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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:17-06-2018 01:49:58

All of us are like sheep - we go astray.   The question is whether we come to hear the voice of the true master.


There are sheep, for example, that just blithely assume evolution is 'proven'.   It is what they were taught, and they never question it.

This thread allows a demonstration of such regarding the same article.

What is the actual evidence - in one's own words (though quotes/links can be used for reference) that could not be explained or would not have happened if evolution (single cell to man version) did not happen?

Not the assumptions that are often tied with such evidence - evidence that, speaking for itself, can only lead one to believe evolution (as noted) happened.


https://evolutionnews.org/2018/05/for-selling-evolution-a-little-knowledge-is-a-glorious-thing/

because in my experience, many Americans accept evolution because they are uninformed. That is, they have heard the popular arguments for the theory but have encountered little if any of the strongest evidence against it. 

Even many highly educated evolutionists betray a curious ignorance of evidence against evolution, evidence that sits in plain sight both in and beyond the peer-reviewed literature.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:17-06-2018 02:46:08

 There are sheep, for example, that just blithely assume evolution is 'proven'. 

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It is.  It is a fact.  We have witnessed it.  I don't assume it.  I have seen the changes and analyzed the dna myself.

Tomas starts a new thread with the exact same article because he is being beaten to death with his own lies in the other thread???

Here are just some of the factual observations of evolution in action.

https://phys.org/news/2016-11-biologists-speciation-laboratory-flask.html

http://www.pnas.org/content/114/23/6074

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

I could post studies of observed evolution all day long.

I know, those are links to studies....and Tomas has found a way to say links are just links.  They aren't real.  How does skwanderer know those studies are real?  I just accept them without knowing anything at all.

At the same time he says there is a plethora of data that shows evolution is false.  Data he did not collect.  Data he can only read.....and link.   Data he doesnt understand.  Data....unfortunately, that is not data at all and unaccepted by a single scientific publication on earth.   But he accepts that wholeheartedly.


 

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:17-06-2018 05:23:01

What is the actual evidence - in one's own words

Just repeating the instructions - I know how it is for folk to understand plain English.

Seriously - given your problem with the dictionary, I can't assume that what one person reads in those links is what you are coming away with.


So, ball still is in your court.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:17-06-2018 06:19:07

Just saying "god did it" is not proof that god did it.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:17-06-2018 06:45:49

But the point here is that simply saying man evolved from animals is not proof either.
Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #5
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:18-06-2018 11:19:52

Ok, for those for whom the OP was just too hard to understand...........

To  use an extreme illustration of what often passes as 'proof' for evolution:

If someone says that unicellular creatures eventually evolved into man - and that the proof of that is that the earth revolves around the sun - is that really a proof?   Would that not also be true if man did not evolve from a lower life form?


Yes, it would.   So what we are looking for here is evidence (not assumptions - evidence) that really only make sense in a unicellular to man sequence of development.

Good luck.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:19-06-2018 02:14:36

 But the point here is that simply saying man evolved from animals is not proof either.

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You are correct.  Saying it is not enough.  Which is why we have scientific proof.  More than a million studies of observed specieation, phylogentic analysis, biogeography, the molecular clock, isochronic dating. 

It is hardly a science that just "says so".  There are mountains of factual observations that are corroborated and verified.

Evolution of animals is a fact Tomas.  It is not a theory,

Here we are in Thread #2 on the same topic of the value of the knowledge of the creation "science" that says evolution is not true......and Tomas has yet to post a single shred of this evidence he says is so important to us all.

I think the main problem is that Tomas is a mentally ill lying fool




"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:19-06-2018 02:24:44

 Ok, for those for whom the OP was just too hard to understand...........

To  use an extreme illustration of what often passes as 'proof' for evolution:

If someone says that unicellular creatures eventually evolved into man - and that the proof of that is that the earth revolves around the sun - is that really a proof?   Would that not also be true if man did not evolve from a lower life form?

