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Nickel
  • From:USA

Date Posted:07-09-2018 11:58:03Copy HTML

Dangerous standoff developing in Syria between US and Russia

Sep. 07, 2018 - 2:56 - Syrian government troops backed by forces from Russia and Iran may be about to launch a final offensive designed to crush the remaining opposition in the country's seven-year civil war; the U.S. warns of dire consequences if the assault happens. National security correspondent Jennifer Griffin reports from The Pentagon.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5832255638001/?#sp=show-clips



Why are we involved?  Would we be there if Russia were not?


Is there a strategic reason why 2,000 American soldiers are stationed on bases in Syria?


What goes around, comes around.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:08-09-2018 07:25:51Copy HTML

Dangerous standoff developing in Syria between US and Russia

Sep. 07, 2018 - 2:56 - Syrian government troops backed by forces from Russia and Iran may be about to launch a final offensive designed to crush the remaining opposition in the country's seven-year civil war; the U.S. warns of dire consequences if the assault happens. National security correspondent Jennifer Griffin reports from The Pentagon.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5832255638001/?#sp=show-clips



Why are we involved?  Would we be there if Russia were not?


Is there a strategic reason why 2,000 American soldiers are stationed on bases in Syria?



Russia probably wouldn't be involved had the US kept out.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:USA

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:08-09-2018 09:28:08Copy HTML

Russia could be trusted? Georgia....history of hegemony. Not a return to union but an expanded Russia. Does Russia need to expand to be more self sufficient? Why can’t we be friends? We’re allies when it comes to war, but Kruschev said they would bury us. Can’t unring that bell. I remember the black and white news film of him raging against us. Of course they kept showing it then, but once in awhile I see it or am reminded. I guess they’re gangsters now more than superior athletes, ballerinas, and authors. We can probably take them, land of criminals that we are. Pity the countries between us that are trying to resolve civil wars. 70 years with a DMZ in Korea, the longest war, ever. The list is long and shameful.
What goes around, comes around.
Segovia_del_Prado Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:USA

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:09-09-2018 03:21:03Copy HTML

perhaps O'Kenyan shouldn't have stirred up the hornet's nest in the first place on behalf of his friends in the muslim brotherhood.
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:09-09-2018 07:21:04Copy HTML

Obama really did have faults, mostly in that he didn't stand up to the M.I.C. and thus the wars in the Middle East escalated and America did what the Israelis and Saudis wanted.  H Clinton was worse - she really loved death and distruction.

Trump was far less keen.

However the warmongers have helped ISIS et al manufacture chem weapons and will probably use them and blame the Syrian government.

Russia's role has been to help oppose violations like this..

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:10-09-2018 01:18:22Copy HTML

Syria and Russia spent the last two weeks trying to persuade the West that the terrorists/revolutionaries were planning a chemical attack that would then be blamed on the Syrian government. The West spent the weekend warning of Assad having approved the use of chlorine gas.
lillia3 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:10-09-2018 06:01:37Copy HTML

There is no proof that Assad has ever used chemical weapons,  Assad would not dare risk bringing on attacks by NATO and see his country destroyed as was done to Libya.  Nor does Syria need to as it has much better weapons than chlorine gas makes. The final OPCW report on the supposed attack last April concluded, no sarin was used and no confirmation that an attack actually took place.

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Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #7
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:12-09-2018 02:07:46Copy HTML

Syria and Russia spent the last two weeks trying to persuade the West that the terrorists/revolutionaries were planning a chemical attack that would then be blamed on the Syrian government. The West spent the weekend warning of Assad having approved the use of chlorine gas.


Who do you think is less dishonest?  

As Lillia says Assad would be crazy to give NATO a reason to attack Syria.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Poor Syria: Russia and the United States are at it again on foreign soil

Date Posted:13-09-2018 10:37:25Copy HTML

A little history......


The U.S. government may be considering military action in response to chemical strikes near Damascus. But a generation ago, America’s military and intelligence communities knew about and did nothing to stop a series of nerve gas attacks far more devastating than anything Syria has seen, Foreign Policy has learned.

In 1988, during the waning days of Iraq’s war with Iran, the United States learned through satellite imagery that Iran was about to gain a major strategic advantage by exploiting a hole in Iraqi defenses. U.S. intelligence officials conveyed the location of the Iranian troops to Iraq, fully aware that Hussein’s military would attack with chemical weapons, including sarin, a lethal nerve agent.

The intelligence included imagery and maps about Iranian troop movements, as well as the locations of Iranian logistics facilities and details about Iranian air defenses. The Iraqis used mustard gas and sarin prior to four major offensives in early 1988 that relied on U.S. satellite imagery, maps, and other intelligence. These attacks helped to tilt the war in Iraq’s favor and bring Iran to the negotiating table, and they ensured that the Reagan administration’s long-standing policy of securing an Iraqi victory would succeed. But they were also the last in a series of chemical strikes stretching back several years that the Reagan administration knew about and didn’t disclose.

U.S. officials have long denied acquiescing to Iraqi chemical attacks, insisting that Hussein’s government never announced he was going to use the weapons. But retired Air Force Col. Rick Francona, who was a military attaché in Baghdad during the 1988 strikes, paints a different picture.

“The Iraqis never told us that they intended to use nerve gas. They didn’t have to. We already knew,” he told Foreign Policy.

According to recently declassified CIA documents and interviews with former intelligence officials like Francona, the U.S. had firm evidence of Iraqi chemical attacks beginning in 1983. At the time, Iran was publicly alleging that illegal chemical attacks were carried out on its forces, and was building a case to present to the United Nations. But it lacked the evidence implicating Iraq, much of which was contained in top secret reports and memoranda sent to the most senior intelligence officials in the U.S. government. The CIA declined to comment for this story.

In contrast to today’s wrenching debate over whether the United States should intervene to stop alleged chemical weapons attacks by the Syrian government, the United States applied a cold calculus three decades ago to Hussein’s widespread use of chemical weapons against his enemies and his own people. The Reagan administration decided that it was better to let the attacks continue if they might turn the tide of the war. And even if they were discovered, the CIA wagered that international outrage and condemnation would be muted.


https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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