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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:04-09-2017 06:27:20Copy HTML

The fossil record really does not support evolution.      Folk may respond that there are other evidences that do - but true or not, that does not change the fact that the fossil record itself does not support it.

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/fossil-record/hopeful-monsters-of-evolution/

Since the time of Darwin, evolutionists have looked to the fossil record for historical evidence of evolution. Most evolutionists now concede, however, that the fossil record fails to show the progressive transformation of any living organism into a distinctly different kind of organism. This has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists—but they have made it clear that they will not be dissuaded by the mere lack of evidence, nor will they turn to a Creator to explain this enigma. Rather, evolutionists hope that monsters may come to their rescue!


Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:02-02-2018 06:41:48Copy HTML

 Meanwhile, you continue to lie. 

If you think I haven't answered something, you would need to let me know what that is idiot.  I believe I have answered every question you have ever asked me.  You don't believe I have.   Sitting in your mom's basement typing "I am waiting" wont get you to where you allegedly want to be moron.

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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:03-02-2018 04:44:39Copy HTML

It will be brutal  for all of us - apart from a Redeemer - given the evil that dwells with in us.  As noted in

http://forum2.aimoo.com/FSA/This-life-and-the-after-life/We-are-all-going-to-stand-before-the-Judge-one-day-3-1354462.html

But meanwhile, here, I continue to wait.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:03-02-2018 07:08:32Copy HTML

You talk a load of bollocks, never answering either skwanderer's or my requests for evidence.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:03-02-2018 10:27:21Copy HTML

I have been asking for evidence of one of your recent claims for quite some time, and you have played games there Yobbo.

How serious am I supposed to take you?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:04-02-2018 01:32:51Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

I have been asking for evidence of one of your recent claims for quite some time, and you have played games there Yobbo.

How serious am I supposed to take you?


Let us start again.  Produce evidence of your claims and questions.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:04-02-2018 02:06:53Copy HTML

You asked a few times in the other thread, I make it as easy as possible, and still you disappear.

Sorry, I can't take you seriously.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:05-02-2018 11:53:22Copy HTML

 Tomas continues to lie.  and lie.....and lie.


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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:06-02-2018 01:55:44Copy HTML

Well, when we stand before the Judge one day, the hidden issues of our hearts will be revealed, yes?
Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:06-02-2018 11:45:41Copy HTML

 If so, you are fucked.  You lie so often only a God could keep track.  Ive been waiting for over five years for you to answer every single question Ive ever asked you.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:09-02-2018 02:25:23Copy HTML

If so, you are fucked

We both are, without a Redeemer - and if we are honest enough, we each will admit that

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:12-02-2018 12:29:27Copy HTML

Edit above to include the comma - it actually conveys better what I was saying there.
Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:12-02-2018 10:01:55Copy HTML

 No I'm not fucked at all Tomas.  Even your God knows I'm not a liar.   You alone are fucked.  Sorry. 
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:13-02-2018 06:38:01Copy HTML

All of us have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God.


All of us - including you and I.   And if there is no redeemer for us, then yes, we are all screwed.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #134
  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:13-02-2018 06:28:05Copy HTML

Providing, of course, that the vindictive, sociopathic, narcissistic god that you worship actually exists.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:15-02-2018 05:22:06Copy HTML

No, the Creator who I refer to is described in the Bible - not the one living in your imagination there.


The same one whose Son Jesus died on a cross for your evils, Bogus, that you might live, Bogus - that you could be set free.    You and I have never shown anywhere near that kind of love to anyone.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:15-02-2018 08:57:40Copy HTML

Why are there so many halfwits in America?  So many believers in fairy tales.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:Unknown

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:15-02-2018 06:47:24Copy HTML

 Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.

I provide over 100 examples of actual tangible observed witnessed recorded documented proven instances of evolution.....and Tomas says I have not provided evidence.

That is a special kind of sickness.  A person like this can literally believe whatever they like.

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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:15-02-2018 07:25:47Copy HTML

No, the Creator who I refer to is described in the Bible - ...

To wit (skwanderer saved me the time of typing it myself):
God created man

God created sin

God had Adam and Eve populate earth by incest

God knew man would accept sin

God drowned all men but Noah and kids even though he knew most men would sin, his creation

Noah repopulated earth by incest ......a second time

God knew sin would come back ....because he is God

Bible says most people will go to hell for eternity, because of sin god created and knew we would choose

Here's the important part.  He loves you and is very tolerant of your sins.

Now off to the lake of fire for the vast majority of you. Thank you for your admiration.

All of that certainly, at the very least, hints at the sociopathic, vindictive, narcissistic nature of the god described in the bible.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:16-02-2018 03:23:05Copy HTML

For while Bogus, Skwanderer, Yobbo, and Tomas were enemies of God, God's Son Jesus died for each of us.


The wages of sin is death (and we all die, yes?), but the gift of God is eternal life - through His Son Jesus.


Quite a love story - if not true, someone in their right mind would certainly wish it was, eh?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:16-02-2018 10:41:50Copy HTML

PFFFT

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:17-02-2018 08:29:22Copy HTML

Well, you will get the chance to express that sentiment face to face one day.   If you still abide by that


Am curious why you (and Skwander, etc.) think it would have been better for God to have created us as just slaves or robots.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:17-02-2018 09:09:56Copy HTML

No Tom.  You DO NOT get to shove your own thoughts on to me and others and then argue as though they are not your own.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:17-02-2018 09:36:15Copy HTML

God could create man with choice, or as a robot/slave.  Or not create man.

You were criticized his creating man with choice in an earlier post - therefore which then of the other two options is it?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:17-02-2018 10:00:17Copy HTML

Just fucking stop lying Tom.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:17-02-2018 10:04:27Copy HTML

So, now, using logic and deduction is the same as lying?

There are only three choices I can think of that you are giving God.

1.Create man with choice

2.Don't create man

3.Create man as robot/slave.



How are noting the only three choices I can see "lying"?  Especially as you don't offer any other, or refute the above?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:18-02-2018 03:22:52Copy HTML

No, you lying sack of crap.  I do not, as you accuse in your in question, believe that using logic and deduction is the same as lying.

Just stop lying, Tom.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:18-02-2018 07:17:43Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

So, now, using logic and deduction is the same as lying?

There are only three choices I can think of that you are giving God.

1.Create man with choice

2.Don't create man

3.Create man as robot/slave.


I don't believe it is logical to attribute existence to your god -  it is imaginary.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:19-02-2018 02:09:23Copy HTML

But Yobbo, that misses the point.

I am addressing their critique of the God of the Bible.     which clearly is inaccurate.

And there are three possibilities regarding that ....

1.Create man with choice

2.Don't create man

3.Create man as robot/slave.


Skw and Bogus are complaining about the first option.  That is what I am addressing.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:19-02-2018 06:34:38Copy HTML

Skwanderer, I'm sure, thinks your god is imaginary as I do.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:USA

Re:The Hopeful Monsters of Evolution

Date Posted:20-02-2018 12:50:50Copy HTML

Sure - but again, that misses the point being discussed.  And frankly, that makes for a sad commentary.

We could discuss,  you know, the Lord of the Rings, though not of us see it as anything but fiction.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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