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partoftheproblem
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Date Posted:01-11-2014 03:11:42Copy HTML


I'll start: I'm still marveling at the 2014 performance of that Bumgarner kid. Do you realize that with his post-season innings he pitched 270 of them this year? Amazing, given what his contemporaries manage. I hope he stays healthy. I doubt that he will, what with those dangerous mechanics, but may he thrive for years to come. What a kid! What a pro! 

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire
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  • From:Norway

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 06:11:58Copy HTML

 hmmmm
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TITANPANTHER1 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #182
  • From:USA

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 04:34:58Copy HTML

Niners officially eliminated from playoffs, another crummy performance by Kaepernick, missing wide open receivers by 10 yards. Doesn't do much good to have a strong arm and can't hit the broad side of a barn. Wasn't all his fault, the Niner offensive line just got beat in the trenches for the most part and again, their running game was almost non-existent. To make matters even worse, Gore and Hyde go out with injuries. Bottom line, defense played respectable, offense once again sucked. Better luck next year, Niners.

But all was not lost. The Cowboys pull out a great win against the Eagles in Philly. Great offensive show for Dallas, they now control their own destiny and a good chance to win the NFC East. But they still have to play Indy in Dallas and the Redskins in Washington, things could still get dicey for the Cowboys.

mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #183
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 07:07:41Copy HTML

God that is jarring, someone who likes both the Niners and the Cowgirls. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

Colin may not have played that well, he hasn't all this year. But really, that call against Moody was a backbreaker, it's the difference between one and two scores late in the game. Niners had to go twice on 4th down, their defense doesn't get the chance after an Andy Lee punt to keep the Seahawks near their endzone, giving the Niner's better field position on their next set of downs.

I really do believe that football officials are beginning to become like basketball officials, where the star of the home team gets fouled twenty times and the star of the visiting team is 'only' fouled five times. Football is becoming too much like that. The personal foul calls, fifteen yards, they're too critical. It's inarguable, really, the league and EVERYONE admits it, that the Niners got jobbed on the Ahmad Brooks call last year against NO, that was the home field advantage difference in the playoffs. That's a call that directly affected the playoffs.

Ditto with this one. I see the league has already admitted that Hockule's call was also bad--just as they did last year.

There's too much homerism amongst the refs.

Look at greenbay. 7 - 0 at home, 3 - 4 on the road. Is that just by chance? For those who think Aaron Rodgers is such a great QB, I'd be interested in his home vs. away winning percentage.

Field position is half the game in football. Not every drive is going to end with a score. Sometimes, if you're starting at your twenty, the best you can do is move half the field, punt, and then hope to pin the other guys back. These PI calls in the endzone and the really poor personal foul calls have to be gotten under control.

The answer, CLEARLY, is to make the personal foul calls reviewable, SPECIFICALLY when it is relative to the placement of the helmet and how it got placed there. There's way too many calls on the basis of one blitzer hits the qb from the right, that knocks the qb to the left and the blitzer from the left doesn't even have time to adjust to make sure he doesn't hit the QB incorrectly. These have to be reviewable to distinguish between purposeful and unavoidable hits.
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mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #184
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 07:17:08Copy HTML

My Steelers, of course, won. I have to be very careful this week with my language so as not to give surely hurtin' Fearless Leader an excuse to ban me. (Not that he needs one, but...). In honor of his gift pick six, I'm calling Matt Ryan Mattie Nice this week! lololol.

It looks more and more like the AFC North, as I predicted some time ago, might put three teams into the playoffs. I still don't really believe in Cincy, but I believe in the Baltimore defense and Flacco's workmanlike ability to do just as much, and I believe in the Steelers offense, though I don't believe at ALL in the Steelers D.

And despite the fact that there are actually five NFC guys--POTP, EZ, Lit, TP and bones--versus two AFC'ers, yaz and myself, I have to say that it is clear to me that the AFC is a FAR stronger conference than the NFC. Despite the Steelers' losses to Tampa Bay and New Orleans, the fact is that a large part of the reason the NFC South has such a bad record is that they're playing the AFC North, I think the Steelers are the only team in the division that hasn't swept the NFC South. Both the defenses and the offenses , and, especially, the QBs, are, on average, better than corresponding NFC units.

