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  • From:USA

Date Posted:26-10-2018 04:23:46Copy HTML

The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.

The report, "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (PDF), used extensive policy data collected between 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the U.S. political system.



After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.



The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."



Researchers concluded that U.S. government policies rarely align with the preferences of the majority of Americans, but do favour special interests and lobbying organizations: "When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it."

The positions of powerful interest groups are "not substantially correlated with the preferences of average citizens," but the politics of average Americans and affluent Americans sometimes does overlap. This is merely a coincidence, the report says, with the interests of the average American being served almost exclusively when it also serves those of the richest 10%.



The theory of "biased pluralism" that the Princeton and Northwestern researchers believe the U.S. system fits holds that policy outcomes "tend to tilt towards the wishes of corporations and business and professional associations."



The study comes after McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission, a controversial piece of legislation passed in the Supreme Court that abolished campaign-contribution limits, and record low approval ratings for the U.S. Congress.

www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar&utm_term=desktop&referrer=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2vSGDKXt2lbB9_aYMU7ACEKyO2vDGIZjZPswasjojRhWTisdjbAt9v3N8

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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:26-10-2018 06:06:15Copy HTML

Don't need a "major study" to tell us this, they must need one to lessen the reality. Better to try to make it seem not so bad, before everyone wakes up and figures out just how awful it really is huh?  lol


Is everyone in some kind of fantasy land? We the people have been fucked for a while now, and it's been getting progressively worse, to the point where they are now having to cop to it................sort of!  lol 

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:26-10-2018 07:04:31Copy HTML

A little unsure of what is meant by Oligarchy......from Wikipedia: Throughout history, oligarchies have often been tyrannical, relying on public obedience or oppression to exist. Aristotle pioneered the use of the term as a synonym for rule by the rich,[4] for which another term commonly used today is plutocracy. Although an oligarchy is usually seen as tyrannical, most modern states rely on some form of oligarchy, usually in the form of representative officials deciding national policy. The concern of tyranny usually occurs when the rule of law is violated or when there's limited separation of powers. Especially during the fourth century BCE, after the restoration of democracy from oligarchical coups, the Athenians used the drawing of lots for selecting government officers to counteract what the Athenians saw as a tendency toward oligarchy in government if a professional governing class were allowed to use their skills for their own benefit.[5][page needed] They drew lots from large groups of adult volunteers to pick civil servants performing judicial, executive, and administrative functions (archai, boulē, and hēliastai).[6] They even used lots for posts, such as judges and jurors in the political courts (nomothetai), which had the power to overrule the Assembly.[7] ........ Not sure Greece had the answer, but as I read the trials and tribulations of Plantagenet Kings and Queens, histories I would not have read were they not ancestors, there emerged a necessity for them to balance the powers of the nobility, the church, and the people. The justice system served pretty well, but was in need of the king’s hand from time to time, just to keep it on track and injustice in check...avoiding corruption. Many communities have oligarchies, influential people who can make a phone call and set things straight.....it’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s not the way things should work, but it does work. If elites agree with the people or if they don’t oppose an issue, then people get their way. All things in moderation, balance works the best...is our standard of living to be pitied? The rise of homelessness suggests an imbalance. Besides not wanting to see them on the streets what do elites think should happen? Our police round them up and out of town, an unwritten policy. Not a source of pride for the community, but we have our hands full with domestic violence, people we know, so there’s not much charity left for those we don’t. Although, if a story runs in the newspaper, someone always steps up to help....we’re good people. We like to think so, and the paper plays to that.....and the influential phone calls.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:27-10-2018 04:02:55Copy HTML

Citizens United
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:27-10-2018 09:58:17Copy HTML

OLIGARCHY? YOU KIDDING? WHY DO WE NOT USE TERMS CLOSER TO THE TRUTH. TRUMP HAS CRATED A FACSIST GOVERNMENT AND REPUBLICANS LOVE IT.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:27-10-2018 10:26:31Copy HTML

OLIGARCHY?  YOU KIDDING?  WHY DO WE NOT USE TERMS CLOSER TO THE TRUTH.  TRUMP HAS CRATED A FACSIST GOVERNMENT AND  REPUBLICANS LOVE IT.



