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alaskaone
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Date Posted:14-09-2017 05:02:46Copy HTML

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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #31
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:19-06-2018 04:04:00Copy HTML

Reply to mickeyrat


Women tend not to choose the same jobs, they tend not to work the same hours, they tend 
not to be as competitive as men.  Women who do work the same jobs, the same hours and 
exhibit the same competitiveness get paid the same or more.

You're full of shit. You've got every excuse in the world. How many women have you worked with? You're a prison guard.

Officers?  Inmates?  Civilians?  This year or my entire working life?

I've worked with women who could and did work half the men under the ground. I've worked with women every bit as competitive as any man,. And why should "competitiveness" make a difference as to how much you get paid?

Is that a joke?

Where are you coming up with this bullshit, which is yet ANOTHER attempt by you to prove that you, a white man, are really the one oppressed in this country, and that all the groups who HAVE been disadvantaged by white men really have nothing to bitch about because it's all their own fault. Damn, if women ONLY wouldn't be mothers we'd be willing to pay them the same. Damn, if blacks would ONLY do this or that.

That must be it.

Meanwhile pussy little white men cry and bitch and moan about how oppressed they are, then, when they can't stand their own fucking inferiority complexes, go out and shoot up a school or a concert to make them feel like men again.

The average age of a school shooter is 16.  They've never been men at all.  As for concerts, I assume you're referring to Los Vegas?  So far as I know, motives have not yet been established.  Perhaps you, in all your glorious wisdom, have information we mere mortals do not?

Damn I can't stand fucking whiny white men. They have EVERY advantage in this nation and then, when they can't hack it, they whine whine whine.

You're a clear example, certainly.



Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #32
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:19-06-2018 04:13:26Copy HTML

Reply to mickeyrat

 They are also quitting in their late 30's to 40's to start families.  That alone, if not factored into the statistics, will create a difference in wages across the genders in the legal profession... all professions, really.

More bullshit. More excuses. More whining.

I see.  Women taking time off from careers for 6 months or 6 years has no impact at all on the statistics or their overall earnings.  Of course that must be right.

As for whining, you are by far the worst useless whiny little bitch I've ever encountered... bar none.  If you are anything like your online persona in real life, I see a fat little wad bullied throughout public school, clinging to 'his' teachers pant leg or skirt for protection from the world and dreading the bus ride home every day.  As an adult, judging from the persona you voluntarily choose to project, you're a useless greaseball no woman would touch without significant cash in advance.

Now... we can continue this foolishness if you like.  I can trade insults with you until the cows come home, you miserable excuse of a human being, or I can meet you in a parking lot somewhere and beat the fuck out of you, if that's what you really want. 

Or you can grow a pair and stop acting like you're trying to win a gold in the douchebaggery Olympics.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #33
  • From:Norway

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:19-06-2018 04:37:31Copy HTML

Alaska in never never land again.................facts in reality are considered "douchebaggery" in never never land, so if a person chooses reality over never never land, they are douchebags. oy!

You have to understand, alaska is creating a fantasy world of his own making here. Statistics, his own perception of "average" people are, totally hypothetical balderdash leaves us with errant assumptions and ridiculous scenarios. 

The real world doesn't operate this way, and that is the problem today. "Average" people don't truly exist except for the purpose of inventing guidelines to follow in making statistics, making arbitrary hiring decisions, etc, etc. These are the reasons we are losing our way. "Average" doesn't exist. 

Like taking a group of 30 people that all need a specific shirt for work, for example. The tallest is 6' the shortest is 5' 6", the heaviest is 325lbs, the lightest is 140lbs. 1/2 are male, 1/2 female. So let's add them up take an average and get 30 shirts for the average size of the group. 

Ridiculous eh? Well, extrapolate that mentality through out and we have alaska world. 

The thing is, there are women who are stronger than men, smarter than men, etc, etc., and visa versa. It's too bad we have come to this in most aspects of our lives. Looking at "averages" and statistics when making decisions, rather than the much more practical and successful method of taking each person, place and thing individually and uniquely. As they really are. 

From my own small world, when I hire anyone I want to sit down face to face and conduct a friendly thorough interview. The resume has little weight other than giving me an idea of what if any experience the person comes with. I have a much more solid idea of who the person is and what I can hope for with them by face to face honest discussion. 