Also nice is that the Lions have taken over the NFC North division, it will make that final game very interesting. Both because I don't really like GB and do like the Lions, I'm very hopeful that it comes down to that game and a Lions victory.

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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 07:26:29Copy HTML

 Ive been sitting back quietly lurking in this thread as my Seahawks get healthy and start eying another run.   Go Hawks.  We really needed Wagner back.  Now we need our offensive line.
partoftheproblem Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #186
  • From:USA

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 08:34:38Copy HTML

Thanks for the Lions-friendly vibes, Mickey (and EZ).

Mickey, I'd like to return the favour re: your Steelers, but of the remaining AFC contenders, I'm rooting for the Bengals now that the Browns are done (man, was that ever a fiasco of a debut for Johnny Football yesterday!), and I'm doing so for the same reason I was pulling for the Browns: the Bengals never win anything (plus, an old pal of mine lives in Cincinnati). As a lifelong Lions fan, I feel strong empathy for other perennially unsuccessful teams. By no means do I hate the Steelers; it's just that their history is sated with victory. Same thing for the Pats and the Broncos.

Watching yesterday's Lions-Vikings tilt was something of an ordeal: why, or how, an offense as talented as my Honolulu-blue boys can generate only about 250 yards in total against a mediocre defense like the Vikings is beyond me. (Myself, I blame the play-calling, but I accept the fact that the sport is far more complicated than I can even guess.) But they won, and there are no points for style, as the cliché goes. They have to beat the Bears on the road next week before the Lambeau Field finale against the Packers and this year's league-best quarterback. When I think about either game, I get a gristly knot in my gut, and not because of the team's woeful history. I'm legitimately worried that this team, 2014 edition, will lose both games.

(Even though he had a lousy second half, I was pretty impressed with the Vikings' rookie QB, Teddy Bridgewater. I won't be surprised if he has a solid career.) 

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mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #187
  • From:USA

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:04:03Copy HTML

By no means do I hate the Steelers; it's just that their history is sated with victory. Same thing for the Pats and the Broncos.

There's one difference between my Steelers




and the other dynasties, including the Cowboys and Niners.

The Steelers have done it twice, minimum. I.E., they had a dynasty in the 70's under Chuck Noll, and with two rings in the '05 - '15 decade under Cowher/Tomlin, they have a legitimate claim to dynasty now as well, sealed if Ben can get one more ring. That's not to mention the middle years of Cowher's years, when they were also consistently at the top of the league, even though they did lose to Dallas in SB in '95. (For which Neil O'Donnell, I still remain convinced, is damned to hell DESPITE the large payoff to him from Larry Brown.)

All the other dynasties had only ONE sustained period of excellence. The Niners in the '80s. The Broncos under Elway. The Pats under Brady's. The Cowboys come closest, under Landry and JJ, but I think they only got the one SB in the '70s, so not really dynastic then.
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Yazmine88 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #188
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:14:54Copy HTML

 Seattle looked strong and they have Pete Caroll so there's that.  BUT that roughing the passer call was total bullshit.  The. Niners look a mess, so does Harbaugh. What a disappointment.

Now, to my Patriots and their new total stud running back, Tom Brady.  The comments that came from Gronk and the rest of his teammates, after that 17-yard run were hysterical.  Clydesdale, indeed LOL.  He's the man.

They look stronger than years past, and more together. Their defense is still giving up too many points (except to the Lions, 9) but Chandler Jones is back now.
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  • From:Norway

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:21:36Copy HTML

Another legitimate perspective on NFL dynasties...


Frankly, who is the greatest dynasty in NFL history? I've had this discussion with some of the fans on Twitter in recent weeks. I figured I would give this a stab right now.

Honorable mention: the current New England Patriots. The Tom Brady dynasty started in 2001 and has continued through today. I do want to give this dynasty a chance to breathe a bit before we can put it into the context of history. You have to believe history is going to be very favorable with threeSuper Bowls in four years along with AFC dominance without many stars and a revolving roster.

And without further ado ...

  • Miami Dolphins, 1971-74

    The Dolphins are saddled with the indignity of being the only team to not score a touchdown in a Super Bowl after they were trounced by theCowboys, 24-3, in Super Bowl VI. The Dolphins won back-to-backSuper Bowls after, and went undefeated in 1972. The Dolphins were primed for a three-peat, but lost to the Oakland Raiders in the "Sea of Hands" game in the 1974 playoffs.