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You are talking to two people Tomas.  Who are "those for which the OP is too hard to understand"?   You are the only one who understands nothing here Tomas.  Let me show you.

Of course the absurd idiocy you mention is not the proof of evolution.  The proof is that we watched the animals and plants speciate.  We watched the genetic allele frequency change in the population such that the animals' morphology was different and could no longer breed with its ancestors.  A new species.  We have observed and documented its occurrence in front of our very eyes.  We sequenced the dna in ancestral forms and observed the genetic change.   We sequenced DNA in the biogeography of all similar species and found the mutation rate 100% consistent with the molecular clock.  We have aged their fossils and found numerous transitional forms that match the genetic analyses. We have done all this that you have no comprehension of and much much more. 

Tomas, you are illustrating your point perfectly, in reverse. You are so wholly ignorant of what evolution teaches, you therefore accept it must be wrong. A little knowledge does indeed go a long way as you posit.  You have no knowledge of evolution, it is evidence in your every post.  You could use some knowledge and then you wouldn't make an idiot of yourself with an example as you have used above. 

I have immersed myself in every piece of data that the creationists believe refutes evolution.  I have delved into every single argument in great detail.  I have done this in addition to my own studies of evolution on corals and coral reefs, and I have read more on evolution, both creation and the actual science, than you could if you started today and spent the rest of your life.  I spent time studying with scientists working on all matters of evolutionary science.

You claim evolutionists just need a little of your knowledge, then you say something so utterly stupid about evolution I am almost embarrassed for you.  You are a hopeless idiot, because you have chosen to be a hopeless idiot. The irony of you claiming that scientists need to just learn a little bit, when you are clearly the most uneducated idiot about the tenets of evolution I have ever seen.

That you are not embarrassed speaks volumes about the depth of your stupidity and/or mental illness/



"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:19-06-2018 06:44:06

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"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
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  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:19-06-2018 06:54:23

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"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:19-06-2018 09:57:48

The proof is that we watched the animals and plants speciate.  We watched the genetic allele frequency change in the population such that the animals' morphology was different and could no longer breed with its ancestors.  A new species. 


Ok, just to start with that - we would have that even in the creation model.   Just as we have the earth revolving around the sun in the creation model.

Thus neither is a proof - rather it shows how little examination folk given on what they are taught about evolution.  And how little they often care about that.


Can go on with the rest of your post, and how it fails to fit the OP criteria - but again, you don't really care, do you?.   Sorry guy.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #11
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:20-06-2018 01:40:18

 

Ok, just to start with that - we would have that even in the creation model.   Just as we have the earth revolving around the sun in the creation model.

Thus neither is a proof - rather it shows how little examination folk given on what they are taught about evolution.  And how little they often care about that.


Can go on with the rest of your post, and how it fails to fit the OP criteria - but again, you don't really care, do you?.   Sorry guy.


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The criteria of the OP?   LOL  Agree with Tomas or you fail the criteria of the OP

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
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  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:20-06-2018 01:59:33

 What is the actual evidence that could not be explained or would not have happened if evolution (single cell to man version) did not happen?

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What is the evidence that could not be explained without evolution?

All of it. 

It is not possible for animals to evolve a lot in a few hundred years, and then not evolve for 3.5 billion.  You seem to agree that speciation is possible.  We can watch in our lifetime, an animal population gene frequency and content become altered such they are a new species. We can do this in our lifetime, but in 100,000 lifetimes, you don't believe more change is possible than the change we can see in short periods?   What is the barrier to more significant change?  Fish, to lizard, to bird?  What are the barriers to evolution from on to the other?  There are none.  Only time.

The creationist must agree that evolution occurs, because we have many many examples of us witness evolution.  They need to build a barrier to this evolution for which they cannot argue against.  They say sure, a little evolution can happen, but not major evolution.  Sadly, they have never have never found any evidence that evolution proceeds only a little and then stops.

