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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:17-02-2018 10:26:29Copy HTML

"they" being evolutionists.


The article actually has to be read in its entirety to understand that.  But additionally it is worth reading if one wants a better understanding of why supposed discoveries by evolutionists do not make the impact as expected.


https://answersingenesis.org/geology/rock-layers/digging-in-wrong-place/?utm_source=articlesmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2-banner-cta&utm_campaign=20171230&mc_cid=3d3aec65b9&mc_eid=cab2b47150

Each year there are many headlines, books, technical articles, and videos about another supposed missing link—a supposed link between a land mammal and whale, a dinosaur and bird, an ape and human, and so forth. Usually, these are quite easy to refute by anatomical features.

For example, alleged missing links turn out to be anything but—for example, either ape, human, or a fake (e.g., Piltdown man) or dinosaur, bird, or a fake (e.g., Archaeoraptor).

Nevertheless, these alleged missing links rarely make creationists cringe. I think it frustrates some of the evolutionists because they think they have found some sort of knock-out evidence that they interpret as support for evolution. But creationists rarely bat an eye.

Well, I’m going to let you in on a secret as to why creationists rarely take notice of these alleged missing links. It is because the evolutionists are digging in the wrong place—just like the bad guys in Indiana Jones. When you don’t have the correct information, you can miss the mark significantly.


Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:05-03-2018 07:28:57Copy HTML

 If the dispute was simply over the American vs. the British use of the word - you could have brought that up in the original thread, and not find folk disagreeing with you as they did.   You did not.

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Imagine my shock to find Tomas still obfuscating and not answering any of the demonstrable proofs of of the fact of evolution I have posted in all of his repetitive nonsense creationist threads.

I don't dispute the definition of majority at all.  The americans also use the word to mean "the greater number".   The English dictionary applies to all English speaking nations.  There is no rule anywhere that says the americans don't use it to mean "the greater number".  They do.  I did.  You lose. 

Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #32
  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:07-03-2018 06:33:07Copy HTML

Well, maybe one day you will have the courage of your 'convictions' and try to note that in the original thread.  Of course, you know you dare not - harder to distort what you originally said when it is in the same thread.

But as long as you continue to play games here, I can hardly expect you to handle science with any more integrity, true?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:07-03-2018 06:14:14Copy HTML

I usually mean the overall majority but it is totally acceptable to use the word to mean greatest number.
Why does Tom
ás persist in arguing that one definition is right and the other is wrong?
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:07-03-2018 07:10:52Copy HTML

 Because he is mentally unwell.  Oh wait...that was probably a rhetorical question.  My apologies.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:08-03-2018 06:31:02Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

I usually mean the overall majority but it is totally acceptable to use the word to mean greatest number.
Why does Tom
ás persist in arguing that one definition is right and the other is wrong?


Because of the dictionary, Yobbo - including the ones Skw quoted.

Nor am I saying the British use of the word for the British is wrong.    But that would be clearer if we were discussing this in the original thread.  Which we all know Skw will stay away from doing.

It is interesting that, when the American usage of the word does come up in later threads, on the  political forum, he no longer tries to 'argue' it.  

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:08-03-2018 09:10:25Copy HTML

Reply to skwanderer

 Because he is mentally unwell.  Oh wait...that was probably a rhetorical question.  My apologies.
 

No worries.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:08-03-2018 07:30:44Copy HTML

 Because of the dictionary, Yobbo - including the ones Skw quoted.

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You are lying. Another shocker.

majority


See definition of majority

noun

1‘in the majority of cases’

SYNONYMS

larger number, larger part, greater number, greater part,


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  • From:New_zealand

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:08-03-2018 08:35:44Copy HTML

  1. The greater number.   as modifier ‘it was a majority decision

  2. British The number by which the votes cast for one party or candidate exceed those for the next.
    ‘Labour retained the seat with a majority of 9,830’

  3. A party or group receiving the greater number of votes.

  4. US The number by which votes for one candidate are more than those for all other candidates together.


Sorry about the 2-4-6

from https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/majority


Always accepting that this site is not really an appropriate place to have a discussion about grammar

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #39
  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 05:36:06Copy HTML

Always accepting that this site is not really an appropriate place to have a discussion about grammar


Actually, the original thread would be the ideal place, since that is where this came up.  But you won't see Skw returning to that as noted.

And the irony of his link in his last post - he might want to read the entire piece linked to.   Seriously guys, get your heads in the game.


Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 10:38:03Copy HTML

Tom, it may come as a complete surprise to you than no one is under any obligation to participate in any thread you deem that they should, stating what you dictate they should.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 05:26:52Copy HTML

 Actually, the original thread would be the ideal place, since that is where this came up.  But you won't see Skw returning to that as noted.


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I'm happy to do so, but I have shown you that the definition also means "the greater number" about 50 times.  Will 51 times in that other thread be the magic that finally allows you to realize it in fact also means :"the greater number"? 

No, it wont.  Convincing you that every dictionary on earth also defines the word majority as "the greater number" has not been possible in any thread, why would it be possible in that one?


