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Yobbo
  • From:New_zealand

Date Posted:27-09-2018 06:32:45Copy HTML

For instance my post on contradictions in the bible.  Some of the contradictions were laid out, admittedly not by me but all it needs is checking the original source.  Yet any debate was soon abandoned by the god squad and recently Wale has come on to the scene and resorted to insults.

Go to that thread and tell us why the accounts differed.  And since they do differ only one could be right.  Or none.  So which one to believe?  Why believe any of them?


"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:27-09-2018 06:55:14Copy HTML

For instance my post on contradictions in the bible.  Some of the contradictions were laid out, admittedly not by me but all it needs is checking the original source.  Yet any debate was soon abandoned by the god squad and recently Wale has come on to the scene and resorted to insults.

Go to that thread and tell us why the accounts differed.  And since they do differ only one could be right.  Or none.  So which one to believe?  Why believe any of them?



ASK original and limited questions and not a swath of someone else's thoughts. YOU were told this and then spernt the REST of the time diverting with the same tactics you complain about.

have you any thoughts OR any questions of your own?

Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:27-09-2018 08:12:23Copy HTML

They were verbatim quotes from the various gospels, in many cases contradicting each other. That these examples of contradiction are second hand is irrelevant. 

Just tell us how you reconcile them.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:28-09-2018 12:54:54Copy HTML

They were verbatim quotes from the various gospels, in many cases contradicting each other. That these examples of contradiction are second hand is irrelevant. 

Just tell us how you reconcile them.


Now you are dodging. My point is very simple and specific, ASK original and limited questions and not a swath of someone else's thoughts. YOU were told this and then spernt the REST of the time diverting with the same tactics you complain about.

have you any thoughts OR any questions of your own?

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:28-09-2018 12:55:09Copy HTML

They were verbatim quotes from the various gospels, in many cases contradicting each other. That these examples of contradiction are second hand is irrelevant. 

Just tell us how you reconcile them.


Now you are dodging. My point is very simple and specific, ASK original and limited questions and not a swath of someone else's thoughts. YOU were told this and then spent the REST of the time diverting with the same tactics you complain about.

Have you any thoughts OR any questions of your own?



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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:28-09-2018 03:36:24Copy HTML

Let's start near the beginning of the OT.


Genesis 6:19,20 god tells Noah to collect two animals of every species on his ark while in Genesis 7:1 he is told to collect 7 of each "clean" species.


Tell me how to reconcile these two accounts.


"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:28-09-2018 04:08:02Copy HTML

I would argue those quotes may not be inconsistent and it could be both 7 of every “clean” species (whatever the hell that is) and 2 of all other species. Either way it is not evolutionarily feasible that most or even many of those would survive being down to a breeding population of two. Not feasible. Likewise, if they did survive from a breeding population of 2, and given genetic variability today, evolution operates a lot faster in the Bible than in any science text. Not to change the subject. What is the next contradictory quote to reconcile?
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:28-09-2018 02:45:14Copy HTML

Let's start near the beginning of the OT.


Genesis 6:19,20 god tells Noah to collect two animals of every species on his ark while in Genesis 7:1 he is told to collect 7 of each "clean" species.


Tell me how to reconcile these two accounts.



Genesis 6:19-22 (RSV)

19 And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 

 20 Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground according to its kind, two of every sort shall come in to you, to keep them alive.


Genesis 7:1-3  (RSV)

The Great Flood

Then the Lord said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen that you are righteous before me in this generation. Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and his mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and his mate; and seven pairs of the birds of the air also, male and female, to keep their kind alive upon the face of all the earth.


There is no problem here BUT if you read the prior verses ( Gen 6:1-18, you'll see that Noah was being told what would happen/occur and hwhat his preparations were to be. The second verse you cited ( Gen 7:1) is a writing which complements the previous, no problem here, UNLESS one is just citing what ANOTHER'S words are from ANOTHER site and not reading on their own. You should actually OPEN the book and read through it a bit.


Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:10-10-2018 02:47:22Copy HTML

Well, this ended quickly.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:10-10-2018 06:44:07Copy HTML

There is no problem here BUT if you read the prior verses ( Gen 6:1-18, you'll see that Noah was being told what would happen/occur and hwhat his preparations were to be. The second verse you cited ( Gen 7:1) is a writing which complements the previous, no problem here, UNLESS one is just citing what ANOTHER'S words are from ANOTHER site and not reading on their own. You should actually OPEN the book and read through it a bit. ____ Lol. God says take 7 pairs with you, but only 2 will come to you. Noah and his boys had to go out and collect the other 5 pairs of every animal. Easy task. They needed Ark I and Ark II to bring animals from S and N America. Ark III from Australia and Ark IV from Asia. Ark V was bigger than them all because it needed 7 pairs of every animal and not two. That is over 3 times the amount of food required for at least a 6 month period until some food starts growing again. The Ark V must have been as big as China. Several of the "pairs" that couldn't swim or fly were actually smart enough to get to ARK V on their own because they jumped on Ark II and Ark III.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:10-10-2018 07:06:30Copy HTML

There is no problem here BUT if you read the prior verses ( Gen 6:1-18, you'll see that Noah was being told what would happen/occur and hwhat his preparations were to be. The second verse you cited ( Gen 7:1) is a writing which complements the previous, no problem here, UNLESS one is just citing what ANOTHER'S words are from ANOTHER site and not reading on their own. You should actually OPEN the book and read through it a bit.