  • Dallas Cowboys, 1992-95

    The Cowboys featured a young roster and "the triplets" of Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin when they won Super Bowl XXVII. And it looked like they were poised for a long run after they won back-to-back Super Bowls. The firing of Jimmy Johnson and free agency doomed the 'Boys. A win in Super Bowl XXX is not given enough credit and looks like a miracle when you consider the current state of theCowboys.

  • Green Bay Packers, 1961-67

    Vince Lombardi's Packers lost in the 1960 NFL Championship Game, but he vowed not to lose another playoff game after that. And he didn't in Green Bay. The Packers would win five NFL titles during that run, including the first two Super Bowls. You might not know this, but Lombardi's name is on the Super Bowl trophy.

  • Cleveland Browns, 1946-1955

    There might be some debate as to whether to include the Browns or not because of their four consecutive AFC championships. The Brownsvalidated their existence with a title in their first NFL season (1950) and a trip to the championship game in 1951-53 and then two NFL titles in 1954 and 1955. That's appearances in 10 consecutive championship games.

  • Pittsburgh Steelers, 1972-79

    The Steelers ended a 24-year drought when they reached the playoffs in 1972. Don't Google it, the answer is "yes" to your question about the 1972 playoffs -- that is the Immaculate Reception game. The Steelerswould win four Super Bowl titles in six years against some of the most well-regarded teams in NFL history. The 1976 Steelers failed to win theSuper Bowl, but many consider that squad to be the best team in franchise history. But injuries to Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier kept them from winning.

  • San Francisco 49ers, 1981-1994

    The Steelers were more dominant over a shorter period of time, but that plays to the 49ers' strength. The 49ers won five Super Bowls over this period with two different quarterbacks and two different head coaches. That's saying something. Plus, if you look over a greater time period, the 49ers missed the playoffs just twice from 1981-1998. The 1991 49ers just missed the playoffs (they finished 10-6) and the general feeling was, if they reached the postseason, they would have won the NFC. So this is a pretty good run of dominance.

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Yazmine88 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #190
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:29:27Copy HTML

 Joe never lost a Super Bowl and never threw an interception in one either.  Ya can't beat perfection and he was it!
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  • From:Norway

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:51:20Copy HTML


Yes, Joe Montana is the yardstick we use to measure quarterbacks these days. The question that always seems to come up nowadays is......"If you had 2 minutes left and needed a TD to win and the length of the field in front of you, who do you give the ball to, Brady or Montana?  


From the bleacherreport guys, they see things your way mickey... 
 

1. Pittsburgh Steelers
No other team has held the Lombardi Trophy aloft as often as the Pittsburgh Steelers

Postseason Appearances: 26

Conference Championship Record: 8-7

Super Bowl Record: 6-2

No team has held the Lombardi Trophy aloft more often than the Steelers. And with the possible exception of the Dallas Cowboys, no other team has been quite the model of consistency. 

Since the Super Bowl era began, the Steelers have had only four coaches: Bill Austin for the first three years; the legendary Chuck Noll for 23—under whom the Steelers racked up four Super Bowl titles; the equally legendary Bill Cowher for 15—under whom they made two more appearances and gained another win; and the soon-to-be-legendary Mike Tomlin, who has led the Steelers to two Super Bowl appearances and another win.

Players such as Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, Jack Lambert, Greg Lloyd, Jerome Bettis, Carnell Lake, Rod Woodson, Troy PolamaluBen Roethlisberger, etc., have given the Steelers their much deserved reputation as a hard-nosed, no-nonsense, smash-mouth football team with an intensity that few teams can consistently match and which all fans can at least appreciate.

Even through the Bubby Brister/Scott Campbell/Mark Malone/Rick Strom years, the Steelers made consistent appearances in the playoffs.

Were it not for the errant passing of one Neil O'Donnell, this comparison wouldn't have even been close. 

Well, not exactly. In fact, had the Steelers won Super Bowl XXX, the points differential between these two teams would be exactly the same, but in reverse order.

But with a win in Super Bowl XXX, the Steelers would hold seven trophies...which would make the question moot.

