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easyrider123
  • From:Norway

Date Posted:31-07-2018 09:15:31Copy HTML

The truth finds a way ............................................ 


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Koch-Funded Hit Piece Backfires: Shows Medicare for All Would Save 'Whopping $2 Trillion' Over Ten Years While Covering Everybody

"If every major country on Earth can guarantee healthcare to all, and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States cannot do the same."

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) speaks during a health care rally at the 2017 Convention of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee on September 22, 2017 in San Francisco, California. (Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) speaks during a health care rally at the 2017 Convention of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee on September 22, 2017 in San Francisco, California. (Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

If the billionaire Koch brothers really want to undermine the economic case for Medicare for All, they have a funny way of showing it.

Judging by the headlines alone, it would appear that the newly published study projecting that Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) widely popular Medicare for All plan would cost $32.6 trillion over the next decade was conducted by an official, neutral body seeking the facts, not pushing an agenda.

"Even if you take the report's headline figures at face value, the picture it paints is that of an enormous bargain. We get to insure every single person in the country...and save everyone from the hell of constantly changing health insurance all while saving money." 
—Matt Bruenig, People's Policy Project
Read a bit further, though, and you'll discover that the analysis—released Monday morning—was produced by the George Mason University-based Mercatus Center, which has received millions of dollars in funding from the right-wing billionaires Charles and David Koch, who have previously expressed support for abolishing Medicare and Medicaid entirely.

"This grossly misleading and biased report is the Koch brothers' response to the growing support in our country for a 'Medicare for All' program," Sanders said in response to the study, which was penned by Charles Blahous, who previously worked as a senior economic adviser to former President George W. Bush.

But as Matt Bruenig of the People's Policy Project notes—though absent or buried in much of the initial reportingeven the Koch brothers' numbers, which Sanders says are vastly inflated, demonstrate that the "U.S. could insure 30 million more Americans and virtually eliminate out-of-pocket healthcare expenses" while saving "a whopping $2 trillion" in the process.*

"At first glance, it is strange that the Mercatus center...would publish a report this positive about Medicare for All," writes Bruenig.

"The claim that 'even the Koch organizations say it will save money while covering everyone' provides a useful bit of rhetoric for proponents of the policy," he adds. "But the real game here for Mercatus is to bury the money-saving finding in the report's tables while headlining the incomprehensibly large $32.6 trillion number in order to trick dim reporters into splashing that number everywhere and freaking out."

This "strategy," Bruenig notes, was quite successful.

While most outlets don't even mention the buried cost-saving conclusion of the Mercatus report, Axios—whose headline reads "Bernie's 'Medicare for All' predicted to cost nearly $33 trillion"—includes this line at the very bottom of its piece, in the "worth noting" section: "All told, 'Medicare for All' would actually slightly reduce the total amount we pay for health care."

"Even if you take the report's headline figures at face value, the picture it paints is that of an enormous bargain," Bruenig concludes. "We get to insure every single person in the country, virtually eliminate cost-sharing, and save everyone from the hell of constantly changing health insurance all while saving money. You would have to be a fool to pass that offer up."

In 2016, the United States spent $3.4 trillion on healthcare; projected over ten years—and assuming costs don't rise, as they're expected to—that's $34 trillion. By 2025, the current for-profit healthcare system is expected to cost a staggering $5.5 trillion per year.

Additionally, America spends far more on healthcare per capita than other industrialized nations—most of which have some form of government-funded universal healthcare—and achieves worse outcomes.

These soaring costs are a major reason most Americans—and even a growing number of Republicans—now support a Medicare for All-type system, according to recent surveys.

As Common Dreams reported, Medicare for All is also gaining steam on Capitol Hill, with more than 70 House Democrats joining the newly formed Medicare for All Caucus, which will devote significant energy and resources to studying what it would take to implement a single-payer system in the U.S. and guarantee healthcare to all Americans as a right.

As Sanders said Monday in response to the Mercatus study, "If every major country on Earth can guarantee healthcare to all, and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States cannot do the same."

*CorrectionThis post, based largely on the analysis of Matt Bruenig at the People's Policy Project, initially stated that savings from Medicare for All would be $303 billion over ten years. Bruenig subsequently changed this number due to a miscalculation. The correct number is actually $2 trillion.