Without evolution, you could not explain the neatly fitted molecular clock where the natural mutation rate fits perfectly with the change of species over time.

Without evolution being correct, the perfect matches of geology and isochronic dating with animal assemblages through history would not be explained, though creationists have tried and failed.

Evolutionary biology is taught as a basic medical science because without evolution being correct, the medical field cannot understand pathogen progression, immunity and selection, and more.  http://www.pnas.org/content/107/suppl_1/1800

Knowing evolutionary science has helped us learn how biological systems work to be able to fight disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3352556/

Evolutionary biology's role in medicine has been fairly well known since the late 80s. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nesse/Articles/DawnDarwinianMed-QRB-1991.pdf

Evolution explains our cells chimera-like behavior, nothing else.

Evolution explains hiccups, backaches, unsupported intestines, obesity and much much more.

You are a mentally ill idiot Tomas.  I worry about you making it through life.





"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #13
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:20-06-2018 11:14:29

It is not possible for animals to evolve a lot in a few hundred years, and then not evolve for 3.5 billion.

Nice belief system.

But again, not asking about beliefs.  What is really interesting is that if you were truly familiar with creationist and/or ID literature, you would not be so careless in your posts.


Its like you are trying to be the perfect illustration of what the OP article is talking about.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #14
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:21-06-2018 01:34:26



In response to:  Just saying "god did it" is not proof that god did it.
 Tomlapaz wrote:

But the point here is that simply saying man evolved from animals is not proof either.

The thing is that nobody says evolution just happened, they give evidence of the whole process as well.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #15
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:21-06-2018 02:19:31

And yet Yobbo - you do not.   I bet you don't even understand Skw's error.

You too are a good illustration of what the OP article is talking about.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #16
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 05:00:16

You wouldn't know the town clock was up you even when it chimed midnight.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 05:11:59

And yet you are the one illustrating the OP article.  

Neither of you clearly has bothered to even seriously weigh the claims of either ID scientists, or creationists scientists.  

Which is your choice - but not only does it illustrate the OP article, it undermines any claims you have to your own position.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #18
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 08:50:48

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"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #19
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 09:16:42

Yobbo - you just again did what the OP says folk like you do.   And I am betting you really are not seeing the irony there.

All you just did was proclaim dogma.   Now, maybe it is true - but in your case, you believe it because, well, you have never really sought to question it. 

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #20
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 06:21:25

Reply to Tomlapaz

Yobbo - you just again did what the OP says folk like you do.   And I am betting you really are not seeing the irony there.

All you just did was proclaim dogma.   Now, maybe it is true - but in your case, you believe it because, well, you have never really sought to question it. 


What does "an overwhelming body of evidence" mean to you?
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #21
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 07:06:32

In your case, it means making a statement that you heard from someone else, that you personally cannot back up - have not even tried to do here per the OP - and have never looked into the opposing arguments with any care, if any.

IE - you are who the OP speaks of.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #22
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 09:30:57

For every thousand reports on this subject well over 950 of them relate to aspects confirming that evolution is fact.  Of the other ~50 there is mostly confirmation that the religious beliefs are simply those created by primitive nomads and these have no basis in reality.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #23
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:22-06-2018 09:32:55

LOL, you are doing it again - simply illustrating what the OP is talking about.

Repeating (parroting) what you have been taught, but with no understanding - does that not make you a sheep?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #24
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:23-06-2018 09:48:25

Reply to Tomlapaz

In your case, it means making a statement that you heard from someone else, that you personally cannot back up - have not even tried to do here per the OP - and have never looked into the opposing arguments with any care, if any.

IE - you are who the OP speaks of.


You take great liberties to declare adamantly where my statement derives.  Skwanderer has backed up what I was talking about but you ignore his evidence.  Why should I do what he did, just for you to ignore it?
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #25
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:02:08

Skwanderer has not backed up anything.