I'm going to guess because your opinion and what is true are not necessary the same thing.   Here's an article from Vox, a left leaning source, where 5 experts on fascism don't agree with you:



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism



Personally, I think Trump is an ignorant cretin who has no idea what he is doing.  Calling him a fascist gives him far too much credit, as if he actually thought through any political ideology enough to actually have one.  I've tried to see him as both extremes do, as the strategic hero or the strategic villian...sorry, I don't see either.  



But to the OP,  I don't know about oligarchy....I prefer to describe the unholy alliances with the 1% as "corporatism"...but I didn't need a study to see this:  


The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business and special interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

The red is my addition. 

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:27-10-2018 11:50:27Copy HTML

GEE, WHEN I WRITE SOMETHING I ALMOST ALWAYS MEAN IT. Signs that Trump and Republicans are Fascists Ever increasing push for Nationalism Supremacy of the Military Disregard for Human Rights Control of major segments of the media Continual lies about opposition Marriage of Religion and Government Election Fraud and Voter Suppression Corporate Power Protected Labor Rights undermined Disdain for intellect and science
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #7
  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:43:51Copy HTML

I am happy. 


 QZ and Nate posts are minds at work, and I love a mind at work whether I agree or disagree or have to google...so refreshing! 


 Thank you!

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 02:32:32Copy HTML

GEE, WHEN I WRITE SOMETHING I ALMOST ALWAYS MEAN IT. Signs that Trump and Republicans are Fascists Ever increasing push for Nationalism Supremacy of the Military Disregard for Human Rights Control of major segments of the media Continual lies about opposition Marriage of Religion and Government Election Fraud and Voter Suppression Corporate Power Protected Labor Rights undermined Disdain for intellect and science




I don't doubt you mean it or see those items as signs.  While I believe some of your list is true, likely not to the same degree you do, some of it I don't. Regardless, it could all be true and still not mean he and/or the GOP are actual fascists. 



Did you read the link I provided?  It discuss items on your list and why they either aren't true or don't equate to fascism. 


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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 02:38:01Copy HTML

Citizens United



True, that's one symptom of the malaise .....................

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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 02:43:02Copy HTML

GEE, WHEN I WRITE SOMETHING I ALMOST ALWAYS MEAN IT. Signs that Trump and Republicans are Fascists Ever increasing push for Nationalism Supremacy of the Military Disregard for Human Rights Control of major segments of the media Continual lies about opposition Marriage of Religion and Government Election Fraud and Voter Suppression Corporate Power Protected Labor Rights undermined Disdain for intellect and science




I don't doubt you mean it or see those items as signs.  While I believe some of your list is true, likely not to the same degree you do, some of it I don't. Regardless, it could all be true and still not mean he and/or the GOP are actual fascists. 



Did you read the link I provided?  It discuss items on your list and why they either aren't true or don't equate to fascism. 




QZ, what ever you want to call it, the items nate listed are true, regardless of the levels you might want to argue. Simply put we have a government by the bilionares, for the billionares. Call it what ever you like, bottom line.....it's wrong in every sense. 

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 03:06:05Copy HTML






QZ, what ever you want to call it, the items nate listed are true, regardless of the levels you might want to argue. Simply put we have a government by the bilionares, for the billionares. Call it what ever you like, bottom line.....it's wrong in every sense. 



Well as I just stated, I don't believe they all are true, your opinion notwithstanding.  I agree that the government and 1% are engaging in an unholy alliance, Easy...they have been doing so long before Trump.  We weren't a country run by fascists then, we aren't now.   Statists in the main, sure, and I'm no fan of statism.    But just because political systems share similarities does not make the same.  



Just to be clear, I'm not rejecting to the label because I'm defending Trump.  He is a terrible president and a horrible person, and in all liklihood anything I would consider good that happened on his watch happened only because someone else in his administration did it.  I'm only saying I don't believe the "fascist shoe" fits.  At all.   Clown shoe is much more approrpriate. 