As it stands, however, the Steelers hold the top spot based on their success against the Cowboys in the Big Game. Change the results of Super Bowl XXX, and there is no question as to who is the greatest dynasty of the Super Bowl era.

But we all know it doesn't work that way, don't we?

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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:52:36Copy HTML

First, on the listing, I don't think you can include "what if's" "they were poised for a three-peat" well, guess what, they didn't. Lots of teams could say that about themselves, hell, the Bills can say they were poised for a "four-peat" if only they hadn't lost four in a row.

So I will give credit to Miami for the short dynasty, but I certainly wouldn't put them number #1. They would be behind all the other teams--including the Pats--because of the short duration and the fact they've done very little since then.

For myself, I would probably put Lombardi's Packers first. I'd put my Steelers second based on the their '70s run. I'd put the Niners third, especially because the dominant way in which the Niners under Montana, Rice, Craig, Lott etc. won. The Browns fourth, four titles in a row does it seems to me say that even if a weaker conference back then, they were a dynastic powerhouse.

Then Brady, this Belicheck regime has done more with more different players than any of the other dynasties have.

And, not because I despise that team, but the Cowboys come seventh and last. I'll not deny that the Troika were great in their day. But they DID lose to the Niners in '94 so there was no chance of a three-peat for them, and even if they did beat my Steelers again, even by the account above they did so on a 'miracle'. All of which tends to suggest that those two years were their best years, and two years does not a truly GREAT dynasty make.

And if Ben does by chance win his third this or next year, I will jump HIS dynasty over the Cowgirls again.
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mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #193
  • From:USA

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 09:59:12Copy HTML


As it stands, however, the Steelers hold the top spot based on their success against the Cowboys in the Big Game. Change the results of Super Bowl XXX, and there is no question as to who is the greatest dynasty of the Super Bowl era.

But we all know it doesn't work that way, don't we?


lol, well, yes, it does. It's exactly because they beat Dallas twice but only lost once that they can be said to be the best dynasty ever in the modern era, not to mention that their SB wins bookshelve Dallas', greater success over a longer period of time.
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partoftheproblem Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #194
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:15-12-2014 11:22:20Copy HTML

I don't think there's an NFL franchise more covered in glory than the Pittsburgh Steelers, so I guess I'm putting their dynastic status at the top. . . . Which is why, friend Mickey, I can't root for them . . . Geesh, how much is enough? What are you guys -- insatiable football plutocrats? The Waltons of the gridiron? The Koch brothers of Sunday afternoon? How about sharing the pigskin wealth? (C'mon, man -- I'm a Lions fan, a member of the pro football underclass.)   
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 06:03:59Copy HTML

Hmmm...how about the Fords of the Field, oh NO, that strikes too close to home! ;-)

Maybe not the Waltons, but I do like the Guggenheims of the Gridiron, very euphonic! And proper tribute to that Benjamin Guggenheim who went down in the Titanic dressed in his tails and drinking brandy on the deck. In the end, class, personal if not monetary, always tells.

edited to say, very good week against the spread, btw, 11 - 3 - 1 (SF and Sea actually pushed).

Makes me 46 - 40 against the spread, but once again only 3 - 1 on BB since I lost on GB, grrrr.

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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 07:16:52Copy HTML

  It looks good for the Seahawks next week as the cardinals are down to their 3 string Quarterback going against the number one rated defense. Arizona has a good defense also just not as good as the Seahawks and with a third string Quarterback their offence will not be as good most likely. If the Seahawks win then they will be in front and only have to beat the rams and then on to the super bowl after they win the playoffs. Once again the NFC west champs. But here is the question for Mickey.  Do you think that Pete Carroll is capable of building a dynasty with he Seahawks.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 08:33:08Copy HTML

I don't see why not. I don't see the  Niners going much anywhere for the next few years, I think Arizona is highly overrated, and the Rams are still in building mold, so I could see Seattle dominating this division the next 5 years pretty easily. That said, while I know that Seattle has won their last four games, I think their trouble is that half of them were against a pretty weak Niner squad...I'm still not a believer in them for this year. But since getting into the playoffs is the critical factor, and since I think they'll do that pretty easily in the upcoming years, anything is possible after that.

