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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:18-06-2018 05:00:19Copy HTML

The risk of posting something like this is that, folk will read into this and not give it thought.  If they read it at all.

But, hopefully, some will find it informative, even if they do not agree.

Bottom line - Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.  He alone  can save us from our personal evil.   We have that on one side.   Everything else falls into a 2nd category, which can be broken down further - all of which are derived from man's sin.


https://answersingenesis.org/sanctity-of-life/other-religions-view-human-life-versus-gods-view-human-life/?utm_source=articlesmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2-banner-cta&utm_campaign=20180120&mc_cid=4a46b359e4&mc_eid=cab2b47150

There are ultimately only two religions in the world: God’s and man’s. God’s religion is the truth because God is truth. God revealed the truth to us in his Word. The Word of God, the 66 books of the Bible, is true by virtue of it coming from God who is the truth.

Man’s religion, on the other hand, uses the mind of man, which is naturally rebellious to God because of sin (Genesis 6:5; Psalm 14:1–4, 58:3; Isaiah 53:6; Romans 1:28; Ephesians 2:1–3), to attempt to supersede the Word of God. In simplistic terms, it means that man’s opinions are elevated to be greater than God’s Word. This is humanism in its broadest sense. So the two competing religions are biblical Christianity and human-based religions (humanism).

Humanism breaks into four types of religions that try to compete with biblical Christianity by elevating man’s ideas and demoting God’s Word. And these four break down into further variations. The four, with examples, are

  1. Materialistic religions—only material exists; no spiritual/nonmaterial. For example, secularism, naturalism, atheism, agnosticism, modernism, post-modernism, Epicureanism.

  2. Spiritual religions— also called mysticism or transcendent mysticism or Eastern religions where only spirit exists; no material things exist. You are merely deceived into thinking material things exist. These religions include Taoism, Hinduism, Jainism, New Age.

  3. Moralistic religions—suggested moral codes, but no absolutes. For example, paganism, Confucianism, witchcraft, Wicca, animism/spiritism, Shinto, ancestor mythologies, Buddhism.

  4. Counterfeits of Christianity—something that mimics Christianity, but deviates due to someone’s contrary claims. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Islam, Mormonism, Judaism.

Naturally these human-based religions break into further subdivisions. But because of the elevation of ideas and opinions of man as the truth, these religions deviate from the absolute truth of God’s Word.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #31
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 02:21:50Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Well, it is true that Tom is dishonest, and is himself in denial of his own personal evils, just like you, wale.  However, sometimes even dishonest people get something right.  Ironically, you are right about Tom, AND he is right about you.


In fact, we all are by nature evil.  Glad to see we all finally agree on something.


Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God


Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #32
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 08:57:21Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

FALSE  Yours is the illogical self-contradictory thinking.


Not at all. your post just shows evidence of your reverse view, pun intended.  LOL
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  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 12:56:24Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Well, it is true that Tom is dishonest, and is himself in denial of his own personal evils, just like you, wale.  However, sometimes even dishonest people get something right.  Ironically, you are right about Tom, AND he is right about you.

In fact, we all are by nature evil.  Glad to see we all finally agree on something.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

I did not agree with that.  Those are your beliefs.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #34
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 01:03:38Copy HTML

Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #35
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 01:50:59Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Reply to Tomlapaz

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Well, it is true that Tom is dishonest, and is himself in denial of his own personal evils, just like you, wale.  However, sometimes even dishonest people get something right.  Ironically, you are right about Tom, AND he is right about you.

In fact, we all are by nature evil.  Glad to see we all finally agree on something.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

I did not agree with that.  Those are your beliefs.


2 Corinthians 10:12 Good News Translation (GNT)

12 Of course we would not dare classify ourselves or compare ourselves with those who rate themselves so highly. How stupid they are! They make up their own standards to measure themselves by, and they judge themselves by their own standards!

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  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 02:02:47Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

LOL

Clean up your own house, Tom.  And, that goes to you too, wale.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 05:05:37Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Reply to Tomlapaz

Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

LOL

Clean up your own house, Tom.  And, that goes to you too, wale.


House IS clean only you can't see it as YOU are SO filthy. LOL
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  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 05:24:56Copy HTML

My house is quite clean.  It is the filth of your own mind and spirit that you are seeing, wale.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 08:16:23Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

My house is quite clean.  It is the filth of your own mind and spirit that you are seeing, wale.