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #181
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:04-12-2018 09:19:46Copy HTML

LOL  Wale, "better ways of financing the insulin" is in effect making other cough up the money.


NO, socialization of medicine does that.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #182
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:04-12-2018 11:12:00Copy HTML

Actually, it's what health insurance does with the added "bonus" of other people having to cough up enough additional money to keep the fat cat CEOs happy too.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #183
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:04-12-2018 11:48:43Copy HTML

Actually, it's what health insurance does with the added "bonus" of other people having to cough up enough additional money to keep the fat cat CEOs happy too.


But people have choices to purchase insurance or not. Socialized medicine confiscates money from some to give to others.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #184
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 12:28:27Copy HTML

That's a false choice.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #185
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 01:12:34Copy HTML

That's a false choice.


No, it is a real choice and simply because you can't see or understand it doesn't make it false.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #186
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 01:59:40Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you need to look up the phrase "false choice."

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #187
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:55:43Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you need to look up the phrase "false choice."


Clearly YOU need to stop distorting words and phrases.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #188
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 11:31:46Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you didn't look up the phrase.


Clearly YOU need to stop distorting words and phrases.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #189
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:05-12-2018 11:40:45Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you didn't look up the phrase.


Clearly YOU need to stop distorting words and phrases.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #190
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:06-12-2018 02:12:18Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you didn't look up the phrase.


Clearly YOU need to stop distorting words and phrases.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #191
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:06-12-2018 05:15:22Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you didn't look up the phrase.


Clearly YOU need to stop distorting words and phrases

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #192
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:06-12-2018 05:58:49Copy HTML

Clearly, wale, you didn't look up the phrase.

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #193
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:08-01-2019 08:26:14Copy HTML

POSITIVE!  What's supposed to happen in America........



THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #194
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:25-01-2019 01:34:24Copy HTML

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THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #195
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:09-02-2019 03:06:31Copy HTML

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THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
cathymv Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #196
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:16-02-2019 05:58:35Copy HTML



Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.....except for the election of Donald Trump.
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #197
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:17-02-2019 06:19:15Copy HTML

Oh cathy, again you post without a clue as to the facts or relevance of any of those individual situations. Just more out of context graphics intended to sway clueless dimwits such as yourself, all to manipulate the ignorant voters to follow them. Really embarrassing and sad that our political process can be manipulated with rubbish. I feel sorry for you and I feel even more sorry for the thinking Americans who have to live with the willfully ignorant.


This thread was intended to focus on truth, whole truth. Not out of context facts meant to mis inform.

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
cathymv Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #198
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:08-03-2019 01:26:06Copy HTML



Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.....except for the election of Donald Trump.
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #199
  • From:Argentina

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:09-03-2019 01:45:50Copy HTML

The 'other side', EZ, can WANT all they want to WANT.  What they must do is work for their WANTS, the way the rest of us have.


Nobody 'gives' you a good job.  You earn it.


Nobody 'gives' you good pay.  You earn it. 


Nobody 'gives' you security in life.  You earn it. 

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Doe_Eyes Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #200
  • From:USA

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:09-03-2019 07:11:16Copy HTML

The 'other side', EZ, can WANT all they want to WANT.  What they must do is work for their WANTS, the way the rest of us have.


Nobody 'gives' you a good job.  You earn it.


Nobody 'gives' you good pay.  You earn it. 


Nobody 'gives' you security in life.  You earn it. 



That's right, we, the people have EARNED a good job.  We, the people EARNED good pay.  We, the people EARNED our security in life......and then it was taken away, little by little, with laws that favor the rich, with deregulating those who screw us over, with the destruction of unions and the right to organize and bargain for our EARNED jobs, pay, and security.  It was taken away by people elected to represent us, who were bought and paid for by those same people who took our EARNED jobs, pay, and security, so it is time to vote out the people who don't represent We, the People, and vote in those who do.  Vote for those who don't take money from monied interests, who finance their campaigns with grass roots donations and small donations from We, the People or from organizations that represent We, the People, like unions.  We've EARNED good jobs, good pay and security for our future.  It's time to take back our representatives.  

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #201
  • From:Norway

Re:THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

Date Posted:10-03-2019 05:13:49Copy HTML

I guess skrumpie doesn't have any response to undeniable TRUTH,eh? lolol

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