That said, and despite how badly Peyton played last year, I do still think the AFC is superior to the NFC, so I think that Seattle may have a hard time getting another ring in the next five years...I think the AFC has some strong up and comers like the Colts and Texans to take over when the Broncos, Steelers and Pats start declining.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 09:15:07Copy HTML

 I'm going to add the 2013 -2016 Seahawks to the list.  Perhaps premature.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 09:20:33Copy HTML

 Sky,

  I like your thinking.

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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 09:25:20Copy HTML

 Mickeyrat,

  Although I would prefer you be correct about the 49ers but I am not to sure of that.   They are getting rid of the coach who destroyed Capernick.  He tried to make him a pocket passer and capernick just can't play that way.  So now you have a team in disagreement.  Many side with Capernick and some with the coach.  So bye bye coach.The right coach would come into a team in disarray but a team with a lot of talent.

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  • From:Norway

Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:16-12-2014 09:36:48Copy HTML


TP week  9   ...  9-4
     week 10 ... 11-2          
     week 11 ...  6-8
     week 12 ... 11-4
     week 13 ...  6-10
     week 14 ... 10-6
     week 15 ...  9-7

------------------62-41
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POTP week   9  ... 10-3
         week 10 ...  9-4
         week 11 ...  8-6
         week 12 ... 13-2
         week 13 ... 12-4
         week 14 ... 10-6
         week 15 ... 10-6

---------------------72-31
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Mickey week   9 ... 9-4
           week 10 ... 8-5
           week 11 ... 7-7
           week 12 ... 6-9
           week 13 ...11-5   (s/u)  I'll let you figure out your picks against the spread
           week 14 ...10-6   (s/u)
           week 15 ...12-4   (s/u)

---------------------63-40
________________________________

Easy  week  9 ... 8-5
        week 10 ... 9-4
        week 11 ... 8-6
        week 12 ...13-2
        week 13 ... 6-10
        week 14 ...11-5
        week 15 ...13-3

-------------------68-35


On any given Sunday   eh........ lol
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 07:11:23Copy HTML

 I'm going to add the 2013 -2016 Seahawks to the list. Perhaps premature.

lol. juuuuuuuuuust a little...

He tried to make him a pocket passer and capernick just can't play that way.

Trouble is that while that is true, if he tries to play the other way, he'll be successful only as long as he remains uninjured, but as we see with them all, Vick, RGIII, others, those who are runners first and QBs second don't last that long.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 07:01:29Copy HTML

I see Kaepernick evolving as more of a 'scrambler' type QB, ala Randall Cunningham, Fran Tarkenton even Steve Young....

I don't think you can force a gifted athlete to change very much. He needs to evolve his game through excellent guidance/coaching, but his strength is scrambling and making things happen while he's running around. 

There's no doubt Kaepernick is a gifted QB, he just shoots better when he's moving. 
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 08:03:57Copy HTML

There's no doubt Kaepernick is a gifted QB, he just shoots better when he's moving.

Well, that's part of the problem, if that phrase hasn't been trademarked by you know who...but he DOESN'T throw that much better on the run, there were a number of wide open throws he just flat out missed, and his accuracy is horrible these days in OR out of pocket.

I'm willing to grant that he's probably a little up in the air himself right now and to accept that his inaccuracy this year is due to an inability to really get what role they want for him. But the other thing is that Young and Cunningham and others played in a different era, the game was slower, the players not as big, and the injuries not nearly so devastating. How often did Young or Cunningham tear an ACL or MCL?

The concern these days is that the salary structure prohibits really a quality backup at that position. Sometimes you get lucky, as NE did when Bledsoe went down and Tom stepped in, but normally you end up losing at least a couple of games, enough to knock you out of the playoffs. There's just too much a dropoff, which means protecting the franchise guy is paramount.

I think they need to get rid of him, honestly. Competence in running, like Big Ben shows, is important. But running qbs are of a different era and time, and just can't last in today's NFL.

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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 08:11:07Copy HTML

Also, the G-Men made a good move today in re-signing Sergio Romo. Romo took his demotion from closer last year very well, he had a weekly show, kept it up, never sounded down, got most of his stuff back, is a proven postseason pitcher, 2 years for 15 million, THAT is a very good contract.

