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Nickel
  • From:USA

Date Posted:22-12-2018 06:49:04Copy HTML

If you wait long enough, your position, no matter how far fetched at the time you recognized it, surfaces, and you can smile, sigh with relief, and know you were not necessarily wrong.


http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/21/how-academias-unhealthy-obsession-with-diversity-creates-social-unrest/


Sumantra Maitra
By Sumantra Maitra

I remember reading a real-life story, an article written by who I forget, to my utter shame, wherein an author was sitting in a chatty, grimy morning café for a breakfast when suddenly, for some reason, perhaps due to a hurried mistake, the café owner changed the radio to a channel playing Franz Schubert’s “Arpeggione.” Suddenly, everyone stopped talking mesmerized, almost as if due to a magical spell.

The people sitting in the café were not used to listening to classical music during their hurried morning coffee to their way to work. Instead, they liked to talk business, check toxic news and politics on Twitter, and gossip about personal lives as something cheap and hideous droned on in the distance.

After a certain amount of time, which felt like an eternity, someone managed to summon the power to change it back to the cheap and hideous. Life returned to normal and everyone looked relieved and started talking again. The spell was gone. Humanity’s desire for the abhorrent and the profane is too natural and strong without authoritative intervention.


What goes around, comes around.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 06:54:29Copy HTML

On a more current note, an undergraduate black student at Columbia who decided to study music recently rebelled against Mozart. “Why did I have to listen in music humanities to this Mozart?” she raged against Euro-Western civilizational giants, “My problem with the core is that it upholds the premises of white supremacy and racism. It’s a racist core. Who is this Mozart, this Haydn, these superior white men? There are no women, no people of color.”



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What’s your response to such an outburst?


I shake my head slightly and move on.  Who is going to explain the test of time to such a mind made up, but of course that is the perfect moment......when they ask.

What goes around, comes around.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 07:00:34Copy HTML

That, and several other such incidents are charted in the new book by Heather Mac Donald, The Diversity Delusion: How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture, which attempts to understand the roots of our current cultural crisis, and traces it back to the universities, the incubation ground for social strife that we are witnessing across the West.

Take the Brett Kavanaugh episode, for example. After the Republican front line faltered and rolled over on instances such as his forceful tone in self-defense, trying to do exactly the type of bipartisan do-gooderism that they are accused of from the right, the left has already started to move goalposts. But interesting in this is the combined assault from a certain section of media, and academia.

Even before the FBI started to investigate, sociologists started writing op-eds in Washington Post saying how Kavanaugh was certainly guilty, because he allegedly lied about his drinking, and Kavanaugh’s elite upbringing and privilege was responsible for his outburst. I’d have imagined any normal sane man, if accused of being a part of rape gangs, would sue for defamation, and by that logic Kavanaugh was pretty restrained.


Simultaneously, at the University of Southern California’s campus, students and a section of professors harassed another professor for having the temerity to declare that women can also lie, and accusers are not automatically the victim, no matter how convincingly they can weep on camera. Hard, rational evidence is the key. If you don’t understand how these two are connected, this unholy alliance between a section of media and academia in a constant crusade to change society from within, pick up a copy of Mac Donald’s new book.


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I’ve ignored the Kavanaugh threads..........just so you know.

What goes around, comes around.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 07:09:23Copy HTML

Mac Donald’s thesis is that “entire [academic] fields have sprung up around race, ethnicity, sex, and gender identity,” which fuels a victimology, which leads to “violent efforts to shut down speech that challenges campus orthodoxies.” For decades, a section of academia grew within Western society that has consistently taught students that all politics is personal.

This section of academia, which includes overt and covert Marxist and feminist pedagogy, has resulted in the idea that there’s an existential crisis within society, and that everyone to the right of Leon Trotsky is not just an ideological opponent but evil. Conservatives, therefore, are a threat to society and life in general, and in any existential war, you either win or you perish. From this lens, consider the two activists cornering Sen. Jeff Flake in an elevator, arguing hysterically how their “experiences” are being erased, and it all suddenly makes sense.

