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alaskaone
  • From:USA

Date Posted:09-03-2018 11:43:09Copy HTML

I've been friends with a woman in South Africa since the 1980's so I kind of pay attention to what goes on there.  Her description of S.A. since the end of apartheid differs significantly from the media's depiction which shouldn't surprise anyone, really.

If you haven't heard, last week the government of south africa kicked the Boers off of their land.  The Boers are still being held responsible for any mortgage notes on the land that they no longer own but most of them have said, fuck off.

Generally speaking, when something like this happens, you can start the clock on the famine and genocide.  My friend isn't a farmer but she and her husband have faced relentless abuse and discrimination since the end of apartheid.  They left the country several times because her husband could not get a job because he's white.  They own, for the moment, a house so they returned from Tanzania because they got tired of malaria and they'd hoped things had settled down in S.A. during their absence.

It hasn't.

UPDATE: White South Africans face genocide...

Their eldest daughter got a job as an au pair in North Carolina, she arrives the end of this month so she's safe for a while.  The rest of them are stuck in S.A.  One of the reasons behind my sudden interest in cryptocurrency is the possibility it offers for me to get them money fast hopefully without governmental interference. 

US history in regard to refugees of genocide is spotty, at best, so getting them out of there seems hopeless.  Given that almost no mainstream media coverage of this is happening, it seems unlikely to me that unka sam will give the same warn welcome he's been giving to somalis or syrians and I doubt any of the EU will, either.  Maybe the Dutch but I doubt it.

There has been coverage of the events in S.A.  It's come from independent journalists on Youtube and my admiration for Youtube grows despite it's hostility toward (classical)liberal and conservative views.  It's come a long way from cat videos... if you care to look about.

One of the more prominent independent journalists is Lauren Southern.  Here's some of her work on current events in S.A.

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WCLJRVbaMyQ" allowfullscreen="" width="425" height="355" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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Segovia_del_Prado Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #181
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 01:33:09Copy HTML

 I have the perfect solution.  We should grant all those greedy, lazy, worthless Afrikanners refugee status; and to keep the remaining population of the sub-continent from starving, instead of shiploads of food and money, we can just send them all our socialists and oppressed races......  it's all good.
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 01:59:37Copy HTML

Reply to Segovia_del_Prado

 I have the perfect solution.  We should grant all those greedy, lazy, worthless Afrikanners refugee status; and to keep the remaining population of the sub-continent from starving, instead of shiploads of food and money, we can just send them all our socialists and oppressed races......  it's all good.

Obviously you don't think it's too early in the morning to spread your ignorance. 
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #183
  • From:Argentina

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 02:05:32Copy HTML

I saw that Tucker Carlson piece last night with Katie Hawkins.

The UK has gone insane.
Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #184
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 03:34:15Copy HTML

Reply to Windies

Reply to Segovia_del_Prado

 I have the perfect solution.  We should grant all those greedy, lazy, worthless Afrikanners refugee status; and to keep the remaining population of the sub-continent from starving, instead of shiploads of food and money, we can just send them all our socialists and oppressed races......  it's all good.

Obviously you don't think it's too early in the morning to spread your ignorance.
 

It's never too late, or too early, for that one to spread her ignorance, hate, and bigotry.

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jackie_rn Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #185
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 04:32:32Copy HTML

Reply to alaskaone

Reply to jackie_rn

What rot, Alaska.      Of course one 'owns' oneself.   In truth,  you are your only possession and as such you set your own boundaries which are only violated criminally.   You come into this world with just you, and you  leave the same way no matter how much land (or other property) you may claim to own.  You are not your stuff.    It's an illusion.   

You know, we're actually saying the same thing yet you choose to pretend we're not.  Is your mind so full of contrariness and bile that you cannot accept even the most basic of facts if it is presented to you by anyone other than your own tribe?





If we were saying the same thing, you would not be contradicting my every word and no, I'm not "full of bile" because I challenge you.  

Feel free to correct me if I misunderstand your position, but have you not been defending minority white SA's sovereign ownership of the vast majority of LAND in that mostly black country?  Saying that the govt's plan to take and more equitably redistribute it among the population is a gross violation of their property rights, which you described as the very foundation of human rights?

