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  • From:USA

Date Posted:27-12-2018 01:44:48Copy HTML

Reflecting on 2018



Whether you are Republican, Democrat, or Independent, 2018 was, in many ways, a melancholy year.


There are easy arguments why we should be happy and comfortable with the year. We are not engaged in any major warfare. Our economy is growing at a good rate. Unemployment is low, and wages are rising. These are important goals we always seek and rarely successfully align together.


But, for so many of us, something important is missing. It is a nagging concern about the direction of the nation, and the definition of what values now represent us and bind us together as a people. And more, on a pragmatic level, an awareness that we are not solving the problems we own, the issues we have identified.


In a school in Indianapolis, where the building, the desks, the computers, are all new and shiny, they are out of paper to make copies. The paper makes copies of student workbooks rather than purchasing those workbooks (copywrite issues aside) to save money. But the budget will not allow the purchase of a new skid of paper until late February, 2019. So, there are no workbooks.


In states across the nation our highways and bridges are old and damaged and dangerous, but we have no plans to fix them because the richest nation in history cannot afford to maintain the roads, the airports, the bridges and the ports.


Healthcare is more expensive here than any other nation, but fewer people have affordable healthcare than most developed nations. Our congress seems wholly enable to rein in these costs or change the delivery system to something that gets better results at fairer prices.


Too many working Americans, largely in rural areas and poorer urban communities, have been left behind, their factories closed, their jobs gone and not replaced. People in these areas long for the return of the past; they wish for the small town drugstore, the 10 cent store, the local butcher shop. Instead, they drive 40 miles to the Walmart store and park in the 20-acre parking lot.


But there is no promise that can be kept to restore what has been lost. The only promise is that everything will change, that someday Walmart may take the path of Sears, or GE the path of Kodak.


A great American philosopher, pragmatist Richard Rorty, made the profound political assessment that, “we ought to do what works.” He was right, we should identify our problems, debate solutions, then simply act to do what works.


In Indianapolis they should order paper when it is needed and fix the budget glitch that caused the problem.


In states that need infrastructure the federal and state and local governments should identify the most crucial improvements needed, prioritize funding, and get to work addressing the potholes and the rusted bridges. For, as Mayor Daily of Chicago once said, “If you can’t fix the potholes, you can’t run a city.”


Our healthcare simply does not work. You don’t need research or data to know this…we all know it, from physicians, to administrators, to patients, we know what we are doing is deeply flawed. It is time to stop the political posturing and Do What Works.


Finally, beyond the pragmatics we need a national vision, and we need it now. The current president is wholly unable to think in broad social terms to understand that making America great is more about our compassion, our tolerance, and our values, than it is about any zero sum “deal.”


We need to once again be the City Upon the Hill, the Thousand Points of Light, the best we can be as a people, together.


Op Ed

Drjim893

12/27/18

 

 


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  • From:USA

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:27-12-2018 12:01:08Copy HTML

We dont need to be the city on the hill. That's vanity

Unlike a Lie, the Truth requires no eloquence.
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  • From:Argentina

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:27-12-2018 01:37:25Copy HTML

Whether you are Republican, Democrat, or Independent, 2018 was, in many ways, a melancholy year.

Not really.  Everyone I know has been quite happy and upbeat.

There are easy arguments why we should be happy and comfortable with the year. We are not engaged in any major warfare. Our economy is growing at a good rate. Unemployment is low, and wages are rising. These are important goals we always seek and rarely successfully align together.


But, for so many of us, something important is missing. It is a nagging concern about the direction of the nation, and the definition of what values now represent us and bind us together as a people. And more, on a pragmatic level, an awareness that we are not solving the problems we own, the issues we have identified.

You just finished telling us the direction of the country is in a rarely successful alignment, Jim.  Your problem, Jim, is that you socialists have identified and imposed upon America, as OUR values, YOUR VALUES.  You don't speak for anyone but yourself.  

In a school in Indianapolis, where the building, the desks, the computers, are all new and shiny, they are out of paper to make copies. The paper makes copies of student workbooks rather than purchasing those workbooks (copywrite issues aside) to save money. But the budget will not allow the purchase of a new skid of paper until late February, 2019. So, there are no workbooks.

Have you considered taking a moment away from complaint and a couple of hundred bucks to buy some paper and ship it to the school?

In states across the nation our highways and bridges are old and damaged and dangerous, but we have no plans to fix them because the richest nation in history cannot afford to maintain the roads, the airports, the bridges and the ports.

How many more decades are socialists going to use up on this point, Jim?  Do you remember when a whole bunch of money was allocated for exactly what you noted, and it instead went to unions who spent their pensioners money getting socialists elected?

Healthcare is more expensive here than any other nation, but fewer people have affordable healthcare than most developed nations. Our congress seems wholly enable to rein in these costs or change the delivery system to something that gets better results at fairer prices.

