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easyrider123
  • From:Norway

Date Posted:31-07-2018 09:15:31Copy HTML

The truth finds a way ............................................ 


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Koch-Funded Hit Piece Backfires: Shows Medicare for All Would Save 'Whopping $2 Trillion' Over Ten Years While Covering Everybody

"If every major country on Earth can guarantee healthcare to all, and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States cannot do the same."

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) speaks during a health care rally at the 2017 Convention of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee on September 22, 2017 in San Francisco, California. (Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) speaks during a health care rally at the 2017 Convention of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee on September 22, 2017 in San Francisco, California. (Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

If the billionaire Koch brothers really want to undermine the economic case for Medicare for All, they have a funny way of showing it.

Judging by the headlines alone, it would appear that the newly published study projecting that Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) widely popular Medicare for All plan would cost $32.6 trillion over the next decade was conducted by an official, neutral body seeking the facts, not pushing an agenda.

"Even if you take the report's headline figures at face value, the picture it paints is that of an enormous bargain. We get to insure every single person in the country...and save everyone from the hell of constantly changing health insurance all while saving money." 
—Matt Bruenig, People's Policy Project
Read a bit further, though, and you'll discover that the analysis—released Monday morning—was produced by the George Mason University-based Mercatus Center, which has received millions of dollars in funding from the right-wing billionaires Charles and David Koch, who have previously expressed support for abolishing Medicare and Medicaid entirely.

"This grossly misleading and biased report is the Koch brothers' response to the growing support in our country for a 'Medicare for All' program," Sanders said in response to the study, which was penned by Charles Blahous, who previously worked as a senior economic adviser to former President George W. Bush.

But as Matt Bruenig of the People's Policy Project notes—though absent or buried in much of the initial reportingeven the Koch brothers' numbers, which Sanders says are vastly inflated, demonstrate that the "U.S. could insure 30 million more Americans and virtually eliminate out-of-pocket healthcare expenses" while saving "a whopping $2 trillion" in the process.*

"At first glance, it is strange that the Mercatus center...would publish a report this positive about Medicare for All," writes Bruenig.

"The claim that 'even the Koch organizations say it will save money while covering everyone' provides a useful bit of rhetoric for proponents of the policy," he adds. "But the real game here for Mercatus is to bury the money-saving finding in the report's tables while headlining the incomprehensibly large $32.6 trillion number in order to trick dim reporters into splashing that number everywhere and freaking out."

This "strategy," Bruenig notes, was quite successful.

While most outlets don't even mention the buried cost-saving conclusion of the Mercatus report, Axios—whose headline reads "Bernie's 'Medicare for All' predicted to cost nearly $33 trillion"—includes this line at the very bottom of its piece, in the "worth noting" section: "All told, 'Medicare for All' would actually slightly reduce the total amount we pay for health care."

"Even if you take the report's headline figures at face value, the picture it paints is that of an enormous bargain," Bruenig concludes. "We get to insure every single person in the country, virtually eliminate cost-sharing, and save everyone from the hell of constantly changing health insurance all while saving money. You would have to be a fool to pass that offer up."

In 2016, the United States spent $3.4 trillion on healthcare; projected over ten years—and assuming costs don't rise, as they're expected to—that's $34 trillion. By 2025, the current for-profit healthcare system is expected to cost a staggering $5.5 trillion per year.

Additionally, America spends far more on healthcare per capita than other industrialized nations—most of which have some form of government-funded universal healthcare—and achieves worse outcomes.

These soaring costs are a major reason most Americans—and even a growing number of Republicans—now support a Medicare for All-type system, according to recent surveys.

As Common Dreams reported, Medicare for All is also gaining steam on Capitol Hill, with more than 70 House Democrats joining the newly formed Medicare for All Caucus, which will devote significant energy and resources to studying what it would take to implement a single-payer system in the U.S. and guarantee healthcare to all Americans as a right.

As Sanders said Monday in response to the Mercatus study, "If every major country on Earth can guarantee healthcare to all, and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States cannot do the same."

*CorrectionThis post, based largely on the analysis of Matt Bruenig at the People's Policy Project, initially stated that savings from Medicare for All would be $303 billion over ten years. Bruenig subsequently changed this number due to a miscalculation. The correct number is actually $2 trillion.


