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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:05-06-2018 05:33:43Copy HTML

And that is how one keeps the sheep in place - a little knowledge is a glorious way of doing that.

Author demonstrates that in the article linked below. And of course, it is not just true with the topic of origins.

https://evolutionnews.org/2018/05/for-selling-evolution-a-little-knowledge-is-a-glorious-thing/

because in my experience, many Americans accept evolution because they are uninformed. That is, they have heard the popular arguments for the theory but have encountered little if any of the strongest evidence against it. 

Even many highly educated evolutionists betray a curious ignorance of evidence against evolution, evidence that sits in plain sight both in and beyond the peer-reviewed literature.


Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #61
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:16-06-2018 10:57:25Copy HTML

Actually, the truth is Yobbo, is that you don't want to know.  That is the problem.

So instead (as a lost sheep) ....

many Americans (and foreigners) accept evolution because they are uninformed. That is, they have heard the popular arguments for the theory but have encountered little if any of the strongest evidence against it. 

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #62
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 02:01:18Copy HTML

Reply to Tomlapaz

Actually, the truth is Yobbo, is that you don't want to know.  That is the problem.

So instead (as a lost sheep) ....

many Americans (and foreigners) accept evolution because they are uninformed. That is, they have heard the popular arguments for the theory but have encountered little if any of the strongest evidence against it. 


There are no scientific arguments against it, otherwise you would  have produced them.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #63
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 02:03:26Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

Reply to Yobbo

Tomás, provide the evidence for divine creation of the figures in nature.

I'd really like to read what evidence you have that god did it all.

Was #61 a reply to this?  If so, you failed.

"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #64
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 03:40:07Copy HTML

How is posting something true a sign of failure?   If you could be honest with yourself, you would admit that you are not really interested.

And as such, makes it easier for you to remain uninformed.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #65
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 06:07:18Copy HTML

Just outline your evidence again, I seem to have missed it.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #66
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 12:55:17Copy HTML

And you miss it because you want to - don't you get it?

Have you read the link?   Or just what was excerpted?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #67
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 02:47:29Copy HTML

Page 3 Update:  FSA thread on the importance of knowledge about the evidence against evolution.

No evidence against evolution posted as yet.

Next Update - Page 4.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #68
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 03:06:32Copy HTML

 Actually, the truth is Yobbo, is that you don't want to know.  That is the problem.

___


I want to know.  I have been begging you to give me the evidence against evolution that you believe me to be unaware. I have spent a lot of time researching the creationist evidence.

Can you provide it?  Unlike you, Ill accept links to your "science" and not demand you write it in your own words or that you have participated in the actual study.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #69
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 05:26:16Copy HTML

Neither one of you really do not want to know.  Thus the new thread, which goes at this from a different angle - but even there that apparently was asking too much.


Feel free to list the major pieces of either the creation scientists' position, or even the ID folk (the OP link was received from them, for those who just never got around to actually reading it).

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #70
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 06:16:14Copy HTML

The link you posted does not explain why the author thinks god did it.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #71
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:17-06-2018 06:19:34Copy HTML

Should it?   Did you read the article?
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skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #72
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:18-06-2018 05:08:34Copy HTML

 I read the article.  It is wrong.  Evolutionary scientists are well acquainted with every last attempt at a technical argument by creationists. There is no vast conspiracy.  Their "science" simply doesn't hold water.....which is why here we are on page 3 of Tomas' thread about the importance of this evidence....which he has yet to ever discuss in any thread.

This evidence against evolution is so important that Tomas must protect it and not share or discuss it.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #73
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:18-06-2018 06:17:15Copy HTML

Yet you abandon the other thread.  Interesting.

Apparently you cannot post anything that that holds water as per the OP.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #74
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:18-06-2018 07:27:34Copy HTML

 The other thread is exactly the same.  Yet you posted it anyway.  Interesting.

Everything I post holds water.  It is from the peer-reviewed, corroborated and verified scientific literature.  Not the guy who lied about his degree at AnswersInGenesis.com

If you think anything I have posted on the science doesn't hold water, why have you never debated it and demonstrated this?  You have never presented any technical data.

We have two threads on the same subject.....the glorious result of knowledge about the falsehood of evolution...….and yet you have presented no knowledge, no links to said knowledge, not even a hint what this knowledge may be about.

You know well that skwanderer is well versed in this alleged knowledge you claim exists that would convert even the most ardent evolutionist.

You are mentally ill Tomas.

