einstein said MUCH more which you have to ignore in order for your nonsense to make some semblance of sense, in YOUR mind.

In an interview published in George Sylvester Viereck's book Glimpses of the Great (1930), Einstein responded to a question about whether or not he defined himself as a pantheist. He explained:

...It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. .... The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe.

We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written.

The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God.

We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Personal_God

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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-07-2018 12:07:18Copy HTML

No, wale, you are going around in circles because it is YOUR distortions that ignore what Einstein and Kaku said.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Four essentials for a healthy church

Date Posted:27-08-2018 03:40:18Copy HTML

I've quoted and posted Einstein and Kaku accurately. LOL

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