The filth is the filth of your behavior in your inverted existence which you continue to engage in boguspumped.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #40
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 11:18:20Copy HTML

It's only your filthy mind there, wale.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #41
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:21-06-2018 11:19:00Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Reply to Tomlapaz

Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

LOL

Clean up your own house, Tom.  And, that goes to you too, wale.


We should always be seeking to clean up our own house.  That should be the priority.

But - does not mean ignore seeing another person hurting himself because he does not recognize his own house in disarray.


The advantage of trusting in Jesus - He is actively involved in preparing us for eternity.   Without Jesus, there is no hope for eternity - all we have is our sins.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #42
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:22-06-2018 09:42:50Copy HTML

The religion you subscribe to was dreamed up by a variety of pre bronze age men who fantasised on subjects that science, or what passed for science of the day, did not have an idea.  These fantasies were shared by many people of the Middle East, Egyptians, Mesopotamians and Leventine people. The fact that you still believe this nonsense might be seen as intriguing but essentially it means you are discarding science and philosophy of several hundred generations for the maunderings of primitives. 
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #43
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:22-06-2018 10:03:08Copy HTML

Yes, you have repeated that dogma before.   Other sheep believe that also.

But, believing in dogma like that does not mean its true,  Yobbo.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #44
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:23-06-2018 09:14:22Copy HTML

It is observation based on history and documents from the period.  The various (fairy) tales that predate the biblical account but show aspects cribbed by the Jews give a starting point.
Face it, your religion is based on fantasies of a variety of primitives.  If there is a guiding hand in creation, it was operating over a far greater timeline than the bible relates.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #45
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:23-06-2018 09:26:53Copy HTML

And repeating more dogma you learned contributes to your position how?

I think if you chose to be honest with yourself, you would simply say that you don't like what the scriptures have to say.


Actually, we don't even need to know the scriptures, btw, to know God exists, and that each of us has an innate evil we cannot get rid of.

The scriptures basically offer an explanation of why we are what we are, and what can be done about it.   You reject the scriptures, you are still stuck with this innate evil that you can't rid yourself of.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #46
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:23-06-2018 09:41:55Copy HTML

The scriptures basically offer an explanation of why we are what we are, and what can be done about it.    

They may describe what some people are like but don't give any reasons for why others behave the way they do.  And they certainly don't give any remedies.


You reject the scriptures, you are still stuck with this innate evil that you can't rid yourself of.

I don't reject the scriptures, I simply reason that they were written for Middle Eastern people a couple of millennia ago.  I can make the decision that slavery is evil even though the bible says it is fine.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #47
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:00:14Copy HTML

They give a reason why we all behave as we do.  And you reject the scriptures - and of course you rationalize as to why you are doing it.


But again, as addressing this is the root of the problem - we don't even  need to know the scriptures, btw, to know God exists, and that each of us has an innate evil we cannot get rid of.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 03:27:52Copy HTML

I don't reject the scriptures, I simply reason that they were written for Middle Eastern people a couple of millennia ago.  I can make the decision that slavery is evil even though the bible says it is fine.  You tell me what you think of the institution of slavery since god's book says it is fine.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #49
  • From:USA

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 03:34:05Copy HTML

Interesting - you are bothered by the thought that you reject the Scriptures. 

The Scriptures clearly teach that Jesus rose physically from the dead.   Do you agree with the scriptures, or do you instead reject what they teach there?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 06:43:22Copy HTML

The story of Jesus is bunkum. When I said I accept the scriptures I meant that I understand a lot of simpletons take it seriously.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #51
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 06:56:35Copy HTML

Well, like I said - you were not using the word in the same way as it was put forth.

Surely you knew that.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #52
  • From:New_zealand

Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 07:58:25Copy HTML

Of course I do.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #53
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 02:49:03Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

The story of Jesus is bunkum. When I said I accept the scriptures I meant that I understand a lot of simpletons take it seriously.