I am clearly making a distinction between the philosophically inviolable ownership of the SELF and ownership of pieces of earth, in this case.  You can't actually take possession of a piece of the planet by planting a flag in it.  It existed before we got here, and will be here when we leave.  We can nurture it or defile it (we usually do the latter, tragically), but we can't own it.  

Now mick, and perhaps you, are saying we (our bodies) can be enslaved, or conscripted, forced to do actions with which we may disagree and oppose ..... but that doesn't confer 'ownership' of our selves to the master (or to the collective, mick).  Our identity is our own, whether on this plane of existence or the next, whatever that is.    
 

Kim Jong Un “speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same...” Donald J. Trump, 6/15/2018
SandySandCastles Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #186
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:14-03-2018 10:06:35Copy HTML

 Alaska,
Thought of you when I was reading this just now.

CANBERRA, Australia -Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has announced he plans to examine ways to fast-track a visa program for white South African farmers.

The decision comes in the wake of newly-elected South African President Cyril Ramaphosa's apparent plan to appropriate white-owned South African farms and redistribute the land to black South Africans. Ramaphosa's plan would exclude white South Africans from receiving any compensation for their appropriated land.

In addition, Sky News Australia reported that white South Africans are being murdered at a rate of more than one per week, according to News Corp Australia chief Paul Toohey, who travelled to South Africa to investigate. In the wake of such claims, Dutton suggested to the media that a humanitarian visa may be what is needed.

Australia's home affairs page states a total of 13,765 visas were granted under the annual Humanitarian Program from 2015 to 2016. Under the current system, a refugee would first need to be referred by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to the Australian government.

Dutton's call for a white South African visa program is a shift away from Australia's widely criticized handling of refugees on Manus Island late last year, when hundreds of males were herded onto a small strip of land under the control of Papua New Guinea.

The Associated Press reported in November 2017 that Australia's use of the island as a male housing sector for refugees was ruled unconstitutional by the government of Papua New Guinea, thus effectively shutting it down. Refugees initially refused to leave, choosing to live in squalid conditions, without running water and adequate shelter.

The mainly South East Asian and Arab refugees only vacated the refugee center on the island when local authorities threatened force.

Windies Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #187
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 12:13:57Copy HTML



So refugees are good now?
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #188
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 12:21:25Copy HTML

Thank you, Sandy.  I’ve passed the information on to Odin and Deon.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #189
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 12:29:48Copy HTML

 Now mick, and perhaps you, are saying we (our bodies) can be enslaved, or conscripted, forced to do actions with which we may disagree and oppose ..... but that doesn't confer 'ownership' of our selves to the master (or to the collective, mick).  Our identity is our own, whether on this plane of existence or the next, whatever that is.

I'm sorry, but again, your individuality may be your own, but your body--your life that is--belongs to the collective. As human beings we have an instinctive understanding of that, even if it clashes with our reason, which is why NO people have every denied the right of whatever entity is governing them to summon them in self-defense of that people. It's why draft-dodgers, no matter how noble their sentiments, received nothing but scorn: all of us recognize on an instinctive, animal, eusocial level, that our life is at the whim of the species, not the other way 'round.

If it were otherwise, then not only would you not be able to be conscripted, but you also could not be prevented from damaging your body. Nobody would have a problem with assisted suicide, because we'd just say, "eh, his body, his life."

No, it's not. Suicide has always been frowned upon because it is one lesser body to shore up the species, the evolutionary development, lost for no reason that society accepts as valid.

Your life belongs to the collective. You may have your individuality as you choose, but your life is not yours to dispose of as  you wish.

~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #190
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 02:16:43Copy HTML

Thus speaks a destroyer, an enslaver of humanity.  He describes the heart of Marxism, the ideology that destroyed hundreds of millions of people.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
katie5445 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #191
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 02:50:22Copy HTML

Australia like Canada has a sparse population and are always begging for people with skills. Don't notice The Netherlands stepping up for their 'home boys.'
jackie_rn Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #192
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 02:59:54Copy HTML


Your life belongs to the collective.  (mick)

I agree that we are all part of society and function within it to one degree or another.  I don't agree that we have no choice but to go with the whims of "the collective".  