We have hospitals that deny nobody emergency care, Jim.  People from other countries come HERE for health needs, so we can't be all bad.

Too many working Americans, largely in rural areas and poorer urban communities, have been left behind, their factories closed, their jobs gone and not replaced. People in these areas long for the return of the past; they wish for the small town drugstore, the 10 cent store, the local butcher shop. Instead, they drive 40 miles to the Walmart store and park in the 20-acre parking lot.

And socialists have been busy making sure they stay closed while they advance their ecological, climate change horse manure, and regulate them to the point they can't reopen.   I thought, Jim, that poor people, especially in urban communities, are so strapped they can't get anywhere to obtain photo i.d., and they cannot get to polling places thus they are 'disenfranchised'.  But now you tell us they drive 40 miles to Walmart.

Make up your mind.  

But there is no promise that can be kept to restore what has been lost. The only promise is that everything will change, that someday Walmart may take the path of Sears, or GE the path of Kodak.

That's a good little socialist.  Wish for the demise of business.

A great American philosopher, pragmatist Richard Rorty, made the profound political assessment that, “we ought to do what works.” He was right, we should identify our problems, debate solutions, then simply act to do what works.

Our agenda's differ, Jim.  What you might identify as a problem, millions of others won't see as one, and vice-a-versa.  And we don't know what will work until we try different things.  For instance, a wall in conjunction with other security steps.

In Indianapolis they should order paper when it is needed and fix the budget glitch that caused the problem.

Maybe in Indianapolis they should look at the administraters and get rid of the dead weight.  Look at school employees, school board members.  That's the best place to start.  Educator's who don't educate.

In states that need infrastructure the federal and state and local governments should identify the most crucial improvements needed, prioritize funding, and get to work addressing the potholes and the rusted bridges. For, as Mayor Daily of Chicago once said, “If you can’t fix the potholes, you can’t run a city.”

Maybe if states didn't have to spend huge portions of their budgets on welfare and illegal immigrants there'd be a little more to go around.

Our healthcare simply does not work. You don’t need research or data to know this…we all know it, from physicians, to administrators, to patients, we know what we are doing is deeply flawed. It is time to stop the political posturing and Do What Works.

I'll alert everyone I know who has been successfully treated in the last decade, Jim.  They'll be devastated.   This is probably one of those areas where our 'values' will diverge, Jim.  What will work for me is if the government, and people like you, keep out of my healthcare.  

Finally, beyond the pragmatics we need a national vision, and we need it now. The current president is wholly unable to think in broad social terms to understand that making America great is more about our compassion, our tolerance, and our values, than it is about any zero sum “deal.”

Standard issue virtue signaling.  You never fail us.

We need to once again be the City Upon the Hill, the Thousand Points of Light, the best we can be as a people, together.


Sound of one hand clapping.............. 

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
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  • From:USA

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:27-12-2018 05:18:47Copy HTML

We dont need to be the city on the hill. That's vanity ____ Set your bar low enough and satisfaction is yours.
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  • From:USA

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:27-12-2018 05:54:18Copy HTML

Jim:
Whether you are Republican, Democrat, or Independent, 2018 was, in many ways, a melancholy year.

Skrump:
Not really.  Everyone I know has been quite happy and upbeat.

Yes really.  Your personal anecdote, Skrump, is not indicative of the overall mood of the nation.  (J-1, S-0)

Jim:
There are easy arguments why we should be happy and comfortable with the year. We are not engaged in any major warfare. Our economy is growing at a good rate. Unemployment is low, and wages are rising. These are important goals we always seek and rarely successfully align together.


But, for so many of us, something important is missing. It is a nagging concern about the direction of the nation, and the definition of what values now represent us and bind us together as a people. And more, on a pragmatic level, an awareness that we are not solving the problems we own, the issues we have identified.

Skrump:
You just finished telling us the direction of the country is in a rarely successful alignment, Jim.  Your problem, Jim, is that you socialists have identified and imposed upon America, as OUR values, YOUR VALUES.  You don't speak for anyone but yourself.  

An ad hominem based on a misreading, likely intentional, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-2, S-0)

Jim:
In a school in Indianapolis, where the building, the desks, the computers, are all new and shiny, they are out of paper to make copies. The paper makes copies of student workbooks rather than purchasing those workbooks (copywrite issues aside) to save money. But the budget will not allow the purchase of a new skid of paper until late February, 2019. So, there are no workbooks.

Skrump:
Have you considered taking a moment away from complaint and a couple of hundred bucks to buy some paper and ship it to the school?

A trite personal criticism does not a rebuttal make.  (J-3, S-0)

Jim:
In states across the nation our highways and bridges are old and damaged and dangerous, but we have no plans to fix them because the richest nation in history cannot afford to maintain the roads, the airports, the bridges and the ports.