People who hire based on resumes and impersonal scripted interview processes don't fair as well. And again extrapolate these things as far and wide as you like. We now try to suck the most $$$ out of every situation with the very least amount of time or effort. It's no longer efficiency, it's inhumane lustful greed drive. 

alaska, it's probably good for you to get yoiur head out of that regimented isolated from reality world of corrections. But try to keep an open mind, your direction is really negative and not realistic. Your imagination gets away from you it seems
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mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #34
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:19-06-2018 07:52:14Copy HTML

Reply to alaskaone
Reply to mickeyrat

 They are also quitting in their late 30's to 40's to start families.  That alone, if not factored into the statistics, will create a difference in wages across the genders in the legal profession... all professions, really.

More bullshit. More excuses. More whining.

I see.  Women taking time off from careers for 6 months or 6 years has no impact at all on the statistics or their overall earnings.  Of course that must be right.

As for whining, you are by far the worst useless whiny little bitch I've ever encountered... bar none.  If you are anything like your online persona in real life, I see a fat little wad bullied throughout public school, clinging to 'his' teachers pant leg or skirt for protection from the world and dreading the bus ride home every day.  As an adult, judging from the persona you voluntarily choose to project, you're a useless greaseball no woman would touch without significant cash in advance.

Now... we can continue this foolishness if you like.  I can trade insults with you until the cows come home, you miserable excuse of a human being, or I can meet you in a parking lot somewhere and beat the fuck out of you, if that's what you really want. 

Or you can grow a pair and stop acting like you're trying to win a gold in the douchebaggery Olympics.


Well, instead of being insulting, you could always try addressing the issue.

The vast majority of companies today have maternity leave programs, and FMLA allows someone to go on unpaid leave and keep their job secure. There is no reason why maternity would result in women making less money, because no woman today is required to sacrifice her job for maternity.

And if she CHOOSES to do so, then there are other applicants--some also women--to step into her place. So if she comes back to work, she does so at the same rate as when she left, and if she chooses to leave, then that has no effect on the prevailing wage in her industry.

~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #35
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 02:43:16Copy HTML

Reply to mickeyrat

Reply to alaskaone
Reply to mickeyrat

 They are also quitting in their late 30's to 40's to start families.  That alone, if not factored into the statistics, will create a difference in wages across the genders in the legal profession... all professions, really.

More bullshit. More excuses. More whining.

I see.  Women taking time off from careers for 6 months or 6 years has no impact at all on the statistics or their overall earnings.  Of course that must be right.

As for whining, you are by far the worst useless whiny little bitch I've ever encountered... bar none.  If you are anything like your online persona in real life, I see a fat little wad bullied throughout public school, clinging to 'his' teachers pant leg or skirt for protection from the world and dreading the bus ride home every day.  As an adult, judging from the persona you voluntarily choose to project, you're a useless greaseball no woman would touch without significant cash in advance.

Now... we can continue this foolishness if you like.  I can trade insults with you until the cows come home, you miserable excuse of a human being, or I can meet you in a parking lot somewhere and beat the fuck out of you, if that's what you really want. 

Or you can grow a pair and stop acting like you're trying to win a gold in the douchebaggery Olympics.


Well, instead of being insulting, you could always try addressing the issue.

Self examination isn't really your strong suit, is it.

The vast majority of companies today have maternity leave programs, and FMLA allows someone to go on unpaid leave and keep their job secure.

Yes, they do.

There is no reason why maternity would result in women making less money, because no woman today is required to sacrifice her job for maternity.

Well, that's clearly not true.  While a large company may be able to absorb the costs of paying two wages for one person, small businesses cannot.  As you should know, small businesses are the largest source of employment in this country.  Imposing yet another financial burden upon them is not something that should be done merely for, 'feels' and without regard for consequences.  Tax and regulatory burdens upon small employers are significant, and sometimes fatal.

And if she CHOOSES to do so, then there are other applicants--some also women--to step into her place. So if she comes back to work, she does so at the same rate as when she left, and if she chooses to leave, then that has no effect on the prevailing wage in her industry.

I am, as a rule, opposed to equality of outcome efforts.  To use an in your face example;  there are not a lot of women who want, let alone can, be 'sanitation engineers'.  If a female sanitation engineer takes off to have a baby... finding a replacement may not be possible.  Worse, down that road lay dragons because it won't be long before progressives start demanding there be 51% women sanitation engineers and 49% male.

Women don't want to work with sewage, as a rule, so imagine what the government will bring to bear in it's attempts to force equality of outcome.



Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #36
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 03:47:17Copy HTML

Women, women, women, don't want to do a particular job as if men don't want to do certain jobs either, it is not exclusive.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #37
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 03:54:13Copy HTML

Reply to katie5445

Women, women, women, don't want to do a particular job as if men don't want to do certain jobs either, it is not exclusive.