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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 04:53:55Copy HTML

Agreed, Trump is an asshole clown, always has been IMHO, and yes this 1% er government has been around for a while now, and keeps getting incrementally worse. The best thing about Trump is that he's got people paying atention a little more closely now. 


I see plenty of fascist traits, plutocratic traits, oligarchal traits, blah, blah, blah............ we need a management overall. America's life is unmanageable as is. It's toxically dysfunctional in ever respect

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #13
  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:16:03Copy HTML

Personally, I think Trump is an ignorant cretin who has no idea what he is doing. Calling him a fascist gives him far too much credit, ___ I agree with QZ. He is an unwitting fascist boob. He is easily played by his opponents. I cant believe people think this man is a financial genius. If he took daddy's money when he was 18 and put it in a savings account he would be richer today.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:36:18Copy HTML

If he took daddy's money when he was 18 and put it in a savings account he would be richer today.


Why do that when everything this country worships and stands for tells him movers, shakers, industrialists (job creators) and risk takers are the kings and gods of wealth and society? "Winning is EVERYTHING" and if you 'fake it til you make it' long and hard enough, you could be president?

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:40:45Copy HTML

True, but I'm the guy who, if I were Bill Gates or Paul Allen at Harvard in the late 70s, everyone would be saying today "whatever happened to that guy, I haven't heard anything about him in several decades".....meanwhile Im headed out of the thatched roof bungalow in Bali to go spearfishing off my sailboat.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:49:47Copy HTML

Agreed, Trump is an asshole clown, always has been IMHO, and yes this 1% er government has been around for a while now, and keeps getting incrementally worse. The best thing about Trump is that he's got people paying atention a little more closely now. 


I see plenty of fascist traits, plutocratic traits, oligarchal traits, blah, blah, blah............ we need a management overall. America's life is unmanageable as is. It's toxically dysfunctional in ever respect




I think it is more accurate to use the word "trait" as you have, Easy.  Not only is more likely to be true, it makes discussing the issue less likely to be dismissed out of hand.  I doubt you and I will ever agree on the solution for the imbalance of power we have, but at least we agree on the problem. 

dunjuz_not Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:50:26Copy HTML

I mean, sure these guys are all heros, but they're also working jerks and meanwhile the uneducated banger on the radio bragging about hoes and popping caps in cops is a billionaire.

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 12:56:20Copy HTML

whatever happened to that guy,


I remember a guy from hs (50 years ago) that said we'd all be connected in the future and he was going to make a fortune selling 'minutes' to everyone. I laughed and laughed. ;(


Never saw him again.

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 03:25:36Copy HTML

Personally, I think Trump is an ignorant cretin who has no idea what he is doing.  Calling him a fascist gives him far too much credit, ___


I agree with QZ.  He is an unwitting fascist boob. He is easily played by his opponents.  I cant believe people think this man is a financial genius.  If he took daddy's money when he was 18 and put it in a savings account he would be richer today.



I don't think Trump is an "unwitting fascist boob".  I think Trump is ignorant boob and at times, he spouts things which an actual fascist might spout.  To me, that is a distinction with a difference because he also sometimes spouts things that a socialist might spout, sometimes what a conservative might spout., and so on. He is all over the map and half the time, he contradicts what he just said ten minutes ago. 


As for being played by his opponents...sure.  But what's more amazing to me is how often his opponents help make his case.   As an example, the MSM during the Kav witchtrial was openly stating they were printing allegations they could not substantiate despite their best efforts.  When the MSM start admitting to peddling fake news, that is boon for Trump.  And as far as I'm concerned, so is calling him a FASCIST!!!   That is going to appeal to those who already believe it, but there are not enough of those folks to turn the sea of red to blue.  

Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #20
  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:28-10-2018 11:56:22Copy HTML

Because I get confused https://youtu.be/Syw-2cBi5v8 Red or Blue? Liberal or Conservative? America or the rest of the world? Wait for the little boy in pink explanation.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:30-10-2018 12:39:16Copy HTML

I don't doubt you mean it or see those items as signs. While I believe some of your list is true, likely not to the same degree you do, some of it I don't. Regardless, it could all be true and still not mean he and/or the GOP are actual fascists. ___ I think they strongly believe they are not, all the wile they pretty much are. There are degrees of fascism. You have just admitted they are fascists, but not that bad of fascists. I thought the right was fearful of the slippery slope. We are just a little fascist right now...not to worry? This is the same thing that happened in Germany ...whether you hate the analogy or not. Hindenburg and the other leaders put up with a little fascism to get what they wanted.....and then it was too late. I don't think it will happen here but vigilance is warranted.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:30-10-2018 12:41:33Copy HTML

I don't think Trump is an "unwitting fascist boob". I think Trump is ignorant boob and at times, he spouts things which an actual fascist might spout. To me, that is a distinction with a difference ___ Facism is not a dichotomy. It is a continuum. Trump is just a little bit pregnant? No, but he is a little bit fascist.....actually more than a little bit.
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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:30-10-2018 03:33:57Copy HTML

 I think they strongly believe they are not, all the wile they pretty much are. 


Who is "they"?   Do you mean Trump and the GOP?  


There are degrees of fascism.  You have just admitted they are fascists, but not that bad of fascists.   I thought the right was fearful of the slippery slope.  We are just a little fascist right now...not to worry?


As I just argued that Trump/GOP were NOT fascists, with my explanation of why NOT, including providing a link from a leftwing source of 5 experts going into detail as to why NOT, you are engaging in rhetorical fallacy.  I don't hold that there are degrees of fascism, but rather there are degrees of totalitarianism.   Fascism is ONE type of totalitiarism, and under its label are varients. 


I'm stating the "fascism" shoe does not fit, not that I think it is acceptable to slide some of our foot into it. 


This is the same thing that happened in Germany ...whether you hate the analogy or not.  Hindenburg and the other leaders put up with a little fascism to get what they wanted.....and then it was too late.  I don't think it will happen here but vigilance is warranted.



I don't "hate" the analogy, Skw...it serves just as well to point out the dissimilarities, which are distinctions which make a difference.   This is the argument being made in the link I provided.  

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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:05-11-2018 07:24:52Copy HTML

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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:05-11-2018 08:00:25Copy HTML

I rather think America isn't the only nation that is an oligarchy.  They all tend to go that way.


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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:06-11-2018 02:20:46Copy HTML

Oligarchy is the path of least resistance. It’s not the city council but the guys in town who can make a phone call to get things done. Actually, things run smoothly when they have been paying attention, but when they meet for lunch and that’s all they do, stuff gets out of hand. Victims line the street to the council chamber where issues get tabled until someone figures out what the oligarchs want, or a phone call is made. When the oligarchs disagree, it sells newspapers, and we the onlookers are fascinated by the drama; it’s so rare. Can I name them, sure, at my own risk and possibly yours....lol Just on a small scale. Large scale is similar but tempests can take them down. Nations fall, but the thugs in a town will hardly notice any changes. Patton used Nazis after the war ended because they were good at their jobs, of course time was of the essence before people rose to say how wrong that was of him...revenge, retribution was more important to victims than efficient delivery of much needed services. Fine?
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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:06-11-2018 04:41:31Copy HTML

I think you're missing the point. Backroom deals and rich folks pulling strings is nothing new, just as prostitution, these things are part of the game. But what we have here today goes way outside the parameters of this. Unfettered crony capitalism has gone beyond any acceptable level. It will destroy the country if something isn't done. 

Politicians with integrity perhaps? Some sort of Revolution by 'we the people'? It's out of hand, it's not sustainable.

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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:06-11-2018 05:42:14Copy HTML