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #91
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:26-10-2018 05:28:47Copy HTML

after servicing SKDOODLE and others before I come up for air"- BOGUSPUMPED get ALL names right, especially yours dumjizz! ____ Wale is the most homoerotic obsessed human being I have ever encountered. All he can do is express his homoerotic fantasies toward us laughing about "pumping" and "jizz". And incredibly stupid to boot. Lobbying in the military industrial complex and the push to war among many elements in society has long been a fact. It is a fact. The man is a sick troll.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #92
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 03:44:10Copy HTML

after servicing SKDOODLE and others before I come up for air"- BOGUSPUMPED get ALL names right, especially yours dumjizz!

Wale is the most homoerotic obsessed human being I have ever encountered.  All he can do is express his homoerotic fantasies toward us laughing about "pumping" and "jizz".  And incredibly stupid to boot.  Lobbying in the military industrial complex and the push to war among many elements in society has long been a fact.  It is a fact.     The man is a sick troll.


" since I am a genius in my mind only, whatever I say is a 'fact' is really the opposite"-SKDUMMY

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #93
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 05:31:38Copy HTML

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skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #94
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 11:49:47Copy HTML

“Dumjizz is boguspumping his anal insertion into skdummy, arent I clever?...yuk yuk hardee har har”.  Wale the mentally retarded 6 year old.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #95
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 01:16:46Copy HTML

“Dumjizz is boguspumping his anal insertion into skdummy, arent I clever?...yuk yuk hardee har har”.  Wale the mentally retarded 6 year old.


Taking a break while boguspumped pauses to spit?

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #96
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 01:17:35Copy HTML

Wale says:  Idiot, meaning i don't know their views so i can't comment on them you moron! ________ Others views of you are well known Wale.  They write them down for us to read......Right here on these pages......Their names are attached to their wirtten words.  It is not a mystery to know what people think of you Wale.   This is what ALL of your boardmates think of you ...conservatives AND liberals. "Wales is, well, simply put, an ignorant nincompoop fool" "You are either a stupid liar, or an idiot.............either way, the things you say are simply not true. You are living in some sort of fantasy land that only truly exists in your jumbled, paranoid fantasies." "In your present mental state, really, you should not be allowed to participate in any government election processes" "you really are not competent to discuss issues and debate arguments." "This "wale" is skin-crawly creepy, isn't he?  Good grief." "Fuck off, fuck wad. You haven't said anything that mattered since you got here." "If you can't get a name right why would anyone expect you to get a fact right, fuckface?" "I guess I got yours (name) right too then, fuck face. I see you got your IQ right as well." "This is probably the ONLY place wale can emit his batshit drivel without getting his teeth knocked down his throat.  And yes it's very revealing." "oh wales....no offense but you are a stupid asshole" " this character is one pervy troll" That was just a smidgeon of what people in here think of you Wale.  The quotes come from longstanding conservative and liberal members alike.  The quotes come from people who have for years despised each other, but they can agree on you.  None of those quotes are mine.   You are a homosexual obsessed alleged- christian who was ruthlessly tormented as a child. It turned you into a spiteful little troll who doesn't know how to interact with the adults, many of whom tormented you as a child.  You are good at calling people names like "jizz" and "pumped" and you revel in telling the other men in the forum they are "servicing" and "anal inserting" each other among numerous other of your homoerotic fantasies.   This was a free service.  Now that you know what a sick little fuck you are, you might try to do something about it.  I highly recommend a skilled professional as it is not likely solvable alone.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #97
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 01:20:00Copy HTML

Idiot, meaning i don't know their views so i can't comment on them you moron! ________ Others views of you are well known Wale.  They write them down for us to read.  Right here on these pages.  Their names are attached to them.  It is not a mystery to know what people think of you Wale.   This is what ALL of your boardmates think of you Wale...conservatives AND liberals. "Wales is, well, simply put, an ignorant nincompoop fool" "You are either a stupid liar, or an idiot.............either way, the things you say are simply not true. You are living in some sort of fantasy land that only truly exists in your jumbled, paranoid fantasies." "In your present mental state, really, you should not be allowed to participate in any government election processes" "you really are not competent to discuss issues and debate arguments." "This "wale" is skin-crawly creepy, isn't he?  Good grief." "Fuck off, fuck wad. You haven't said anything that mattered since you got here." "If you can't get a name right why would anyone expect you to get a fact right, fuckface?" "I guess I got yours (name) right too then, fuck face. I see you got your IQ right as well." "This is probably the ONLY place wale can emit his batshit drivel without getting his teeth knocked down his throat.  And yes it's very revealing." "oh wales....no offense but you are a stupid asshole" " this character is one pervy troll" That was just a smidgeon of what people in here thinks of you Wale.  The quotes come from longstanding conservative and liberal members alike.  The quotes come from people who have for years despised each other, but they can agree on you.  None of those quotes are mine.   You are a homosexual obsessed alleged- christian who was ruthlessly tormented as a child. It turned you into a spiteful little troll who doesn't know how to interact with the adults, many of whom tormented you as a child.  You are good at calling people names like "jizz" and "pumped" and you revel in telling the other men in the forum they are "servicing" and "anal inserting" each other among numerous other of your homoerotic fantasies.   This was a free service.  Now that you know what a sick little fuck you are, you might try to do something about it.  I highly recommend a skilled professional as it is not likely solvable alone.