You are a lying idiot.


Again, Imagine my shock that Tomas is till unalbe to respond to any science posted on the topic he started.


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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 06:44:07Copy HTML

Reply to Bogus0Pomp

Tom, it may come as a complete surprise to you than no one is under any obligation to participate in any thread you deem that they should, stating what you dictate they should.


Of course not - not saying they are under obligation - only, as in this case, if Skw wants any credibility.   If he is fine avoiding context, hey, you  are right, his choice.   But others are also free to point that out.

As it is, his own recent link he provided shows he is wrong - but he does that selective reading thing that is pretty common to the human condition.  Something we all to various degrees need to guard against.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 08:46:54Copy HTML

 Tomas, what difference does it make if I show you that every dictionary on earth also defines "majority" as the greater number in this thread or that one?   Where I say it doesn't change the message....that you are wrong. 

Majority also means the greater number....period.  You are mentally unwell.


....and, we have to say once again....imagine my shock Tomas has run away from the debate on evolution.

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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 08:51:59Copy HTML

As it is, his own recent link he provided shows he is wrong -

___  No it does not.  You are lying

The definition that you believe is the only definition is the one at the bottom.  The others mean....the greater number...because they say...the greater number.

You are very seriously mentally ill Tomas.


 majority

nounPlural majorities

  • 1The greater number.

    ‘in the majority of cases all will go smoothly’
    as modifier ‘it was a majority decision’
    • ‘The draft constitution was voted yesterday by the overall majority of the Iraqi people.’
    • ‘Overwhelming majorities of Americans believe the federal government isn't doing enough to protect the environment.’
    • ‘The BCC's majority shareholder is the state, through the Ministry of Finance.’
    • ‘The majority of respondents had received their basic nursing education at the baccalaureate level.’
    • ‘How do you respond to this large silent majority of religious people who are being wedged out of the conversation?’
    • ‘He recently, for the first time, became the club's majority shareholder.’
    • ‘The Austrian company wanted a majority stake, while Mobiltel offered a minority stake.’
    • ‘I totally agree with the thought that he is mistaken in the majority of his decisions, don't you?’
    • ‘Christians still comprise the majority of Arab Americans nationally.’
    • ‘Ultimately phone masts are here to stay as the majority don't want poor or patchy reception.’
    • ‘Women are now a majority of students at America's colleges.’
    • ‘Should I really just accept decisions of the majority of the town council, and not speak out if I believe them to be wrong?’
    • ‘Medieval agriculture was undertaken by peasants who of course constituted the overwhelming majority of the total population.’
    • ‘But the latter will not be possible if a country's majority does not understand the language of government.’
    • ‘Still, most human rights lawyers read the majority opinion as a major disappointment.’
    • ‘The monarchy has its roots in the tribal leadership among the country's Pashtun majority in the south.’
    • ‘The initiative was passed by a majority of voters in San Diego County.’
    • ‘They constitute the great majority of the people.’
    • ‘A survey of shoppers conducted at the same time showed a clear majority in favour of the development, however.’
    • ‘"Their proposals are a cynical, deceptive way to recreate some form of unionist majority rule.’
    larger number, larger part, greater number, greater part, major part, best part, better part, main part, most, more than half
    View synonyms
    1. 1.1British The number by which the votes cast for one party or candidate exceed those for the next.
      ‘Labour retained the seat with a majority of 9,830’
      • ‘The constituency is currently a Tory seat with a majority of 11, 238 in the last election.’
      • ‘He currently has a majority of 4,922 votes - surely enough to defeat the Conservative in second place.’
      • ‘In the end, the most vicious electoral battle of 2005 was won with a majority of 823 votes.’
      • ‘Mr Davey held his seat in Kingston and Surbiton with a reduced majority of 8,966 votes.’
      • ‘Griffin could do real damage to Ann Cryer's slender Labour majority of just 4,005.’
      • ‘In this example, the clear winner is candidate A with a majority over Candidate B of 5,000.’
      • ‘He came in third with 3,680 votes, while Mr Pope won the seat with a majority of 8,219.’
      • ‘At the last general election in 2001 he had a majority of 4,275 votes over the Conservative candidate.’
    2. 1.2 A party or group receiving the greater number of votes.
      • ‘The new premier must still form a government that commands a majority in the legislature or call new polls.’
      • ‘McKibbin is right, however, to point out that massive Parliamentary majorities emasculate political parties and their ideologies.’
      • ‘Following a number of defections from other parties, Thai Rak Thai commanded an absolute majority in parliament.’
      • ‘Chuck Schumer rose to ask whether the Senate majority leader might yield for a question.’
      • ‘Chen has never commanded a majority in the legislature.’
      • ‘But does this have the fact of disqualifying the Labour majority from considering the planning application?’
      • ‘Just before Thanksgiving, Senate majority leader Tom Daschle ducked questions about the military tribunals.’
      • ‘In last June's general elections, the party lost its parliamentary majority.’
    3. 1.3US The number by which votes for one candidate are more than those for all other candidates together.
      • ‘Without this shift, Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes.’


