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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:18-06-2018 05:00:19

The risk of posting something like this is that, folk will read into this and not give it thought.  If they read it at all.

But, hopefully, some will find it informative, even if they do not agree.

Bottom line - Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.  He alone  can save us from our personal evil.   We have that on one side.   Everything else falls into a 2nd category, which can be broken down further - all of which are derived from man's sin.


https://answersingenesis.org/sanctity-of-life/other-religions-view-human-life-versus-gods-view-human-life/?utm_source=articlesmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2-banner-cta&utm_campaign=20180120&mc_cid=4a46b359e4&mc_eid=cab2b47150

There are ultimately only two religions in the world: God’s and man’s. God’s religion is the truth because God is truth. God revealed the truth to us in his Word. The Word of God, the 66 books of the Bible, is true by virtue of it coming from God who is the truth.

Man’s religion, on the other hand, uses the mind of man, which is naturally rebellious to God because of sin (Genesis 6:5; Psalm 14:1–4, 58:3; Isaiah 53:6; Romans 1:28; Ephesians 2:1–3), to attempt to supersede the Word of God. In simplistic terms, it means that man’s opinions are elevated to be greater than God’s Word. This is humanism in its broadest sense. So the two competing religions are biblical Christianity and human-based religions (humanism).

Humanism breaks into four types of religions that try to compete with biblical Christianity by elevating man’s ideas and demoting God’s Word. And these four break down into further variations. The four, with examples, are

  1. Materialistic religions—only material exists; no spiritual/nonmaterial. For example, secularism, naturalism, atheism, agnosticism, modernism, post-modernism, Epicureanism.

  2. Spiritual religions— also called mysticism or transcendent mysticism or Eastern religions where only spirit exists; no material things exist. You are merely deceived into thinking material things exist. These religions include Taoism, Hinduism, Jainism, New Age.

  3. Moralistic religions—suggested moral codes, but no absolutes. For example, paganism, Confucianism, witchcraft, Wicca, animism/spiritism, Shinto, ancestor mythologies, Buddhism.

  4. Counterfeits of Christianity—something that mimics Christianity, but deviates due to someone’s contrary claims. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Islam, Mormonism, Judaism.

Naturally these human-based religions break into further subdivisions. But because of the elevation of ideas and opinions of man as the truth, these religions deviate from the absolute truth of God’s Word.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 04:09:31

 I dont deny a "hand".  I agree the bible is childish fairy tales like Einstein and agree with both there is no proof of God.  End of story mentally ill man.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 02:05:11

Reply to skdummy

 I dont deny a "hand".  I agree the bible is childish fairy tales like Einstein and agree with both there is no proof of God.  End of story mentally ill man.


Einstein doesn't say there is NO proof and you DO deny a hand. STOP lying to yourself at least. Einstein says:

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

 YOU don't even see that. THAT is NOT the same, except in your disturbed, continually STUPID and immature thinking.


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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 03:22:18

LOL  It would seem that the mentally ill man does not understand what the words "end of story" mean.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "[i]If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn.,[/i]" -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:17:31

Reply to Boguspumped

LOL  It would seem that the mentally ill man does not understand what the words "end of story" mean.  LOL


It seems that YOU rely on skdoodle to tell YOU what to intake and not. LOL
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:27:40

 Wale still lying I see.  A lot of evangelicals spend their life lying.

In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]


"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:30:20

Reply to skdummy

 Wale still lying I see.  A lot of evangelicals spend their life lying.

In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]



THESE are Einstein's words as well, which escapes you for obvious reasons.

Einstein doesn't say there is NO proof and you DO deny a hand. STOP lying to yourself at least. Einstein says:

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

 YOU don't even see that. THAT is NOT the same, except in your disturbed, continually STUPID and immature thinking.

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:34:55

 In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]

___

I too see an amazing universe just like Einstein.  But that is not proof of God.  Einstein agrees with me.  There is incredible power in the Universe, but no proof of any God.  I too am agnostic, just like Einstein.

You, of course, are mentally ill.


"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:37:52

Reply to skdummy

 In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]

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I too see an amazing universe just like Einstein.  But that is not proof of God.  Einstein agrees with me.  There is incredible power in the Universe, but no proof of any God.  I too am agnostic, just like Einstein.

You, of course, are mentally ill.



Now you are changing your tune to attempt to align yourself with Einstein and Kaku, which you don't. THESE are Einstein's words as well, which escapes you for obvious reasons.

Einstein doesn't say there is NO proof and you DO deny a hand. STOP lying to yourself at least. Einstein says:

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

 YOU don't even see that. THAT is NOT the same, except in your disturbed, continually STUPID and immature thinking.

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:39:19

 In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]

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I too see an amazing universe just like Einstein.  But that is not proof of God.  Einstein agrees with me.  There is incredible power in the Universe, but no proof of any God.  I too am agnostic, just like Einstein.

You, of course, are mentally ill.