Ok, what about the analyst YOU have seen all these years, although he hasn't made much progress with YOU though!

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #98
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 01:55:07Copy HTML

"Oh yeah....but what about you?" You did it....you mustered all the intellect of a 5 year old for that one.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #99
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 02:15:43Copy HTML

"Oh yeah....but what about you?"   You did it....you mustered all the intellect of a 5 year old for that one.


NO, I didn't come down to your level at all SKDUMMY!

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #100
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 03:20:22Copy HTML

Wale quotes: "Has boguspumped finished servicing you yet, or are you letting him up for air? "Taking a break from performing on skdoodle?" "did you just come up for air to give your lover a break." "I guess you guys blow, I mean know , each other better" "get tired of you being on his knob? " "Go back to servicing skdoodle for awhile. " "This must be your way of telling us the SOUNDS you make when you service skdoodle " "I guess after you have sex with your lover, you always TELL him "it was the best" as if he would be convinced only after you repeat that numerous times." "A good enema might bring you some clarity " "Perhaps just abstaining from anal insertions would help " "Piggybacking skdoodle again, eh? Oh is it really the other way around? " What everyone in the forum says about Wale: "Wales is, well, simply put, an ignorant nincompoop fool" "You are either a stupid liar, or an idiot.............either way, the things you say are simply not true. You are living in some sort of fantasy land that only truly exists in your jumbled, paranoid fantasies." "In your present mental state, really, you should not be allowed to participate in any government election processes" "you really are not competent to discuss issues and debate arguments." "This "wale" is skin-crawly creepy, isn't he? Good grief." "Fuck off, fuck wad. You haven't said anything that mattered since you got here." "If you can't get a name right why would anyone expect you to get a fact right, fuckface?" "I guess I got yours (name) right too then, fuck face. I see you got your IQ right as well." "This is probably the ONLY place wale can emit his batshit drivel without getting his teeth knocked down his throat. And yes it's very revealing." "oh wales....no offense but you are a stupid asshole" " this character is one pervy troll" You've built quite a reputation as a sicko in your short time here Wale. Congrats. That is a feat with some of the other sickos in here.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #101
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 04:43:07Copy HTML

Wale quotes: "Has boguspumped finished servicing you yet, or are you letting him up for air? "Taking a break from performing on skdoodle?" "did you just come up for air to give your lover a break."   "I guess you guys blow, I mean know , each other better"   "get tired of you being on his knob? " "Go back to servicing skdoodle for awhile. " "This must be your way of telling us the SOUNDS you make when you service skdoodle " "I guess after you have sex with your lover, you always TELL him "it was the best" as if he would be convinced only after you repeat that numerous times." "A good enema might bring you some clarity " "Perhaps just abstaining from anal insertions would help  " "Piggybacking skdoodle again, eh? Oh is it really the other way around? " What everyone in the forum says about Wale: "Wales is, well, simply put, an ignorant nincompoop fool" "You are either a stupid liar, or an idiot.............either way, the things you say are simply not true. You are living in some sort of fantasy land that only truly exists in your jumbled, paranoid fantasies." "In your present mental state, really, you should not be allowed to participate in any government election processes" "you really are not competent to discuss issues and debate arguments." "This "wale" is skin-crawly creepy, isn't he?  Good grief." "Fuck off, fuck wad. You haven't said anything that mattered since you got here." "If you can't get a name right why would anyone expect you to get a fact right, fuckface?" "I guess I got yours (name) right too then, fuck face. I see you got your IQ right as well." "This is probably the ONLY place wale can emit his batshit drivel without getting his teeth knocked down his throat.  And yes it's very revealing." "oh wales....no offense but you are a stupid asshole" " this character is one pervy troll" You've built quite a reputation as a sicko in your short time here Wale.  Congrats.  That is a feat with some of the other sickos in here.