You may have your individuality as you choose,

That's what I'm saying.  The body is temporary housing for the essence.  It's my personal belief that the personality is ongoing. Forever and ever amen.  lol



but your life is not yours to dispose of as  you wish.

Of course you can, if you're speaking of the body (house).   I grant that suicide is discouraged and stigmatized by nearly all societies on a philosophical or religious basis, but it is not illegal in the US and in numerous other countries.  Even if it was, such law is unenforceable.  You can 'dispose' of your own body in a million ways with intention, fast or slow.  Is it moral?  Depends on the individual circumstance, and on who you ask and their ideas about morality.  
Kim Jong Un “speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same...” Donald J. Trump, 6/15/2018
alaskaone Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #193
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 03:17:36Copy HTML

News from S.A.  It's not in my friends area but this is happening right now.

Corby Hill Estate And Donalds Saints Farm in the ESHOWE AREA is UNDER ATTACK ...

A mob have burnt the farm houses.....workshops.... tractors ...farming equipment and have torched thousands of hectares of the sugar cane crops in Eshowe.....
Apparently one farm is completely burnt down and the other is alight as well. It's been said that the vicitms are battling to get services to respond.
There is a desperate plea for help from Saps .

This is a developing story and I will try to update as soon as I can
Please note TST MEMBERS have NOT responded and as such the info we are relaying are from 3rd parties on the scene.

This is a very worrying situation with serious undertones for the rest of our country.


Eshowe - Wikipedia

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
Segovia_del_Prado Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #194
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 04:15:34Copy HTML

 will the US government respond by blockading all imports from S.A., and rewarding these murderers and thieves by refusing to purchase their stolen goods?  Is genocide anything like Apartheid?
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
Windies Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #195
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 05:05:00Copy HTML

Reply to Segovia_del_Prado

 will the US government respond by blockading all imports from S.A., and rewarding these murderers and thieves by refusing to purchase their stolen goods?  Is genocide anything like Apartheid?

Give them like 100 years.....that's how long it took them to respond to Apartheid.
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
Segovia_del_Prado Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #196
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 05:08:53Copy HTML

 agreed, we should leave them to their devices for at least the next hundred years.  Perhaps by then they may figure out how to become part of the civilized world on their own.  Obviously, trying to give them a leg up didn't help.
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Windies Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #197
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 05:17:47Copy HTML

Reply to Segovia_del_Prado

 agreed, we should leave them to their devices for at least the next hundred years.  Perhaps by then they may figure out how to become part of the civilized world on their own.  Obviously, trying to give them a leg up didn't help.

So twenty years was enough time to reverse hundreds of years of racism, discrimination, torture, kidnappings, herding people into townships?
Right?

And can you explain what you mean by "give them a leg up"?
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
jackie_rn Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #198
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 05:57:46Copy HTML

 Now Windies, you know that the Afrikaners were just trying to help.  They saw there was a need in SA, and rushed to fill it.  Unfortunately, the need was their own.  
Kim Jong Un “speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same...” Donald J. Trump, 6/15/2018
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 06:14:02Copy HTML

Reply to jackie_rn

 Now Windies, you know that the Afrikaners were just trying to help.  They saw there was a need in SA, and rushed to fill it.  Unfortunately, the need was their own.  

I swear there is no limit to Segovia's ignorance.
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
Segovia_del_Prado Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #200
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 07:08:11Copy HTML

 I'd love to see an IQ comparison between Hawk's Iowa porkers and our very own little Caribbean pot bellied pig!!
“The truth is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose, it will defend itself.” St. Augustine
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 07:32:45Copy HTML

Reply to Segovia_del_Prado

 I'd love to see an IQ comparison between Hawk's Iowa porkers and our very own little Caribbean pot bellied pig!!

