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alaskaone
  • From:USA

Date Posted:04-09-2018 03:17:00Copy HTML

Some happy news here and not really unexpected.  The US is not the school shooting nightmare we're portrayed to be.


The School Shootings That Weren't : NPR

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alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:04-09-2018 03:21:49Copy HTML

I suspect there may be some wailing and gnashing of teeth over the previous post so after allowing some time for the news to sink in... we're also not the mass shooting capital of the world, either.


https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/


Good news all around, yes? 

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 03:08:58Copy HTML

Never mind how many per incident, the US is worse than other first world nations in the total numbers of deaths.



https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-rates-of-firearm-related-deaths.html

       Nation            deaths per 100,000

1Honduras67.18
2Venezuela59.13
3Swaziland37.16
4Guatemala34.1
5Jamaica30.72
6El Salvador26.77
7Colombia25.94
8Brazil21.2
9Panama15.11
10Uruguay11.52
11United States10.54
12Montenegro8.91
13Philippines8.9
14South Africa8.3
15Paraguay7.76
16Mexico7.64
17Costa Rica7.5
18Argentina6.36
19Peru5.53
20Nicaragua4.68


"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:Argentina

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 01:24:11Copy HTML

AK1 said 'of the world'.  You added 'first world'.


Not the same things.  Some might call it 'spin'.

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
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  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 03:16:51Copy HTML

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https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/


Given the behavior of the US federal government domestically and abroad, I think I understand the animosity from folk like Yobbo and others.  What I don't understand is their eagerness to believe every lie about the people of the US.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #5
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 05:40:06Copy HTML

How refreshing! We are not the worst. And yet, an uneasy feeling about those South American countries we tinkered with, politically. Responsible?
What goes around, comes around.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 05:47:00Copy HTML

I ended up not going, but a friend was talking me out of going to Egypt a couple years ago, telling me how dangerous it was, and I responded with, Shoot, look how dangerous our schools are. I didn’t go because I lost confidence in Archeological Pathways, the tour company. The guide, Hosni....., had been recently kicked out of the country according to online news reports, at the time.
What goes around, comes around.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #7
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 06:03:06Copy HTML

How refreshing!  We are not the worst.  And yet, an uneasy feeling about those South American countries we tinkered with, politically.  Responsible?


Who can say with any certainty?  The behavior of unka sam across the globe has been heinous, at times.  The results of some of his dastardly actions has been awful, no one can really argue otherwise.  On the other hand, some of his actions have not been evil... even done some good.


What really cannot be argued against is that we, the people of the US, have made the world a better place.  That the US is among the best nations on earth... not because of unka sam but in spite of him.


Why some are so eager to put us in the same basket as the most vile of nations, most backward of peoples, defies reality to such an extent that their sanity must be questioned... or their sources of information.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 06:22:57Copy HTML

I’d go with survival skills and sources. Our outrageous conduct isn’t really ours so much as business interest influence on politicians and military arrogance and vengeance that screening failed to catch before damage was done. Perhaps it’s not endemic; one can hope.
What goes around, comes around.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:05-09-2018 08:57:48Copy HTML

I’d go with survival skills and sources. Our outrageous conduct isn’t really ours so much as business interest influence on politicians and military arrogance and vengeance that screening failed to catch before damage was done.  Perhaps it’s not endemic; one can hope.


And the most prominent businesses with their hands out to Uncle Sam are producers of arms and armaments.  Which is why America's effect on the world have been less than benign,

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:06-09-2018 11:59:04Copy HTML

I’d go with survival skills and sources. Our outrageous conduct isn’t really ours so much as business interest influence on politicians and military arrogance and vengeance that screening failed to catch before damage was done.  Perhaps it’s not endemic; one can hope.


And the most prominent businesses with their hands out to Uncle Sam are producers of arms and armaments.  Which is why America's effect on the world have been less than benign,


You're not wrong there.  


But you are wrong to think that's all that there is... in the same way I would be wrong to think all there is to N.Z. is sheep.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #11
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:06-09-2018 08:37:08Copy HTML

I am quick to blame business interests, but they are only doing whatever they can to make a profit, please stockholders. The real culprits are in Congress: They are the ones in position. We elect them, but they don’t always serve our interests. We watch them in frustration, trash campaign promises as their reality once elected corrupts whatever noble intent they may have had. What can we do? Again, legislate: If you can’t vote in a district then you can’t contribute to a campaign. We’re not electing representatives when money flows in from China or Russia; everyone seems to object to their participation. Why do we blithely accept money from across the country supporting campaigns in our voting districts.
What goes around, comes around.
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #12
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:06-09-2018 08:45:13Copy HTML

I like that idea.



Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #13
  • From:USA

Re:Not the school shooting capital of the world.

Date Posted:06-09-2018 11:06:43Copy HTML

What? Agreement again? My image of you Alaskaone must be dated. It’s always with trepidation that I read the posts that follow one of mine. You’ve always be kind to me even when you disagreed, so we’re good. Also, for years, I’ve been grateful to you and Hayekian for the classical libertarian views with which I filter most issues. They’ve been a good foundation.
What goes around, comes around.
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