I think Billy Ball may be over-rated in comparison to Brian-ball (Brian Sabean is the Giant's general manager). Billy Bean crushed his franchise again this year. Sometimes I think he does so more for his own pleasure, just to see if he can put a new team together, but, first, there's a reason I think why the Giants have 3 championships in 5 years, and the A's none.

The Donaldson trade was just stupid. This is a power guy, fan favorite, who seems to have been pretty happy here. It sucks both for fans and ultimately team when you toss out a player like that for unproven prospects. Sabean generally tosses players that don't perform, but he doesn't go cleaning house like Billy Bean does just for the sake of doing so. The Giants made a good faith offer for Pablo as they should have, but they were happy to let Michael Morse go, who despite his occasional power isn't that great a performer, and they kept a guy in Romo who is productive, accepting if not content (I'm sure he'd like to win back the closer's position) of his current role, and two years is short enough that you can expect production through the course of the contract.

All in all, a good signing.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 08:16:47Copy HTML

 Great news, thanks Mickey.  Romo's got a big heart and a great arm - so glad he'll be pitching for us and not against us!

On the other end of the spectrum, Brian Wilson has been designated for assignment by the Dodgers.....

MM - sad to see him go.  Yes, his fielding was iffy but he sure came through for us in a couple of big games.  I hold my breath this time of the year....almost afraid to click on to mlb or sfgate.  
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 08:20:42Copy HTML

I understand your concerns, but I'm not convinced that Kaepernick won't be able to flourish. This year has been ugly for the 49ers passing game, that's for sure. But I'm not convinced it's entirely his fault. 

Often times people are guided to change their natural methods to conform with a coach's idea for what he/she thinks will work better. We saw last year what Kaepernick is capable of. It was not a fluke IMO.

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. I still believe the kid has a good future in front of him in the NFL. Let's see if the 49ers agree......
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:17-12-2014 08:33:56Copy HTML

So, Ray McDonald was released from the Niners today.

McDonald was the player arrested for domestic violence, but no charges were filed. At the time, owner Jed York stood up for him and allowed him to continue playing. The decision was vindicated in part because no charges were ultimately filed.

Now, last night, there was a incident, rape allegations, a hospital visit and a search warrant on McDonald's home.

It just seems odd to me that a guy who just got over domestic violence allegations would go on a freak trip and violently assault another woman.

When I hear something like this, my attennae go up. I consider the possibility that some young lady may have tried an extortion routine and McDonald refused to play along. 

I have to assume that the Niners are privy as of this writing to info I don't yet have, but it seems that way too often, as in the discussion on Bill Cosby, the accusation is considered enough.

Don't people have ANY sense of fair play? JUST the allegation is not proof.

I'm just really suspicious about this episode. This just seems a situation to me ripe for exploitation, given the earlier arrest, who is going to believe McDonald if he pleads innocence.

There does seem to have been a rape kit done, though, since the judge granted a search warrant, there has to be some sort of firm evidence I think of sexual contact. The question is how it came about.
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:18-12-2014 08:57:13Copy HTML

Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog           S/U
12/18 8:25 ET At Jacksonville -3.5 Tennessee          TEN
12/20 8:25 ET At San Francisco -1 San Diego*         SD
12/20 4:30 ET Philadelphia -8 Washington        PHI
12/21 1:00 ET At Miami -6.5 Minnesota            MIA
12/21 1:00 ET Green Bay* -10.5 At Tampa Bay       GB
12/21 1:00 ET Detroit -8.5 At Chicago            DET
12/21 1:00 ET At New Orleans -6 Atlanta                NO
12/21 1:00 ET New England -10 NYJ                 NE            
12/21 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -3 KC                       PIT
12/21 1:00 ET At Carolina -3 Cleveland             CAR
12/21 1:00 ET Baltimore -5 Houston           HOU        
12/21 4:05 ET At St. Louis -5.5 NY Giants           NYG
12/21 4:25 ET Buffalo* -6 At Oakland           BUF
12/21 4:25 ET At Dallas -3 Indianapolis       IND
12/21 8:30 ET Seattle -8 At Arizona          AZ

Monday Night Football Point Spread
12/22 8:30 ET Denver* -3 At Cincinnati      DEN
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Re:New sports thread

Date Posted:18-12-2014 09:11:59Copy HTML

eh, the S/U column really came out crappy.
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