The idea that a section of academia is preparing for a soft coup within the West is not a new thesis. Recently, several articles and books have been written on this, including by Joy Pullmann, Michael Shermer, Peter Hitchens, Roger Kimball, and Victor Davis Hanson. Mac Donald’s book, however, is the first that provides case after case explaining how this is playing out, chronicling a cancer which has metastasized and spread across institutions and professions, from media, to think tanks, to activism, to campus censors, to government bureaucracy.  It’s often easy to discard the idea of a “long march through the institutions” as a right-wing conspiracy theory, without evidence. Mac Donald provides the evidence in this book.


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I splurged on Steven Pinker recently, so this book won’t be leaving the wish list for quite a while. If you ve read or read it, let me know whether it’s worth the time, money.

What goes around, comes around.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 07:13:57Copy HTML

There are hundreds of cases involving the completely unscientific, uncorroborated, and unreplicable Implicit Bias Test, which supposedly proves that everyone has hidden racial and sexual prejudices. This has been cited to shape university courses and enrollment of students who are academically inferior and discrimination against students who are hardworking and meritorious, as well as police reforms and crime stats.

Or consider how certain academics, found at colleges across the country such as the University of Missouri, Pomona, Claremont Mckenna, the University of California at Los Angeles, and Berkeley have used agitated students as pawns to control the academy and stifle conservative voices. Or how it has spawned a burgeoning diversity bureaucracy that treats students as consumers, whose feelings come paramount, compared to facts. The feminist sex panic, which defies statistics; the diversity agenda, which stifles innovation in tech giants; the university departments, which ditch Beethoven for Baha Men — the list is never-ending and interconnected.

The result? The products of these universities are out now in the streets, and in media and other professions, as radical activists fomenting a social revolution. That was the purpose of these activist academics, and that arguably is now bearing fruit.


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This section reminds me of the Cultural Revolution in China, you may recall how well that turned out for folks high, low, and in the middle.

What goes around, comes around.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 07:27:48Copy HTML

In Mac Donald’s words, “Progressive pedagogy has long embraced the idea that students should work exclusively in groups as a way to model collectivist democracy. This political agenda is simply a pretext for masking individual differences in achievement that might reinforce group stereotypes” and “the consequences of that cultural revolution are all around us: lagging education levels, the lowest male workforce participation rate since the Great Depression, opioid abuse, and high illegitimacy rates.”

What now, and how to stop this rapid descent to chaos? Taxpayers need to ask their politicians and representatives, organize movements demanding answers, and if need be demand legislative interference and accountability from institutions of higher learning. But to understand the sources of social unrest in the West, Mac Donald’s latest is a good start.


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I have always hated working in groups.  And yet, the members tend to improve challenged by their betters. Teaching without pay is a drain, and frankly what you learn from it is disappointing.......AP classes are better.  Phase learning for the rest was more beneficial.  Tests that identify where a student is and places them wher they will succeed are far better, as the military eventually discovered, many years ago.

What goes around, comes around.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 07:53:30Copy HTML

MacDonald’s words, “Progressive pedagogy has long embraced the idea that students should work exclusively in groups as a way to model collectivist democracy. This political agenda is simply a pretext for masking individual differences in achievement that might reinforce group stereotypes” and “the consequences of that cultural revolution are all around us: lagging education levels, the lowest male workforce participation rate since the Great Depression, opioid abuse, and high illegitimacy rates.” What now, and how to stop this rapid descent to chaos? Taxpayers need to ask their politicians and representatives, organize movements demanding answers, and if need be demand legislative interference and accountability from institutions of higher learning. But to understand the sources of social unrest in the West, Mac Donald’s latest is a good start. ................ Sometime ago, I read, Who Killed Homer? and was relieved that my education came just as he was beginning to leave the core requirements...not gone. I had a professor fighting to keep tenure, not that he was personally threatened, on the verge of retirement and tenured, but that tenure was the means, the safety needed for the honest exploration of truth and revealing it. Tenure to me at the time was more likely to produce lazy professors who didn’t care whether you learned, attended class or listened to them in class. They just collect a paycheck. Still, that brief conversation with the professor who recited long, relevant passages from great writers in his classes, made me think....Tenured vs Non. Oddly in my realm, the non tenured were my worst instructors, much more like what I had thought of Tenured. It’s a mystery.....
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 09:16:08Copy HTML

On a more current note, an undergraduate black student at Columbia who decided to study music recently rebelled against Mozart. “Why did I have to listen in music humanities to this Mozart?” she raged against Euro-Western civilizational giants, “My problem with the core is that it upholds the premises of white supremacy and racism. It’s a racist core. Who is this Mozart, this Haydn, these superior white men? There are no women, no people of color.”



