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alaskaone
  • From:USA

Date Posted:09-03-2018 11:43:09Copy HTML

I've been friends with a woman in South Africa since the 1980's so I kind of pay attention to what goes on there.  Her description of S.A. since the end of apartheid differs significantly from the media's depiction which shouldn't surprise anyone, really.

If you haven't heard, last week the government of south africa kicked the Boers off of their land.  The Boers are still being held responsible for any mortgage notes on the land that they no longer own but most of them have said, fuck off.

Generally speaking, when something like this happens, you can start the clock on the famine and genocide.  My friend isn't a farmer but she and her husband have faced relentless abuse and discrimination since the end of apartheid.  They left the country several times because her husband could not get a job because he's white.  They own, for the moment, a house so they returned from Tanzania because they got tired of malaria and they'd hoped things had settled down in S.A. during their absence.

It hasn't.

UPDATE: White South Africans face genocide...

Their eldest daughter got a job as an au pair in North Carolina, she arrives the end of this month so she's safe for a while.  The rest of them are stuck in S.A.  One of the reasons behind my sudden interest in cryptocurrency is the possibility it offers for me to get them money fast hopefully without governmental interference. 

US history in regard to refugees of genocide is spotty, at best, so getting them out of there seems hopeless.  Given that almost no mainstream media coverage of this is happening, it seems unlikely to me that unka sam will give the same warn welcome he's been giving to somalis or syrians and I doubt any of the EU will, either.  Maybe the Dutch but I doubt it.

There has been coverage of the events in S.A.  It's come from independent journalists on Youtube and my admiration for Youtube grows despite it's hostility toward (classical)liberal and conservative views.  It's come a long way from cat videos... if you care to look about.

One of the more prominent independent journalists is Lauren Southern.  Here's some of her work on current events in S.A.

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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:12-09-2018 11:23:38Copy HTML

I think you will discover, the world over, that everywhere there is strife, and murder and abuse perpetrated on the basis of race--- there's a communist street organizer behind it.
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:13-09-2018 03:10:22Copy HTML

Guess the closeness of our DNA does not end racial strife as some had hoped. Then again, family starts some deadly wars: History of Europe. Any excuse is good enough if you want to steal what others own. While we go blank about race, some poor merchant has loss all his televisions.
What goes around, comes around.
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-09-2018 07:06:39Copy HTML

It's not racial.

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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:17-09-2018 11:51:02Copy HTML

I'll bet there are a whole bunch of Africkaners who disagree with you AK-1.
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:18-09-2018 05:24:20Copy HTML

I'll bet there are a whole bunch of Africkaners who disagree with you AK-1.


No doubt.  There are a whole lot of people who think postmodern neomarxism is a good idea.  Doesn't mean they're right.


What appears to be happening in SA is the same old plot;  the marxists want to rule so they rile folks up with a victim narrative and promises of taking the property and lives of the 'oppressors'.


Your life sucks not because you're a resentful, petty idiot who makes bad decisions.  No.  Your life sucks because group X is oppressing you.  It's not you, yourself making your own life and the lives of those around you worse... no.  And it's not those around you doing exactly the same thing.  No, that's not it at all.  It's all, 'them'.  "They" are doing it to you and if it wasn't for "them", you would be beautiful and rich and happy.  So go out and vandalize, rob, assault and kill your oppressors.  Never mind that the store you just looted and the owners of that store, whom you just murdered... never mind that it was the only store near you and now you're going to have to ride a bus for half an hour to get to the next store.  That's all just evidence of how you're being oppressed by, 'them'.


The neomarxists sing that song and whisper, 'put your support in us.  We'll help you get revenge upon those who wronged you.'


The results are always the same.  The neomarxists gain power and then start cracking down on those who got them there because those who got them there did so by crime and violence and betraying the previous group of wankers and nobody likes a traitor.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:19-09-2018 11:23:47Copy HTML

much like this country, which was well on the way to equality and racial harmony before the Johnson democrats consorted with the marxists to subvert MLK's message and dream into a generation spanning hatred and extortion scam. I grew up in the south of the US, I and most of my friends were 100% against segregation, and opposed discrimination where ever we saw it. Then the democrats took it upon themselves to beat us to death with the club of our ancestors sins. and at some point, you just gotta say, "enough already". In southern cities that have had black city councils, black mayors, black police commissioners for years, they still feel the need to dig up Confederate graves, and tear down Confederate monuments. Fuck em all.
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:19-09-2018 12:47:47Copy HTML

Pendleton, Oregon was once run by the klan.  My great-grandfather was a member.  Everyone who was anyone was.  Next to church, it was the biggest social club there was back then.  There weren't many... if any... black people in Pendleton in the 1800's but there were Chinese and that was good enough.  They came over to work the railroads and in Pendleton, they lived underground.  Literally, they lived in the basements of the shops on Main street.  The busted through the walls to the neighboring basements and it wasn't long before the Pendleton underground was as big as the street level.  They opened shops down there, even had their own jail.  The biggest industry in the basements of Main street was laundry and the reason for that will follow shortly.