Exactly right.  There are tendencies associated with gender.  Attempting to impose equality of outcome tries to erase, by force, the choices individuals make.  That's a horrible idea.

I'm all for equal opportunity.  If a woman wants to work in the sewers, more power to her.  If a dude wants to be a flight attendant, more power to him.  But to look at an industry and require the genders be equally represented is just nonsense.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #38
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 04:26:53Copy HTML

Impose is different that choice. Equal representation is when you can do the job equally and a company as far as I aware of must give both an equal opportunity to perform and test as a male can fail at a typically male job and vice versa. Equality or feminism doesn't mean women should have jobs they can't perform physically or mentally.
DC3Cowboy Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #39
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 04:43:23Copy HTML

Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men - Even In The Same Job




Wages are always a factor of supply and demand. If women were in demand and/or the supply was low, their wages would be higher, so what part of that equation is a factor? Obviously, it's demand, so why are women not in equal demand with men?
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alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #40
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:02:10Copy HTML

Reply to katie5445

Impose is different that choice. Equal representation is when you can do the job equally and a company as far as I aware of must give both an equal opportunity to perform and test as a male can fail at a typically male job and vice versa. Equality or feminism doesn't mean women should have jobs they can't perform physically or mentally.

I'm glad to hear that but you are clearly not a feminist of the third wave persuasion.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #41
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:04:57Copy HTML

Reply to DC3Cowboy
Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men - Even In The Same Job


Wages are always a factor of supply and demand. If women were in demand and/or the supply was low, their wages would be higher, so what part of that equation is a factor? Obviously, it's demand, so why are women not in equal demand with men?

If women were actually paid 3/4ths the wages a man got for the same job then women would be more in demand, would they not? 

The gender pay gap is a fiction.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #42
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:13:29Copy HTML

No they would not, women are only beginning to get their feet in the door, accepting an equal position for less pay than a man is not gender gap fiction, it is willing to accept the position because it was important and we want to show we can do as good as job and are willing to take less to get the foot in the door. How is it fiction, who is claiming fiction, the stats are not "fixed" by liberals or conservatives, they are just plain out facts.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #43
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 06:36:43Copy HTML

Reply to katie5445

No they would not, women are only beginning to get their feet in the door,

Women have been in the work force in a major way since the 1940's.  That's about 70 years which, granted, in the long history of humanity is nothing but for most of us... it's several generations.

accepting an equal position for less pay than a man is not gender gap fiction, it is willing to accept the position because it was important and we want to show we can do as good as job and are willing to take less to get the foot in the door.

In other words, doing the same thing young men do;  get their foot in the door and work their way up by hook and by claw.  Good for them!

How is it fiction, who is claiming fiction, the stats are not "fixed" by liberals or conservatives, they are just plain out facts.

Nonsense.  Statistics are never, 'plain out facts', hence the lament... lies, damned lies and statistics. 

You cannot, in any seriousness, average the wages of all men, compare that figure to the average for all women and declare it inviolable proof of, "Patriarchy!  Oppression!  Misogyny!"

That whole 'men oppress women' narrative being promulgated by the postmodern neomarxists and third wave feminists is utter garbage... worse, garbage is useful.  The 'men oppress women' narrative is malevolent.  It doesn't even pass the most superficial of analysis.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #44
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 06:57:59Copy HTML

You can accuse me of doing that but I it is not what I said or meant. Women have been in the work force since the 40's the 40's was taking over jobs when the men were at war and those women lost those jobs when they came back. Women in the workforce have been educators or secretaries at best or menial jobs when they had to as in widows or divorced and that hasn't been going on for that long as men were the educators and the secretaries. I don't "average" the wages of all men vs all women, that would be stupid. Not getting the vote till 1920 wasn't oppressive, really? Women  in college in the 40's was less than 4% and now we are at 55%, you think that is because women were dumb and didn't choose to go to college, no it was not. You think women didn't want to go out for a meal when they weren't allowed, go dancing, shimmy up to the bar and order a cocktail, told how to dress, where to go and where not to, depend on a husband for finances or be an "old maid" dependent on their father and living at home, think again. All minorities have a history of oppression and that isn't localized to this country, all you have to do, is check out the rest of the world, at least women in the west have gained ground in the last 100 years by miles but to say we are still not oppressed is misogyny and ignorance at it's worst.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #45
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 07:30:24Copy HTML

Reply to katie5445

You can accuse me of doing that but I it is not what I said or meant.

I wasn't accusing you of anything.

Women have been in the work force since the 40's the 40's was taking over jobs when the men were at war and those women lost those jobs when they came back.