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What’s your response to such an outburst?


I shake my head slightly and move on.  Who is going to explain the test of time to such a mind made up, but of course that is the perfect moment......when they ask.


A mind made-up would be to dismiss his ideas as nonsense. How many African or Indian or Asian composers do you think children of any race in this country study? Do you think it's because there are none? 

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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 10:15:02Copy HTML

I wonder how musicians and music educators who are dedicated to spreading the gospel of music, such as Wynton Marsalis would counsel this angry student?  As someone who enjoys musical contributions from every corner of the earth, I'm aware of a vast and rich inventory of music we are privileged to be able to enjoy today.  If you look at the curricula of most music departments of colleges today, you'll find them eclectic - by no means is study confined only to "dead white composers".  


The average person is going to prefer those musical references, traditions, conventions they've been exposed to throughout their lives.  These will have emotional resonance often. "Other" music may sound strange, dissonant or jarring, though like other unfamiliar sensory experiences it can become an acquired taste.  I love ancient Sephardic music, to some it sounds like no more than wailing.  Someone raised listening almost exclusively to popular American music is likely not going to love right away Mongolian throat singing.  Hippies in the US had a crush on Indian Sitar music a while back.  Japan, while it has its own musical traditions comprises a huge audience for "dead white composers," without apparent worry over the political implications.  Likewise, China.  


Not going to overthink this - my first thought is "what a shame".  This student seems to be reciting victimology script, though is likely, as most young people are, sincere in his passion.  







O ye wha are sae guid yoursel', Sae pious and sae holy, Ye've nought to do but mark and tell Your neibours' fauts and folly! -- Robert Burns (Address to the Unco Guid)
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:22-12-2018 11:11:45Copy HTML

In answer to own question as to how Marsalis might address the unhappy music undergrad, excerpt below. He conveys far better than I in what way music transcends issues of diversity.


Wynton Marsalis is at his best playing the trumpet, but he’s hardly at his second best when he is talking to young people. Relaxed as he ambles around the stage, he addresses them without notes, using meaningful language, speaking without condescension, and rising to genuine inspiration.

A week ago, before the morning dress rehearsal of his blues oratorio “All Rise,” Marsalis talked to a diverse audience of teenagers from 26 high schools, assembled in Symphony Hall from all across the state. He had everyone hanging on every word, even though his remarks lasted longer than an Easter sermon. If he hadn’t gone into music, Marsalis might have become a great preacher.

He led the group through the history of “All Rise” and surveyed his intentions in each of its 12 movements. But it was his way of moving toward meaning that was unforgettable. Pointing out the diversity of musical influences that flow into the piece, Marsalis said he wasn’t as interested in the differences among different kinds of music as in the roots that feed all of them — the common language, the human experiences, and the stories that lie underneath. “There is no need to put one kind of music before the others,” he said. ...

https://wyntonmarsalis.org/news/entry/wynton-teaches-the-meaning-behind-the-music

And... because it's Christmas, himself performing Haydn Trumpet Concerto

https://youtu.be/hb5MSJcBb9o





O ye wha are sae guid yoursel', Sae pious and sae holy, Ye've nought to do but mark and tell Your neibours' fauts and folly! -- Robert Burns (Address to the Unco Guid)
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:29-12-2018 09:18:16Copy HTML

Thank you! No need to put one kind of music before another....Yes! That was an immense frustration as Bach and Beethoven were compared and contrasted by AP students for essay points and grades by their teacher; I assisted, but my heart was never in it. Personal preference is sacred and testing it against others, especially when some enjoyed both composers had to be training for world domination .... I didn’t care for her perspective on that either, leaders so full of themselves....Mussolini came to mind and his demise I wished for none of her students. Glad to leave her whereabouts at the semester’s end. Bing, Bang, and Bongo.....the American essay went with me though...lol
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:29-12-2018 09:30:00Copy HTML



I was really stressed while serving on the city council about 3 years into my 4 year term, trying to get public transportation prepaid as it was in parts of Washington state.  Flute music was played during a symposium that let ideas flow easily onto the pages for me.  I thought of it before and during interviews with media and before the legislature which proved successful.....road builders that they tend to be.   