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I have ALWAYS agreed that it can also mean more than half.  But you are mentally ill and cannot see clearly that the definition means the greater number as well.  Definition #1.

If you can stop lying for a second, perhaps you want to get back to the topic and tell me what is wrong with the science you have thus far refused to discuss.

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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:09-03-2018 09:22:25Copy HTML

 PS.  I DID tell you that majority also meant the greater number in that original thread; hence, if 50 times telling and showing you that majority also means the greater number in every thread it was discussed cannot penetrate your mental illness and stupidity, then what would?
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:10-03-2018 03:27:31Copy HTML

It is easier for you to shift what the actual discussion was about, by avoiding the original thread. And, as Bogus points out - you are certainly free to avoid the original thread where we have the context, etc.   Heaven forbid you have to admit yourself wrong about what you went about on the original thread.


Let me ask all a few simple questions - of course, I am sure some excuse will be given about 'freedom' there also, but hey, here is hoping:


Q1: the original thread was on what?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:13-03-2018 05:56:34Copy HTML

Can I ask what Christian faith you are? You may have a huge difference with non believers but I hope you realize you will also have a great distance with those of other Christian faiths.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:13-03-2018 06:04:47Copy HTML

The dividing line between a Christian and one who is not is in regard to the historical death and resurrection of Jesus, the Son of God.

If one rejects that, one is not a Christian, per the resounding teaching throughout the New Testament.   If we are both agreed with that there, what huge differences do you see?

If we are not agreed there, then what you are calling 'Christian faiths' may not always be accurate.  

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:13-03-2018 06:46:29Copy HTML

Who is to call one's  Christian faith "not accurate," those who don't belong to that faith.?I'm at peace, what else matters, it's not decided by a book or those on this earth.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:13-03-2018 06:48:39Copy HTML

You have not answered out of all the hundreds of Christian faiths who do you stand with?
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #51
  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:13-03-2018 07:52:00Copy HTML

If you deny the resurrection of Jesus, does it matter - in the context of what you were asking?

Given the words of Jesus, there is no peace with God apart from Jesus.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:19-03-2018 04:12:17Copy HTML

 It is easier for you to shift what the actual discussion was about, by avoiding the original thread. And, as Bogus points out -

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The irony Tomas the lying asshat avoiding his own thread on evolution.

Tomas my dear lying friend.  As you well know I didn't avoid that thread at all.  I responded to you...with the dictionary definition of majority.....that proved you wrong for the 1,457th time in our discussions.

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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:19-03-2018 11:16:36Copy HTML

Post 46 Skwanderer............  still waiting on that question.


And yes, questions were posted to you in the original thread and you disappeared.  Those questions still wait there.

 Come to think of it, there is another thread where you did that recently.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:20-03-2018 03:45:56Copy HTML

I've answered your question.  I know what the original thread was about....the election.  Hillary had the majority of votes (the greater number), and lost in a plurality (not more than 50%).  Get it?  See: Webster, Oxford, Funk and Wagonell, etc.

Now then, how about for the first time in your life you respond to the evolution data I posted in this thread about evolution?  That would be something, wouldn't it?

Imagine that, Tomas actually responding on topic in a thread he started. 



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  • From:Unknown

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:20-03-2018 03:49:39Copy HTML

 And yes, questions were posted to you in the original thread and you disappeared. 

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I  answered the questions.  I understand you refuse to accept my answer, but I answered and I stand by the answer.  You believe someone to be stubborn simply because they don't agree with whatever fairy tale you are peddling that day. That is not stubborn Tomas.  That is disagreeing with you.  When I disagree with you, I provide evidence and data to back it up.  You do not.  You are a pathetic lying fool.

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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:21-03-2018 03:45:01Copy HTML

And from the  link you provided, we have this definition, yes?


US The number by which votes for one candidate are more than those for all other candidates together.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:25-03-2018 02:58:54Copy HTML

I think we all know the answer is yes.  Which clearly proves our friend Skw wrong, but as he is gone now, whether he would have conceded or found another creative way to avoid admitting being in error one can only speculate.

And the main point of this - if on something so simple one refuses to admit being in error, what expectations are there for discussing more complicated topics with the hope of making any headway?

And it was not just with Skw.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:25-03-2018 03:07:21Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

I think we all know the answer is yes.  Which clearly proves our friend Skw wrong, but as he is gone now, whether he would have conceded or found another creative way to avoid admitting being in error one can only speculate.

And the main point of this - if on something so simple one refuses to admit being in error, what expectations are there for discussing more complicated topics with the hope of making any headway?

And it was not just with Skw.


Nope. He is back now.  He will soon be back to calling you all sorts of names. 
“A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.” ― Douglas Adams
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Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:25-03-2018 03:24:56Copy HTML

Really?   Must have joined under a different name.

Thanks.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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  • From:USA

Re:They Are Digging in the Wrong Place

Date Posted:25-03-2018 03:26:58Copy HTML

My mistake - same name I see, 3 days ago.   Old account apparently deleted.   Interesting.  That is different.
Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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