In any event. You posted 2 threads on the benefit of knowledge that says evolution is false....what is your favorite piece of this knowledge?  Now would be a good time to share your first piece of knowledge you claim we are all missing.  Share with us just one item you find most intriguing that evolutionists like me should know.



"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #75
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:18-06-2018 11:14:21Copy HTML

The other thread is exactly the same. 

To those who read poorly - sure, no doubt.  So much for trying to make it easier for you.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #76
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:19-06-2018 02:35:09Copy HTML

Your threads are identical idiot, the same article.  You don't even have a new point.   In one you claim the believers of evolution are sheep and don't know anything about the science, in the other you claim a little knowledge would help people from being sheep accepting evolution.  The exact same fucking thing.

You are mentally ill Tomas.

Evolution has been nothing but questioned since its inception.  Science has questioned every datil and we continue to learn.  Science is all about questioning.  The problem is that YOU don't question your beliefs.  You accept them without question.  Upon doing so, you don't feel you need to even look at the evidence of evolution.

You clearly don't know the first thing about evolutionary science.  Not one thing.  You don't know anything about any of the science, and you sit here and try to tell others if they just knew a little more, they would see things your way.....the idiot who knows nothing.

That is rich.

You are just so fucking stupid it is hard to find words.

Here we are on page 1 of Thread 2 and page 3 of Thread 1, all about Tomas extolling the virtues of knowledge about creationist science that could cure us of our wrongs......and he has zero knowledge of the science of evolution and what has been proven...none.  He doesn't want any.  He wont talk about any.  He cant debate evolutionary science, he wont read about evolutionary science....he has no desire whatsoever to talk about any evolutionary science.  In fact, he wont even post  his creationist science that he claims everyone needs to see.  He cant post evidence that allegedly supports his position.  Why?  Because he knows it doesn't hold water or pass the red face test.  If he thought this knowledge of creation science was as important as he says, then why is he afraid to post a single shred of this alleged knowledge?

The irony



"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #77
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:22-06-2018 09:24:05Copy HTML

Your threads are identical idiot, the same article. 

Same article yes, different thread.   I can believe you are not able to see that - you did not fare well with the dictionary. 

The other thread was designed to allow you or someone - if possible - to refute the OP.

Or illustrate the article itself.


So far, you and Yobbo have illustrated the article.   You have clearly shown that you have not spent the time to actually understand the findings of scientists who disagree with you. 

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #78
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:22-06-2018 06:58:08Copy HTML

There is not one scientist in the field of evolution who comes to the conclusion that god dunnit, you obtuse cretin.
There may be some clown who is an engineer or some such non-biological scientist who clings to theology, but none of them study any facet of biology.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #79
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:22-06-2018 07:04:56Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

There is not one scientist in the field of evolution who comes to the conclusion that god dunnit, you obtuse cretin.
There may be some clown who is an engineer or some such non-biological scientist who clings to theology, but none of them study any facet of biology.


Of course, silly, evolutionary scientists believe in evolution.  Good grief.   Talk about obtuse.

Though actually, there are probably scientists who believe in evolution that also believe God had a hand in it.


But go back and re-read what I last posted, and try again.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #80
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:34:20Copy HTML

 To refute evolution, you need some knowledge.  When do you plan to learn and understand what the science actually says Tomas? 

Let me guess, never.  If you ever do, you wouldn't be able to post these idiotic threads that display your stupidity on the subject.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #81
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:35:07Copy HTML

 Read all my posts and try again Tomas.  But first, you would have to know something about the science.  You have a long long way to go before you are capable to discuss the merits of a science for which you have no clue.



"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #82
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:25-06-2018 02:48:52Copy HTML

 

Page 3 Update:  FSA thread on the importance of knowledge about the evidence against evolution.

No evidence against evolution posted as yet. When Tomas is pressed to post this valuable evidence, he abandons thread and runs away and starts another.

Next Update - See other thread (hint: no evidence from Tomas will be found on that thread either).

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #83
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:04-07-2018 08:31:29Copy HTML

Another thread abandoned by Tomlapaz.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #84
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:04-07-2018 09:21:17Copy HTML

Reply to Yobbo

Another thread abandoned by Tomlapaz.


I provided the thread below to make the issue clearer for you all - and you all are stumbling.

So what would be the point of responding here?

http://forum2.aimoo.com/FSA/This-life-and-the-after-life/To-sell-evolution-what-makes-it-unique-2-1362756.html

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #85
  • From:USA

Re:To sell Evolution, a little Knowledge Is a Glorious Thing

Date Posted:04-07-2018 10:06:15Copy HTML

 

 
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