Some did.  How many men 'didn't come back' at all?  How many came back in pieces?  But, for the point, it's widely accepted that women began entering the work force en-mass in the 40's.  You don't go from 0 to 100 mph instantly.

Women in the workforce have been educators or secretaries at best or menial jobs when they had to as in widows or divorced and that hasn't been going on for that long as men were the educators and the secretaries.

The same is true for men.  Scratch that.  Worse is true for men.  Women have always had value if only for making babies.  Men?  Valueless in most societies throughout all of human history.

I don't "average" the wages of all men vs all women, that would be stupid.

That is how the gender wage gap figure was calculated, Katie.  I agree!  It's stupid!

Not getting the vote till 1920 wasn't oppressive, really?

No.  No for several reasons.  Since we're talking about the US, lets start there.  Nobody voted until after the revolutionary war.  So let's give them a year or two to organize and say voting began in 1778 and was limited to white, land owning Protestant men.  142 years later, women got the vote. 

You don't go from zero to 100 instantly.  Things take time.

As a side note, one of the first things women did with their vote was help pass prohibition which was a dream come true for every organized crime outfit in the world. 

Women  in college in the 40's was less than 4% and now we are at 55%, you think that is because women were dumb and didn't choose to go to college, no it was not.

I don't think that at all.

You think women didn't want to go out for a meal when they weren't allowed, go dancing, shimmy up to the bar and order a cocktail, told how to dress, where to go and where not to, depend on a husband for finances or be an "old maid" dependent on their father and living at home, think again.

I think many times.  And I think that birth control, which hit the market in 1960!, is what enabled much of what you claim women wanted.  Hell, there wasn't a cheap and easy way to deal with menstruation until after 1888!  That's only 130 years ago!

Those are not trivial issues and if you abandon the 'men hate women' narrative, the picture clears up considerably.  Men protect women... when society is functioning properly.  And pretending men had it so wonderful is just preposterous.  Until the 1900's, life was radically more difficult than it is now.  Women had burdens and so did men and both did what they could to ease the lives of the other. 

Why?  Because we're the same species.  We belong together, we compliment each other.  We are not competitors no matter how much the third wave feminista's want us to believe otherwise.

All minorities have a history of oppression and that isn't localized to this country, all you have to do, is check out the rest of the world, at least women in the west have gained ground in the last 100 years by miles but to say we are still not oppressed is misogyny and ignorance at it's worst.

And off into name calling we go.

You've inadvertently touched upon an inconvenient truth, though.  "All minorities have a history of oppression".  That's true.

And prior to the enlightenment, everybody was oppressed in all of the ways you can possibly think of.  Everybody except 'nobility' and their hangers on.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #46
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:01:20Copy HTML

Alaska, one of these days, I encourage you to read what you write. Then laugh and cry, since both are appropriate to your humorous ingnorance.


~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #47
  • From:Norway

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:54:07Copy HTML

The following talk is lengthy, but I found it quite worthwhile for me to understand Peterson better. Russel Brand thinks along the same lines as I, so having him probe Peterson intelligently with an open mind, non judgmentally. Very interesting and thought provoking talk. So if you have some time, I think it's well worth it. A well spent hour plus. 


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katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #48
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 05:56:34Copy HTML

The topper had to be "menstruation" what happened to Alaska's generation, what persons his age and younger know about men or women must be taken on by us baby boomers, who'd thought we would raise children that understood humans less than our parents and grandparents did. Isolation, electronics, lack of education, poor parenting?
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:20-06-2018 07:55:13Copy HTML

Reply to easyrider123

Russel Brand 

What accent is that?
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #50
  • From:USA

Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:21-06-2018 02:58:30Copy HTML

Reply to easyrider123

The following talk is lengthy, but I found it quite worthwhile for me to understand Peterson better. Russel Brand thinks along the same lines as I, so having him probe Peterson intelligently with an open mind, non judgmentally. Very interesting and thought provoking talk. So if you have some time, I think it's well worth it. A well spent hour plus. 

Brand and Peterson have done a second interview you might enjoy

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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:21-06-2018 03:00:11Copy HTML

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The topper had to be "menstruation" what happened to Alaska's generation, what persons his age and younger know about men or women must be taken on by us baby boomers, who'd thought we would raise children that understood humans less than our parents and grandparents did. Isolation, electronics, lack of education, poor parenting?

Good grief.

Nothing I said was inaccurate yet you choose to imply otherwise.

Sheesh.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:21-06-2018 04:00:54Copy HTML

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Russel Brand 

What accent is that?

British
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Re:Jordan Peterson

Date Posted:06-10-2018 05:35:55Copy HTML

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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