Lol.  God says take 7 pairs with you, but only 2 will come to you.   Noah and his boys had to go out and collect the other 5 pairs of every animal.  Easy task.   They needed Ark I and Ark II to bring animals from S and N America.  Ark III from Australia and Ark IV from Asia.  Ark V was bigger than them all because it needed 7 pairs of every animal and not two.  That is over 3 times the amount of food required for at least a 6 month period until some food starts growing again.  The Ark V must have been as big as China. Several of the "pairs" that couldn't swim or fly were actually smart enough to get to ARK V on their own because they jumped on Ark II and Ark III.


Some assumptions on your part!

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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 12:23:32Copy HTML

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 01:39:55Copy HTML

Atheists are more intelligent than religious people, say researchers.


NONSENSE and in fact just the opposite. Who are these researchers and what is their background?

Atheism- The belief that once there was absolutely NOTHING and NOTHING happened to the NOTHING UNTIL the NOTHING magically exploded for
NO reason creating EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. Then a bunch of the EVERYTHING exploded and magically rearranged itself, for NO reason whatsoever
into self replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.

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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 05:51:59Copy HTML

Atheists are more intelligent than religious people, say researchers.


NONSENSE and in fact just the opposite. Who are these researchers and what is their background?

Atheism- The belief that once there was absolutely NOTHING and NOTHING happened to the NOTHING UNTIL the NOTHING magically exploded for
NO reason creating EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. Then a bunch of the EVERYTHING exploded and magically rearranged itself, for NO reason whatsoever
into self replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.


See, you make assertions without evidence.  The report indicates that research was done yet you feel you can gainsay it without any.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #14
  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 01:47:31Copy HTML

That’s what trolls do Yobbo. They just troll. There is nothing but emptiness behind the homophobic imbecilic one liners.
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 01:53:51Copy HTML

Atheists are more intelligent than religious people, say researchers.


NONSENSE and in fact just the opposite. Who are these researchers and what is their background?

Atheism- The belief that once there was absolutely NOTHING and NOTHING happened to the NOTHING UNTIL the NOTHING magically exploded for
NO reason creating EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. Then a bunch of the EVERYTHING exploded and magically rearranged itself, for NO reason whatsoever
into self replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.


See, you make assertions without evidence.  The report indicates that research was done yet you feel you can gainsay it without any.


NO, I'm presenting an accurate take on ATHEISM ans simply because you disagree doesn't invalidate the presentation Dobbo!

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 01:55:28Copy HTML

That’s what trolls do Yobbo.  They just troll.  There is nothing but emptiness behind the homophobic imbecilic one liners.


That is YOUR idiotic and mentally disturbed perception BUT that is all it is, a distorted perception on your part you idiot SKDUMMY!

There is NO such thing as homophobia.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 04:39:01Copy HTML

That’s what trolls do Yobbo.  They just troll.  There is nothing but emptiness behind the homophobic imbecilic one liners.



Skwanderer, you are so right.  However, wale is a substantial, walking textbook example of a raging homophobe.  Don't you think?


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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 04:39:08Copy HTML

Atheists are more intelligent than religious people, say researchers.
 


NONSENSE and in fact just the opposite. Who are these researchers and what is their background?

Atheism- The belief that once there was absolutely NOTHING and NOTHING happened to the NOTHING UNTIL the NOTHING magically exploded for
NO reason creating EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. Then a bunch of the EVERYTHING exploded and magically rearranged itself, for NO reason whatsoever
into self replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.


 
See, you make assertions without evidence.  The report indicates that research was done yet you feel you can gainsay it without any.
 



Yobbo, I think you're going to have to tell wale what the word "gainsay" means.  He doesn't seem to know what it means and I fear that he lacks the skills and knowledge to look it up himself.


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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 05:40:30Copy HTML

That’s what trolls do Yobbo.  They just troll.  There is nothing but emptiness behind the homophobic imbecilic one liners.



Skwanderer, you are so right.  However, wale is a substantial, walking textbook example of a raging homophobe.  Don't you think?




A phobia (from the Greek: f?ß??,phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear") is an irrational, intense and persistent fear of
certain situations, activities, things, animals, or people. The meaning in the Greek language has NOT
changed. There is NO such thing as homophobia, as a "phobia" is a fear of something.
A "homo" phobia would be a fear of homosexuals, and what you mislabel as a phobia is actually a legitimate
disapproval of a deviant behavior.
Your non- acceptance of that genuine disapproval doesn't legitimize the distorted presentation of what a phobia is.