Virtually all New Testament scholars and Near East historians, applying the standard criteria of historical investigation, find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain although they differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the details of his life that have been described in the gospels. While scholars have criticized Jesus scholarship for religious bias and lack of methodological soundness with very few exceptions such critics generally do support the historicity of Jesus and reject the Christ myth theory  that Jesus never existed


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Sources


skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #54
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 05:35:13Copy HTML

 Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

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So if I had religious help, I wouldn't be evil?  LOL. 

Here's the thing, no fairy tale written by man meant to make me feel guilty for being something I am not is going to work on smart people....like me.

I know I am good and not evil.  I know I have no need of your fake religion to prove it to myself.  I can stand on my own two feet and do good things in this life without your book of fables.

It's easy really.

What is it like to be so weak that you need ancient stories of fear and guilt to keep you in line?

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #55
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 06:34:00Copy HTML

Reply to skwanderer

 Those in denial about a medical condition they have are less likely to seek medical help on it.

In the same way, those who are in denial about their sinful self are less likely to see spiritual help.

____


So if I had religious help, I wouldn't be evil?  LOL. 

Here's the thing, no fairy tale written by man meant to make me feel guilty for being something I am not is going to work on smart people....like me.

I know I am good and not evil.  I know I have no need of your fake religion to prove it to myself.  I can stand on my own two feet and do good things in this life without your book of fables.

It's easy really.

What is it like to be so weak that you need ancient stories of fear and guilt to keep you in line?


YOU see here skdoodle, this is where you break with Einstein and Kaku. THEY say they don't KNOW if God , or the presence that brought about our existence is a fairy tale and yet YOU, a much less accomplished individual and less intelligent than those two, flat out make a pronouncement that neither Kaku OR Einstein make. At LEAST they recognize that their minds have limits and aren't so presumptuous as to eliminate a hand behind the design , whereas YOU a more limited and lesser individual do.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #56
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 07:33:08Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

Of course I do.

Then does not that make you reply dishonest?
Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #57
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 07:48:26Copy HTML

 YOU see here skdoodle, this is where you break with Einstein and Kaku. THEY say they don't KNOW if God , or the presence that brought about our existence is a fairy tale and yet YOU, a much less accomplished individual and less intelligent than those two

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Speaking of less intelligent...hey Wale.  I said our religions are fairy tales written by man lying dingbat.  This does not mean there is no God.  In fact, that is exactly what Einstein believed.  There may be a god, but our religions certainly don't have it right.

Run along and try again idiot.

Fucking moron.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 09:21:05Copy HTML

Reply to skwanderer

 YOU see here skdoodle, this is where you break with Einstein and Kaku. THEY say they don't KNOW if God , or the presence that brought about our existence is a fairy tale and yet YOU, a much less accomplished individual and less intelligent than those two

___

Speaking of less intelligent...hey Wale.  I said our religions are fairy tales written by man lying dingbat.  This does not mean there is no God.  In fact, that is exactly what Einstein believed.  There may be a god, but our religions certainly don't have it right.

Run along and try again idiot.

Fucking moron.

Einstein said our human minds were TOO limited to grasp the specifics of the hand behind the design and in YOUR case he was correct you dope.

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:24-06-2018 10:08:26Copy HTML

 He was being philosophical idiot. 

Einstein reiterated this belief many times:

In it, Einstein said that "the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

"For me," he added, "the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

His letter is there for you to read....you dope

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24598856/ns/us_news-faith/t/einstein-letter-calls-bible-pretty-childish/#.WzAWAo0m5eU

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:25-06-2018 12:46:02Copy HTML

Reply to skwanderer

 He was being philosophical idiot. 

Einstein reiterated this belief many times:

In it, Einstein said that "the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

"For me," he added, "the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

His letter is there for you to read....you dope

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24598856/ns/us_news-faith/t/einstein-letter-calls-bible-pretty-childish/#.WzAWAo0m5eU


Boy you are really DUMB, just plain DUMB and STUPID. I never said Einstein believed in the Christian faith BUT he did express a conclusion that all this did not arrange itself coincidentally. there in his letter and Kaku states as well abut Einstein. is kaku lying or limited?


YOU are STILL stupid and can't read:

In an interview published in George Sylvester Viereck's book Glimpses of the Great (1930), Einstein responded to a question about whether or not he defined himself as a pantheist. He explained:

...It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. .... The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Personal_God



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