"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:42:18

Reply to skdummy

 In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an
agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]

___

I too see an amazing universe just like Einstein.  But that is not proof of God.  Einstein agrees with me.  There is incredible power in the Universe, but no proof of any God.  I too am agnostic, just like Einstein.

You, of course, are mentally ill.



Now you are changing your tune to attempt to align yourself with Einstein and Kaku, which you don't. THESE are Einstein's words as well, which escapes you for obvious reasons.

Einstein doesn't say there is NO proof and you DO deny a hand. STOP lying to yourself at least. Einstein says:

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

 YOU don't even see that. THAT is NOT the same, except in your disturbed, continually STUPID and immature thinking.

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:44:03

 In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."[5]

___

I too see an amazing universe just like Einstein.  But that is not proof of God.  Einstein agrees with me.  There is incredible power in the Universe, but no proof of any God.  I too am agnostic, just like Einstein.

You, of course, are mentally ill.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:44:44

 "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

Albert Einstein

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:50:01

Reply to skdummy

 "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

Albert Einstein


"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

Albert Einstein

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:56:02

 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  I agree with him that the Universe is amazing and we don't understand it and there may be a god, but there is no proof of God, making Einstein and myself both agnostics.

How do you feel about Einstein, Kaku, and Freud all agreeing with me about evolution and homosexuality.

I think it bothers you, doesn't it?

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 06:59:44

Reply to skdummy



 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  I agree with him that the Universe is amazing and we don't understand it and there may be a god, but there is no proof of God, making Einstein and myself both agnostics.

How do you feel about Einstein, Kaku, and Freud all agreeing with me about evolution and homosexuality.

I think it bothers you, doesn't it?


You have said there is NO reality of God , different than what Einstein and Kaku say.

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 07:02:55

 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  End of debate.  Einstein stated clearly in the year of his death that he was an agnostic.  He, like me, agrees the universe is amazing, but there is no proof of God.

Isnt it great being like Einstein?  You should try it Wale.  You could pretend to be smart, if only for a moment.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 07:04:35

Reply to skwanderer

 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  End of debate.  Einstein stated clearly in the year of his death that he was an agnostic.  He, like me, agrees the universe is amazing, but there is no proof of God.

Isnt it great being like Einstein?  You should try it Wale.  You could pretend to be smart, if only for a moment.


You AREN'T in alignment with Einstein and would KNOW that IF you could read.

You have said there is NO reality of God , different than what Einstein and Kaku say.

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 07:33:30

 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  End of debate.  Einstein stated clearly in the year of his death that he was an agnostic.  He, like me, agrees the universe is amazing, but there is no proof of God.

Isnt it great being like Einstein?  You should try it Wale.  You could pretend to be smart, if only for a moment.

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You aren't in alignment with Einstein Wale.  Einstein is a self-professed agnostic.  He thinks your bible is childish.  He agrees with me. 

 Einstein and skwanderer are very smart.


"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:06-07-2018 11:14:33

Reply to skwanderer

 Einstein is an agnostic and agrees with me.  End of debate.  Einstein stated clearly in the year of his death that he was an agnostic.  He, like me, agrees the universe is amazing, but there is no proof of God.

Isnt it great being like Einstein?  You should try it Wale.  You could pretend to be smart, if only for a moment.

____


You aren't in alignment with Einstein Wale.  Einstein is a self-professed agnostic.  He thinks your bible is childish.  He agrees with me. 

 Einstein and skwanderer are very smart.



You AREN'T in alignment with Einstein and would KNOW that IF you could read.

You have said there is NO reality of God , different than what Einstein and Kaku say.

"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

Albert Einstein

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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 12:10:52

 

You like to highlight our differences, I like to highlight our similarities.   We all three agree there is no proof of God, I very much agree with Einstein that your bible is childish fable, and I agree with both that evolution is real.   Pretty good company.

Oh wait, lets throw your other idol who you love to quote, Freud, into the mix. Freud regarded God as an illusion, based on the infantile need for a powerful father figure; religion, necessary to help us restrain violent impulses earlier in the development of civilization, can now be set aside in favor of reason and science.

The following explains a lot about Wale.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 01:45:26

Reply to skdummy

 

You like to highlight our differences, I like to highlight our similarities.   We all three agree there is no proof of God, I very much agree with Einstein that your bible is childish fable, and I agree with both that evolution is real.   Pretty good company.

Oh wait, lets throw your other idol who you love to quote, Freud, into the mix. Freud regarded God as an illusion, based on the infantile need for a powerful father figure; religion, necessary to help us restrain violent impulses earlier in the development of civilization, can now be set aside in favor of reason and science.

The following explains a lot about Wale.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion


I used Freud as an example of the PSYCHIATRIC COMMUNITY listing homosexuality as a disorder. YOU display heavy childish tendencies repeatedly and can't seem to break away from them. You also do NOT agree with Einstein or Kaku as has been pointed out over and over , which you act as if those didn't exist BECAUSE they ARE more accomplished and greater minds than you will ever be. THAT really is what bothers your insecure self.
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:05:27

 Freud never believed homosexuality was a disorder.  He believes you have a disorder however.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:08:44

Reply to skdummy

 Freud never believed homosexuality was a disorder.  He believes you have a disorder however.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion


Freud once wrote that homosexuality was "produced by a certain arrest of sexual development."
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:34:47

 Freud never believed homosexuality was a disorder.  He believes you have a disorder however.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion

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"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

Albert Einstein

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:39:26

Reply to skdummy

 Freud never believed homosexuality was a disorder.  He believes you have a disorder however.