I'd love to you make sense of any report that you see.
It would be impossible for you to do so, you just don't have the intellectual capability.
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
jackie_rn Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #202
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 07:35:28Copy HTML

 Somebody needs to give Seg a leg up.   If you know what ah mean.   bwahahahaha
Kim Jong Un “speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same...” Donald J. Trump, 6/15/2018
Windies Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #203
  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 07:37:19Copy HTML

Reply to jackie_rn

 Somebody needs to give Seg a leg up.   If you know what ah mean.   bwahahahaha

Second time i have to say this today.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
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  • From:USA

Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 07:45:17Copy HTML

Reply to alaskaone

Or, and this is apparently another one of my radical ideas, it could just stop.  Today.

AK, yes, it's a radical idea. It won't "just stop" because that ain't what humans are. As long as a few remain alive, a "wronged" tribe will hold resentments through the ages. If enough remain alive, they'll eventually seek revenge. 
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 10:52:22Copy HTML

That does seem to be the goal of folk like we see here: endless race wars.
Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 11:13:22Copy HTML

Reply to alaskaone

That does seem to be the goal of folk like we see here: endless race wars.

You think that’s what it is Alaska? And You think the only way for there to be peace is for blacks to accept that they are victims of that injustice and move on and eke out a living with what they are left with, while the whites could continue to lead live comfortably knowing that Were it not for others’ misery, they will not be wealthy.
Is that it Alaska?
..... the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned - Stephen Miller Congratulations Stephen Miller- on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job! - #45
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:15-03-2018 11:31:37Copy HTML

 What is it you want here Alaska besides "just stop"?   NO ONE is cheering the slaughter of white farmers, for god's sake.  It's horrific, despicable, unacceptable, tragic, whatever condemning adjective fits.  It will likely require outside intervention imo.    But if you're going to continue to discount the circumstances that lead to it, you're going to stay discomfited by any discussion of it.... and you're in the wrong place.  The fallout from centuries of European colonialism and official "apartheid" is going to be felt for generations in Africa and elsewhere.  Pleas to "just stop" are understandable, but won't touch it.
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:16-03-2018 02:12:50Copy HTML

It looks like certain Australian groups want to augment their racist ranks with true Afrikaans racists......

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/352604/white-south-african-farmers-need-help-from-a-civilised-country

... they even go so far as to throw in some compliments about themselves.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
TITANPANTHER1 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #209
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:16-03-2018 03:34:26Copy HTML

I think it's been fairly well established the whites in SA are not only going to be dispossessed of their lands and relegated to virtual poverty for the most part but also run the risk of continued violence by the black population possibly for years to come.

Assuming this is true, the whites in SA have few options available to them. They can hope to emigrate as quickly as possible, they can remain in SA and suffer in silence or there is a possibility (although remote) they might take matters into their own hands and opt for a civil war as simply a matter of survival.

Either way, the future looks bleak for those whites remaining in SA. 
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Re:South Africa

Date Posted:16-03-2018 05:49:42Copy HTML

Reply to Windies

Reply to alaskaone

That does seem to be the goal of folk like we see here: endless race wars.

You think that’s what it is Alaska?
Yes, I do.

And You think the only way for there to be peace is for blacks to accept that they are victims of that injustice and move on and eke out a living with what they are left with, while the whites could continue to lead live comfortably knowing that Were it not for others’ misery, they will not be wealthy.
Whites in S.A. are 8% of the population and dropping rapidly.  They've already been kicked out of employment across the nation and they're being murdered on the farms.  It appears that soon all property of whites will be confiscated;  farms, homes and businesses.  In other words, the black south Africans are, after genocide, probably going to launch another state sponsored famine that will kill millions of poor people in S.A.

Is that it Alaska?
What it is, is that you and folks like yourself thrive on grievance, real or imagined, and you will be quite happy to see another genocide visited upon this world provided it's blacks killing whites.

Up until this thread and the boys thread, I never would have seriously thought such a thing about the opposition but you and the rest have convinced me that I was naïve.


Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. The advantage of insinuations over hard arguments is that they bypass critical thought. No one can respond precisely to a charge that is utterly vague or to accusers who will envelope any reply in a poisonous fog of further insinuations. ~ David Warren, The Guardian There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time and that captures an important point. The more powerful the government becomes, the more people are willing to do in order to seize the prize, and the more afraid they become when someone else has control. ~ Glenn Harlan Reynolds “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve.” ― H.L. Mencken
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