Not everyone YOU IDIOT, just the lefty loons who latch on to the idiotic ideas YOU also hold, SKDUMMY!

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #102
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:27-10-2018 05:32:23Copy HTML

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wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #103
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:28-10-2018 03:29:17Copy HTML

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" Now that I've taken a break, and come up for air from bobbing up and down, my numbers have gone up on my brainpower and MAYBE , someday, I will get into double digit territory"-BOGUSPUMPED

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #104
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:28-10-2018 05:55:33Copy HTML

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"back to my blowbuddy, numbers down"-BOGUSPUMPED

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #105
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:28-10-2018 07:11:21Copy HTML

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easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #106
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:29-10-2018 08:17:49Copy HTML




Why the "Two State Solution" is Apartheid

 

By Craig MurrayThe solution requires the abolition of apartheid Israel and its replacement by a unitary, democratic state blind to race and religion. - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50488.htm





wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #107
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:29-10-2018 08:32:26Copy HTML




Why the "Two State Solution" is Apartheid

 

By Craig MurrayThe solution requires the abolition of apartheid Israel and its replacement by a unitary, democratic state blind to race and religion. - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50488.htm






When you get your head out of your anti-semetic ass, give us a call!

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #108
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:30-10-2018 12:26:42Copy HTML

When you get your head out of your anti-semetic ass, give us a call! ______ Its anti-Semitic you fucking idiot. When you ever write one of your completely worthless non-responses without misspelling something....give us a call.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #109
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:30-10-2018 12:56:40Copy HTML

When you get your head out of your anti-semetic ass, give us a call!

Its anti-Semitic you fucking idiot.  When you ever write one of your completely worthless non-responses without misspelling something....give us a call.


Don't mistake typos for incorrect info you moron! Get back on your meds SKDUMMY!

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #110
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:30-10-2018 04:15:33Copy HTML

It's not anti-Semitism, idiots. Hard to believe there are people spewing such nonsense, but then again what  can be expected from wales. lol

Here's some food for thought for those of you who are confused...........





wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #111
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:31-10-2018 12:15:49Copy HTML

It's not anti-Semitism, idiots. Hard to believe there are people spewing such nonsense, but then again what  can be expected from wales. lol

Here's some food for thought for those of you who are confused...........






Your confused views not withstanding, the motivation IS anti0semitism you idiot!

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #112
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:31-10-2018 04:44:51Copy HTML

Daily reminder of the sick fuck we have amongst us.  

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #113
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:31-10-2018 06:34:47Copy HTML

Daily reminder of the sick fuck we have amongst us.  


Those lefty loons do NOT qualify as EVERYBODY SKDUMMY! ALSO, what kind of mental deficiency do you have that you SEARCH the threads to pull out FRAGMENTS without the context of your idiocy that has been responded to SKDUMMY?

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #114
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:31-10-2018 08:44:23Copy HTML

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wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #115
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:31-10-2018 09:33:18Copy HTML

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" No matter how feeble OR STUPID, I must put up SOME sort of response for my blowbuddy"- BOGUSPUMPED

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #116
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:01-11-2018 05:38:32Copy HTML




Why the "Two State Solution" is Apartheid

 

By Craig MurrayThe solution requires the abolition of apartheid Israel and its replacement by a unitary, democratic state blind to race and religion. - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50488.htm







wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #117
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:01-11-2018 12:32:28Copy HTML




Why the "Two State Solution" is Apartheid

 

By Craig MurrayThe solution requires the abolition of apartheid Israel and its replacement by a unitary, democratic state blind to race and religion. - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50488.htm








You must feel that IF you repeat your ant semitism, somehow others will latch on SLEAZYRIDER!

skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #118
  • From:Argentina

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:01-11-2018 12:45:14Copy HTML

And you propose to get this how:



abolition of apartheid Israel and its replacement by a unitary, democratic state blind to race and religion.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #119
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:01-11-2018 12:46:21Copy HTML

Itseveryone Wale. Everyone. People like Dun and Anj would crack up that call them lefty loons. You are sick. Everyone can see it. Very very sick.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #120
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:01-11-2018 12:57:32Copy HTML

Itseveryone Wale. Everyone.   People like Dun and Anj would crack up that call them lefty loons.  You are sick.  Everyone can see it.   Very very sick.


Make your complaints when you see your analyst again and you are put back on your medications SKDUMMY!

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