In Obsessive Actions and Religious Practices (1907), Freud's earliest writing about religion, where he suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis."  Freud, Sigmind Totem and Taboo (New York: W.W. Norton & Co. 1950) p. xi ISBN 0-393-00143-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud%27s_views_on_religion

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"...We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how.....We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. ..."

Albert Einstein


Freud once wrote that homosexuality was "produced by a certain arrest of sexual development."
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:39:33

 An "arrest of sexual development" is not a mental disorder of any kind.  He also disagreed with that position later in his life.  Freud believed that homosexuality ("inversion" as he called it) could be the natural outcome of normal development in some people. He noted that homosexuality could occur in individuals who had no other signs of deviation and no impairment in their functioning. However, he did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness, by which he meant a symptom arising from psychic conflict. Instead, he saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct. Freud believed in a constitutional bisexuality: that in every individual there was a certain component of masculine (active) as well as feminine (passive) tendencies. Although bisexual tendencies were universal, Freud believed some people were constitutionally endowed with more of one tendency than the other.

http://www.aglp.org/gap/1_history/

Isnt it time you got upset with the facts I present and call me juvenile?

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:41:20

Reply to skdummy

 An "arrest of sexual development" is not a mental disorder of any kind.  He also disagreed with that position later in his life.  Freud believed that homosexuality ("inversion" as he called it) could be the natural outcome of normal development in some people. He noted that homosexuality could occur in individuals who had no other signs of deviation and no impairment in their functioning. However, he did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness, by which he meant a symptom arising from psychic conflict. Instead, he saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct. Freud believed in a constitutional bisexuality: that in every individual there was a certain component of masculine (active) as well as feminine (passive) tendencies. Although bisexual tendencies were universal, Freud believed some people were constitutionally endowed with more of one tendency than the other.

http://www.aglp.org/gap/1_history/

Isnt it time you got upset with the facts I present and call me juvenile?


arrest of sexual development means just that, the process hasn't come to it's full development.
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:48:13

 No it does not.  "Full development" is arbitrary and different in every individual.  Full development may  Freud believed that homosexuality ("inversion" as he called it) could be the natural outcome of normal development in some people. He noted that homosexuality could occur in individuals who had no other signs of deviation and no impairment in their functioning. However, he did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness, by which he meant a symptom arising from psychic conflict. Instead, he saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct. Freud believed in a constitutional bisexuality: that in every individual there was a certain component of masculine (active) as well as feminine (passive) tendencies. Although bisexual tendencies were universal, Freud believed some people were constitutionally endowed with more of one tendency than the other.

http://www.aglp.org/gap/1_history/

Isnt it time you got upset with the facts I present and call me juvenile?

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 02:49:52

Reply to skdummy 

 No it does not.  "Full development" is arbitrary and different in every individual.  Full development may  Freud believed that homosexuality ("inversion" as he called it) could be the natural outcome of normal development in some people. He noted that homosexuality could occur in individuals who had no other signs of deviation and no impairment in their functioning. However, he did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness, by which he meant a symptom arising from psychic conflict. Instead, he saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct. Freud believed in a constitutional bisexuality: that in every individual there was a certain component of masculine (active) as well as feminine (passive) tendencies. Although bisexual tendencies were universal, Freud believed some people were constitutionally endowed with more of one tendency than the other.

http://www.aglp.org/gap/1_history/

Isnt it time you got upset with the facts I present and call me juvenile?


arrest of sexual development means just that, the process hasn't come to it's full development.
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Re:Really are only 2 religions in the world: God’s and man’s

Date Posted:07-07-2018 03:02:48

 No it does not. read Freud you fucking idiot.

natural outcome of normal development in some people. He noted that homosexuality could occur in individuals who had no other signs of deviation and no impairment in their functioning. However, he did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness. he saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct. Freud believed in a constitutional bisexuality: that in every individual there was a certain component of masculine (active) as well as feminine (passive) tendencies. Although bisexual tendencies were universal, Freud believed some people were constitutionally endowed with more of one tendency than the other.

"we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function produced by a certain arrest of sexual development" means that it is a natural variation in development just like you cant run as fast as other people....it doesn't mean you are inferior. Freud never felt it meant you are inferior.  He went out of his way to talk about gays like Michaelangelo and DaVinci of examples of exception people with no inferior "tendencies"

On the other hand, he felt you were a psychotic.

Freud on the devoutly religious:

Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind: neurosis, with its compulsive behavior, is "an individual religiosity", and religion, with its repetitive rituals, is a "universal obsessional neurosis.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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