Skrump:
How many more decades are socialists going to use up on this point, Jim?  Do you remember when a whole bunch of money was allocated for exactly what you noted, and it instead went to unions who spent their pensioners money getting socialists elected?

A generalized ad-hominem style attack on "socialists" based upon false or misrepresented information does not a rebuttal make.  (J-4, S-0)

Jim:
Healthcare is more expensive here than any other nation, but fewer people have affordable healthcare than most developed nations. Our congress seems wholly enable to rein in these costs or change the delivery system to something that gets better results at fairer prices.

Skrump:
We have hospitals that deny nobody emergency care, Jim.  People from other countries come HERE for health needs, so we can't be all bad.

A deflection to an argument that was not at all put forth, to wit: we are all bad, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-5, S-0)

Jim:
Too many working Americans, largely in rural areas and poorer urban communities, have been left behind, their factories closed, their jobs gone and not replaced. People in these areas long for the return of the past; they wish for the small town drugstore, the 10 cent store, the local butcher shop. Instead, they drive 40 miles to the Walmart store and park in the 20-acre parking lot.

Skrump:
And socialists have been busy making sure they stay closed while they advance their ecological, climate change horse manure, and regulate them to the point they can't reopen.   I thought, Jim, that poor people, especially in urban communities, are so strapped they can't get anywhere to obtain photo i.d., and they cannot get to polling places thus they are 'disenfranchised'.  But now you tell us they drive 40 miles to Walmart.

Make up your mind.  

A deflection using a small car load of utter bullshit, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-6, S-0)

Jim:
But there is no promise that can be kept to restore what has been lost. The only promise is that everything will change, that someday Walmart may take the path of Sears, or GE the path of Kodak.

Skrump:
That's a good little socialist.  Wish for the demise of business.

A bullshit ad homenim, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-7, S-0)

Jim:
A great American philosopher, pragmatist Richard Rorty, made the profound political assessment that, “we ought to do what works.” He was right, we should identify our problems, debate solutions, then simply act to do what works.

Skrump:
Our agenda's differ, Jim.  What you might identify as a problem, millions of others won't see as one, and vice-a-versa.  And we don't know what will work until we try different things.  For instance, a wall in conjunction with other security steps.

Though a bit marred by dismissive personal slight, the point is true enough.  Of course it could be just as likely that application and expansion of those other security steps would render a wall unneeded.  (J-7, S-1)

Jim:
In Indianapolis they should order paper when it is needed and fix the budget glitch that caused the problem.

Skrump:
Maybe in Indianapolis they should look at the administraters and get rid of the dead weight.  Look at school employees, school board members.  That's the best place to start.  Educator's who don't educate.

A deflection, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-8, S-1)

Jim:
In states that need infrastructure the federal and state and local governments should identify the most crucial improvements needed, prioritize funding, and get to work addressing the potholes and the rusted bridges. For, as Mayor Daily of Chicago once said, “If you can’t fix the potholes, you can’t run a city.”

Skrump:
Maybe if states didn't have to spend huge portions of their budgets on welfare and illegal immigrants there'd be a little more to go around.

Another 'maybe if' deflection, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-9, S-1)

Jim:
Our healthcare simply does not work. You don’t need research or data to know this…we all know it, from physicians, to administrators, to patients, we know what we are doing is deeply flawed. It is time to stop the political posturing and Do What Works.

Skrump:
I'll alert everyone I know who has been successfully treated in the last decade, Jim.  They'll be devastated.   This is probably one of those areas where our 'values' will diverge, Jim.  What will work for me is if the government, and people like you, keep out of my healthcare.  

Condescension, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-10, S-1)

Jim:
Finally, beyond the pragmatics we need a national vision, and we need it now. The current president is wholly unable to think in broad social terms to understand that making America great is more about our compassion, our tolerance, and our values, than it is about any zero sum “deal.”

Skrump:
Standard issue virtue signaling.  You never fail us.

Standard pointless squawk, does not a rebuttal make.  (J-11, S-1)

Jim:
We need to once again be the City Upon the Hill, the Thousand Points of Light, the best we can be as a people, together.


Skrump:
Sound of one hand clapping.............

The sound of yawning and laughter at the utterly failed attempt at a witty and clever retort.


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  • From:USA

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:27-12-2018 05:54:34Copy HTML

We dont need to be the city on the hill. That's vanity ____ Set your bar low enough and satisfaction is yours.


LOL.. If there's one thing a crusader hates more than anything, it's to be told they're unrealistic.

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  • From:Norway

Re:Reflecting on 2018

Date Posted:28-12-2018 05:21:19Copy HTML

A different sort of reflection I happened upon .......................some pretty neat pics


   

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