What goes around, comes around.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:29-12-2018 10:04:07Copy HTML

Most modern noise is derivative of classical music as the classics were derivative in their day...it’s fluid and knowing where it comes from doesn’t hurt nor help a musician anymore than the study of poetry does a poet. It may obfuscate better music and poetry which is totally embarrassing when someone comes out of nowhere with knowledge of it and compares it to the inferior brilliance that is mine......a crushed and hating life event for those with no respect for the dead who should be bettered, not ignored. Asian, white, or black if one has to hear music by race. I don’t think race when I hear music. Barely tolerate country or jazz. Rock and Roll gets me up to dance. I have not grown up enough to appreciate opera, especially the Chinese opera which like nails on chalkboard hurts, just hurts my ears. Painful as it always is, I keep trying because some of it is fine. I think it appeals to people who can’t hear very well...lol...sorry. My Vermont high school English class taught one Dickens novel and one Shakespeare play each year. Unforgettable. Now excerpts are taught even in college, it’s a blur as I recall.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:29-12-2018 11:06:16Copy HTML

 

On a more current note, an undergraduate black student at Columbia who decided to study music recently rebelled against Mozart. “Why did I have to listen in music humanities to this Mozart?” she raged against Euro-Western civilizational giants, “My problem with the core is that it upholds the premises of white supremacy and racism. It’s a racist core. Who is this Mozart, this Haydn, these superior white men? There are no women, no people of color.”

Excuse me? How the hell is it a racist core? Even given that that different civilizations give rise to different music forms, different instruments, etc., that doesn't make, however racist that culture, the particular notes of a composition racist. What kind of moron would say something like this? Now you could argue that if it were ONLY Mozart and Haydn who were featured in a musical composition class (as opposed to a classical music class) then the curriculum were racist. But the music itself?


How dumbass can one get.

~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:29-12-2018 11:11:53Copy HTML

To the theme of the thread in general, yes, we get that right now there are certain groups who, because of attempts to right past injustices, are taking issues beyond reason. As always, however, in time there will be a reaction which will swing the other way. Where that swinging back stops marks the point of the progress made on that issue. To typify the concerns of that given group regarding those past injustices by the reactions the extreme would be to overshoot the mark.
Nickel Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #15
  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:03-01-2019 04:44:57Copy HTML

To right the past injustices at the present’s expense.....not a fan. No one can change the past, truly know the past, or the people involved. Shoot we hardly know each other now. We can change the future, today. Plenty of injustice happening today, and what we do or don’t will change tomorrow to something we want or don’t. I am a big fan of lessons from the past that can be applied today. No culture is completely innocent, all have had slaves, status, good and bad. Those that returned to Africa, set up similar injustice systems. We’re a work in progress, can’t unring the bell. Can’t bring my great uncle, a Union soldier who died in Richmond prison back to life, allow him to have Descendants, or compensate the family for his lost potential. It’s not like the 20 pounds my g+grandfather Isaac got for the wrongful hanging of his wife Mary (TOWNE) ESTEY as a witch in Salem, based on his expenses taking her to and from court. It’s specific and timely. Can’t expect the families of Irish slaves gathered in the fields of Ireland by Cromwell’s troops shipped at English expense to the colonies, given away for free, and worked to death in Connecticut factories to receive compensation. One of my ancestors survived that, somehow. It’s a typical story for Americans whose families have been here a while. California treated Filipinos, badly, until it was brought into line with the country. America in My Heart is a good read by an experienced Filipino. Actually, I probably need to read that again, since I still can’t imagine embracing America as he did after his experience. Of course escaping Spanish rule likely made it more likely. All of our culture clashes are good to know, but let flow emotionally and financially into the river and away......unfortunately that’s not typical, shoot I cried reading g+grandmother Mary’s testimony during her Salem Witch trial.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:03-01-2019 09:11:27Copy HTML

Mongolian Folk Metal....



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  • From:USA

Re:The Diversity Delusion.....at last!

Date Posted:04-01-2019 04:36:57Copy HTML

What goes around, comes around.
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