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 06:18:32Copy HTML

As explained to you before you fucking imbecile. Words don’t usually mean exactly what their roots mean.  It means what it says in the fucking dictionary.  It means you fear you ARE a homosexual. Likely, you know you are and you hate yourself for it. I’ll give you another example. Oneirogmophobia is the fear of having wet dreams during one of your homosexual dreams. It’s root words mean literally “one dream fear”....but in reality it is a fear of wet dreams Likewise, homophobia means exactly what the fuck the dictionary says it means you stupid ass.  Words do not mean exactly what their roots mean you fucking moron.

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 06:21:22Copy HTML

If words were intended to mean exactly what their roots mean, homophobia means fear of primates. Wake, you are cartoonishly stupid. I wonder if you are real or just playing a fucking lunatic.
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 09:47:05Copy HTML

As explained to you before you fucking imbecile. Words don’t usually mean exactly what their roots mean.  It means what it says in the fucking dictionary.  It means you fear you ARE a homosexual. Likely, you know you are and you hate yourself for it. I’ll give you another example. Oneirogmophobia is the fear you have of having wet dreams during one of your homosexual dreams. It’s root words mean literally “one dream fear”....but in reality it is a fear of wet dreams Likewise, homophobia means exactly what the fuck the dictionary says it means you stupid ass.  Words do not mean exactly what their roots mean you fucking moron.


There you go again with the F bombs, NOW for one, self proclaimed though, who SAYS he is very intelligent, you ought to KNOW that thet F bomb in printed exchanges detrcts from your presentation SKDUMMY! The meaning in the Greek language has NOT changed., therefore, according to the etymology, there is NO such thing as homophobia, as a "phobia" is a fear of something.Your non- acceptance of that genuine disapproval doesn't legitimize the distorted presentation of what a phobia is.
Secondly, continual support of a deviant behavior doesn't make your support of that illegitimate behavior legitimate.

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 09:48:15Copy HTML

If words were intended to mean exactly what their roots mean, homophobia means fear of primates.   Wake, you are cartoonishly stupid. I wonder if you are real or just playing a fucking lunatic.


" I am getting frustrated because MY statements are not accepting as I hand dispense them to the masses"-SKDUMMY

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:19-11-2018 10:33:08Copy HTML

DIGIT-A-DAY
2018.323 - Day 49
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A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #25
  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:20-11-2018 12:15:06Copy HTML

There you go again with the F bombs, NOW for one, self proclaimed though, who SAYS he is very intelligent, you ought to KNOW that thet F bomb in printed exchanges detrcts from your presentation SKDUMMY! ____ It is because you are a grade A fucking moron and a raging homophobe. PS. Intelligent people use more swear words. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/27/swear-words-intelligence_n_12213206.html PSS. You could try it, but I guarantee it wont help you look smarter, because you are a grade A fucking moron, and a raging homophobe. PSSS: Triple bad news for dickless homophobe Wale. People Who Curse A Lot Are Smarter, Funnier And Healthier https://www.elitedaily.com/wellness/curse-smarter-funnier-healthier/1672656 lolololololololololol
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:20-11-2018 01:42:21Copy HTML

There you go again with the F bombs, NOW for one, self proclaimed though, who SAYS he is very intelligent, you ought to KNOW that thet F bomb in printed exchanges detrcts from your presentation SKDUMMY!

It is because you are a grade A fucking moron and a raging homophobe. PS.  Intelligent people use more swear words. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/27/swear-words-intelligence_n_12213206.html PSS.  You could try it, but I guarantee it wont help you look smarter, because you are a grade A fucking moron, and a raging homophobe. PSSS: Triple bad news for dickless homophobe Wale. People Who Curse A Lot Are Smarter, Funnier And Healthier https://www.elitedaily.com/wellness/curse-smarter-funnier-healthier/1672656 lolololololololololol


elitedaily? reaaly?

"Oooh my estrogen levels blow sky high when i am challenged, apart from mentally, which i already am"-SKDUMMY


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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:20-11-2018 07:12:06Copy HTML

DIGIT-A-DAY
2018.324 - Day 50
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" I must defend my emotionally unstable and mentally challeged potential blowbuddy once again" - BOGUSPUMPED

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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:20-11-2018 08:12:12Copy HTML

DIGIT-A-DAY
2018.324 - Day 50
1

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:21-11-2018 12:23:59Copy HTML

elitedaily? reaaly? ----- Would you like to shoot that messenger with a 12 gauge or a pistol? elitedaily was the web site that reported the study.The study was completed by researchers from Marist College ...as if you ever opened and read anything in your entire worthless troll-child life. You can ignore the credentials of Marist college here: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/marist-college-2765 And as always "reaaly" is spelled "really" you fucking worthless tool.
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  • From:USA

Re:Let's have a real debate without diversions.

Date Posted:21-11-2018 05:24:18Copy HTML

elitedaily? reaaly?


Would you like to shoot that messenger with a 12 gauge or a pistol? elitedaily was the web site that reported the study.The study was completed by researchers from Marist College ...as if you ever opened and read anything in your entire worthless troll-child life.  You can ignore the credentials of Marist college here: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/marist-college-2765 And as always "reaaly" is spelled "really" you fucking worthless tool.


"Oooh my estrogen levels blow sky high when i am challenged, apart from mentally, which i already am"-SKDUMMY

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