Above the shops on Main street were the Ladies of ill repute and brothals generate a lot of dirty linens and clothes.  There weren't a lot of women out in the wild, wild west back in the 1800's, either.  So, for reasons of their own, a surprisingly large number of women moved from the east and took up work in the brothels out west until they met some fellow they fancied and who was worthy of keeping.  At that point, she married and became respectable.  The city above the shops on main street had it's own chapel.


My grandfather, the town pharmacist, owned one of the buildings on mainstreet.  When women got the vote and shoved prohibition down the throats of everybody, Grandpa realized there was money to be made down in the basement so he opened a speakeasy.  The Chinese fellows had moved out and back above ground by then so the basement was empty and ready to be put to work. 


I learned of all this a while back when I returned to Pendleton on a lark.  "Pendleton Underground Tours!"  I took a tour and found out my grandparents and great grandparents were way more interesting than I'd ever imagined.  But the thing that stuck out was this.  The owner of the tour said it had taken him 2 decades to get permission from the city to start his business and to make the underground and the brothels into historical landmarks.


You see, some of the 'ladies of ill repute' were still alive and so was a Chinese gentleman.  The city, in a fit of empathy and kindness, just wanted him to wait until they all died of old age before bringing out the 'dirty laundry'.  The owner did manage to talk to the Chinese gentleman.  He wanted a first hand account of life on the railroad, in the laundry and underground.  The gentleman said this, "It was a long time ago and everything is different.  Such things are best forgotten."  That's all he would say about it.


It's always been a truism for me that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.  I've re-evaluated that truism and found it simplistic and lacking.  Those times are long gone in the western world.  Remembering them for the sole purpose of nurturing imaginary grievances over events that occurred long before you were born is a devils road to ruin.  Thirty seconds of listening to the victim narrative should be enough to make that clear.


It comes down to this; You can choose to make yourself and those around you better with your speech and your actions.  Or, you can choose to make your own life worse and the lives of those around you worse by being bitter, resentful or violent.


If you want to see what the latter looks like, look at S.Africa or Berkley.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:25-09-2018 02:31:02Copy HTML

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:02-10-2018 06:57:02Copy HTML

While laughing at the humor, the criticism is puzzling. We’re fortunate that 911 is coming and it’s fortunate that South Africans don’t have the expectations we have. It didn’t take much chaos for our colonies to figure out that people taking the law into their own hands, feuds, never ending revenge cycles spiraling out of control and creating more vengeance was a drain on the economy and profits and houses both religious and private. The rule of law was developed. Police enforcement, court decisions, and jails gained respect and set minds at ease. People stopped handling wrongdoing by themselves and the upheaval of society settled. Balance of powers is fluid, so when it sometimes fails, civil unrest, riots, whatever moves a mass of people happens until justice sorts it and what happened? Is answered. It’s not racial here any more than it was religious in Northern Ireland.....just happened to break that way. Contrary to popular belief, lawyers are the only thing standing between us and tyranny.
What goes around, comes around.
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:04-10-2018 03:02:06Copy HTML

Lawyers and guns.
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:04-10-2018 07:45:34Copy HTML

Lawyers and guns.


LOL.  Yes, of course guns, well armed militia helps a state against federal tyrants, but armed individuals prevent local, county, and state tyrants from crossing lines of just behavior.


Reminds me of an old guy’s grudge against the city and the rifle with which he greeted city officials at his door.  He filled his properties with eyesores within the existing city code, and complaints drove the city nuts.  They changed the code, tried to enforce it and his attorney argued that his property was grandfathered, successfully.  LOL. After he died, the cast of American Pickers came to town found a few things of interest, and the rest was hauled away.  Driving by his properties, I always thought the junk was artfully arranged, but my phone wasn’t ringing with complaints.  It’s an affectionate memory for me, cantankerous old guys are a weakness....really enjoy a cup of coffee with one.

What goes around, comes around.
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:05-10-2018 06:52:45Copy HTML

Seen that up here a lot, too.  Homesteaders whose properties were enveloped over decades by towns and cities.  Rather than just let the old coots die in peace with their 'treasure' and dignity intact, the local poohbah's couldn't abide any defiance of their authority and went to war upon them.  It was disgusting and disgraceful each and every time.


Nothing worse than big fish in small ponds.

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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