He has not pointed to something that could only be true if evolution  (single cell to man) is true.    If you think he has - let me know what you think that was.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #26
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:32:23

 

Nice belief system.

But again, not asking about beliefs.

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I didn't give you my beliefs.  I stated a fact.  There is no barrier to genetic change and evolution that means animals only evolve within a "kind".  They don't.  We have the genetic and fossil evidence to prove they don't.

Tomas, you know the part about your post that says a little knowledge goes a long way.  You don't even have a little.

Come back when you do.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #27
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:23-06-2018 10:52:56

Still waiting for the evidence that can only be explained by unicellular to man evolution.

Know better than to hold my breath on this, given folk who mistake assumptions for proof will continue to remain in the dark here.


And yes, there are even evolutionists  who have said that the fossil record is not supportive of unicellular to man evolution.    In fact, when I had asked you to post the fossil sequences showing no major gaps, you had trouble yourself.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #28
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:24-06-2018 02:46:16

 I've presented plenty of evidence many times.  I'm still waiting for Tomas to actually get a little knowledge about the science of evolution.  I hear knowledge goes a long way. 

You should hold your breath, all your brain cells are already dead.  It wont have any effect on you.

List all the evolutionary scientists who said the fossil record doesn't support evolution from molecules to man.  Ready go. Let me guess...the misquote of Stephan J Gould?

You are so predictable Tomas.  You wont ever have any knowledge of the science, because you don't want any.  When it is presented to you, you are unable to discuss it on a technical level, because you are ignorant of it and choose to remain that way.  You have never refuted one piece of evidence I have presented.  All you can do is say "no it isn't"  You are aware that is not actually a debate on the topic right?

Those are the facts.

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #29
  • From:USA

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:24-06-2018 03:29:18

Still waiting for the evidence that can only be explained by unicellular to man evolution.


Posting evidence that can be explained that way is not the same thing.   You made the claim that you are familiar with the arguments from either the ID camp, or creation scientists.   Clearly that is not true.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Yobbo Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #30
  • From:New_zealand

Re:To sell evolution - what makes it unique?

Date Posted:24-06-2018 06:09:40


This from the Hebrides News:

If, as evolutionists claim, all of mankind evolved from the same primitive life-source, then how did we end up with 7,000 different languages? The Bible teaches in Genesis 11: 7-,9 that God created all the different languages at Babel…

If mankind had advanced through a so-called evolutionary process, then there should still be developing languages today. However, the stark fact is mankind’s languages are vanishing from civilization at an alarming rate – thus proving that evolution is a lie. And if evolution were true, then the process by which mankind has obtained 7,000 languages would be continuing today. Has the evolutionary process ceased? According to the Bible it never happened in the first place.

The Earth, of course, is 6,000 years old. As for purported evidence to the contrary,

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely no evidence of such

longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Yes, evolution is at best only a theory…

This is not parody. The author, one Donald J. Morrison, is an Inverness-based mission worker for the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing), which split from the insufficiently rigorous Free Church of Scotland in January 2000. I have not been able to find out more about his qualifications or activities.

If this is not enough to convince you of the errors of evolutionism, you will find more of Morrison’s arguments expounded here by my friend the Sensuous Curmudgeon, whose superficial flippancy conceals careful documentation and analysis of creationist arguments (for a list of topics, see the right-hand column of his site).

As for the evolution of languages, and the descent of most European and Indian languages from a common ancestor, this was first clearly formulated by Marcus Zuerius van Boxhorn in the 17th century, and used by both Charles Lyell and Charles Darwin as an analogy for the evolution of species.
IndoEuropeanTree
Partial tree of Indo-European languages. Branches are in order of first attestation. Languages in red are extinct. White labels indicate categories / un-attested proto-languages. Via Wikipedia. Multiple authors, first version by Mandrak. Gnu license. Click twice to enlarge
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