Cronies have a tendency to destroy each other, which restores balance. Patience. If all else fails, they eventually die and the next generation languishes, not having paid adequate attention to how things were done. My state legislature wrote code to eliminate the back room deals, called it the open meeting law, sent people all around the state to explain how it to stay out of trouble with it. Lots of uncomfortable people on city councils for years. I wasn’t referring to anyone who held public office or could be held accountable. As a nation, we get what rich people want or don’t object to very much. That’s not all bad, but it sure could be better, and I was suggesting that maybe they aren’t paying attention. So consider where their interests coincide with the public as a place to begin nudging change where it’s needed. The toughest place would be to repeal the court decision to treat a company as a person because that benefits them immensely. Another tough place is the campaign contributions from outside a voting district. If you can’t vote in a district then you shouldn’t be able to influence the outcome of an election with campaign contributions. We don’t really have representative government. Now isn’t a bad time to work that since folks are upset about the influence of Russia and China in recent elections. Voter fraud is incredibly easy,,,, candidates or their trusted representatives really need to be present for the count. Ours is the oldest government on the planet; it’s a solid foundation for rugged individualists. All the isms are flawed but have their supporters and practitioners polarizing us....we ought to be able to withstand their assaults, but maybe we didn’t pay enough attention to how things were done. Flower in the rifle’s barrel, while poignant, doesn’t keep the enemy from the gate. It practically invites them. We should all serve in the military and end the private contracts siphoning tax dollars from the treasury, another tough issue but more with the public than the likely to be exempt rich. We were a more united country when military service was required until the loss in Vietnam was ordered. Ordered from the field, our military didn’t lose, but our politicians failed miserably. Perhaps that’s a generation of politicians who failed to pay adequate attention to Korea.
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  • From:Norway

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:06-11-2018 05:57:42Copy HTML

I have the patience, I'm 65 and I'm not worried for myself, but I am concerned for that health of this planet and the people who will carry on. I hope to see some positive action before I leave. That gives me around 30 years give or take to be patient. (hopefully ;-))

post 28 is appreciated, and I agree with the first statement made in it, I hope to see this 'next' generation, which is in the gate steps up and delivers. 


We shall see...........



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  • From:USA

Re:Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

Date Posted:07-11-2018 04:53:31Copy HTML

Ours is the oldest government on the planet... ----- Did you mean democracy? That is debatable. There are some others in the running for oldest government or longest lasting. Pandyan Empire (1850 years) This society of Southern India is considered the longest-lasting empire in history. It was dominated by trade and was extremely wealthy due to agriculture and control of fisheries and pearl beds. A series of kings ruled the region during this period, which lasted from about 500 BC to 1350. ConstantinopleByzantine Empire (1123 years) Also known as the Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantine culture based in Constantinople (now Istanbul) dominated much of Europe and the Levant between 330 and 1204 AD. By the 13th century, the empire was in decline, and although it was re-established in 1261, it was never a major power. The empire was finally overthrown by the Ottoman Turks in 1453. Silla (992 years) This kingdom, originally established in 57 BC, eventually covered much of the Korean peninsula. By 527, Silla was officially a Buddhist nation — although this did not discourage it’s frequent wars with the other Korean kingdoms. Nevertheless, the nation enters history as one of the oldest of all time. Ethiopian Empire (837 years) One of the few African nations to hold out against European colonialism, the Ethiopian Empire (also known as Abyssinia) lasted from 1137 until 1975 (it may have continued, but the government was overthrown in a coup). Multiple European nations (including Italy and Britain) attempted to colonize Ethiopia during the late 1800’s, but were defeated by Ethiopian forces. Roman Empire (499 years) The classic Roman Empire that we know most about, the society that was based on Rome and counted Julius Caesar among it’s first rulers, lasted for nearly 500 years. This followed the period of the Roman Republic, which also lasted nearly 500 years, but civil war and instability led to the dissolution of the Senate and the founding of the Empire. At the end of it’s life, in the 5th century, Rome began to collapse under the weight of invasions, and eventually broke up. San Marino (415+ years) Perhaps the oldest government still in operation today, more or less unchanged, is the Italian micro-state of San Marino. With a land area of less than 30 square miles, the nation has been able to maintain it’s boundaries and integrity of government for more than 400 years. Aborigine man at UluruAboriginal Australian Cultures (50,000 years) This is a special case, since aboriginal Australians have never formed empires or states in the same sense as the other known nations. But it is believed that Aboriginal culture has remained intact, with largely continuous religious and political structure, for more than 50,000 years (and possibly 65,000 or more). That’s some serious stability. United States of America (239+ years) As of 2015, the United States has been in existence for 239 years, since the Declaration of Independence in 1776. That seems like a long time — 11 or 12 generations. But it pales in comparison to the other cultures and governments listed above.
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