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Yobbo
  • From:New_zealand

Date Posted:02-06-2018 10:00:28Copy HTML

I expect that they think information about other Middle Eastern religions to be false, especially the dates. 

After all, Zoroastrian fables precede Judaic ones by centuries. Most scholars believe Genesis was written around 1450BC while Gilgamesh epics date from 2100BC, perhaps as early as 2800BC.

It is fair to say that Most Christians believe that the bible is the word of god.  But sensible scholars disagree with the time lines of both Moses and Gilgamesh.
"Les hommes ne font jamais le mal si complètement et joyeusement que lorsqu'ils le font par conviction religieuse." Blaise Pascal
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #121
  • From:USA

Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:24-08-2018 04:32:53Copy HTML

 Folk who are afraid to be truthful about homosexuality and/or distort/deny the issues with it - I think that could be an apt description of homophobia. A thought.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #122
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:24-08-2018 11:54:02Copy HTML

That's an interesting thought, Tom.  I'd say that it is a spot-on description of yourself.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #123
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 03:24:18Copy HTML

 Of  course you would.   You know you are wrong - but nevertheless, as noted, of course you would.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #124
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 02:34:46Copy HTML

Of course you would say that.  You think yourself right, but you've been proven wrong.  Never the less, as noted, of course you would.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #125
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 04:09:35Copy HTML

 Well, time will tell.  We all stand before the great Judge one day.    Ultimately, he is the one who sees all - and we will be completely transparent before him, we will not be playing any games there.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #126
  • From:USA

Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 04:22:21Copy HTML

That's an interesting thought, Tom. I'd say that it is a spot-on description of yourself. ___ spot on. And Tomas, you better hope St. Peter accepts liars if you expect to stand before him.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #127
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 05:35:51Copy HTML

 Its not Peter you and I have to be concerned with, Skw. 


It is the Creator - and you, Bogus, myself, etc. all have to answer for the deeds AND thoughts of this life.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #128
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 05:41:40Copy HTML

Then you are fucked for certain.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #129
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:25-08-2018 05:52:50Copy HTML

 We all are, frankly, if we are honest with ourselves.  At least, if we have no intercessor to stand in the gap for us, before the Judge.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #130
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:26-08-2018 04:23:40Copy HTML

We have now entered the fear-threat portion of tonights program.


LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #131
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:26-08-2018 05:04:45Copy HTML

We all are, frankly, if we are honest with ourselves. ___ Tomas being honest. Now that would be a sight. But glad to see you admit God created us so he could sends us all to hell, since he was all knowing and knew what would happen when he created us. But he loves us. Tomas finally sees just how patently absurd his religion is.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment." Albert Einstein
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #132
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:26-08-2018 06:04:19Copy HTML

 Now, Skw you should know enough to know what you just posted was a lie.   Which given your earlier post complaining about lying rather ironic at best.


But it is possible that it was done in ignorance.   You have been guilty of both here on the forums (lying and ignorance).

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #133
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:26-08-2018 06:05:41Copy HTML

We have now entered the fear-threat portion of tonights program.


LOL


Refering to post 128 by Skw?

Or just being hypocritical?

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #134
  • From:USA

Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:27-08-2018 03:37:23Copy HTML

We all are, frankly, if we are honest with ourselves. ___ Tomas being honest.  Now that would be a sight.  But glad to see you admit God created us so he could sends us all to hell, since he was all knowing and knew what would happen when he created us. But he loves us. Tomas finally sees just how patently absurd his religion is.


Since you deny God exists, you live in your OWN denial of reality.

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #135
  • From:USA

Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:27-08-2018 10:19:30Copy HTML

We have now entered the fear-threat portion of tonights program.


LOL


Refering to post 128 by Skw?

Or just being hypocritical?



No Tom. I'm referring to your post, #129.

Nope, not in the least.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #136
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:27-08-2018 11:15:28Copy HTML

I see - lol.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #137
  • From:USA

Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:28-08-2018 03:43:47Copy HTML

No, you don't.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #138
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:29-08-2018 03:14:03Copy HTML

 Oh, I see through you - and I think you know that others do also.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #139
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:29-08-2018 05:11:38Copy HTML

LOL  What ridiculous rot.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #140
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:29-08-2018 08:01:25Copy HTML

 I think you know its not.


And I think you know in time it will become evident - and thus why the above reminders of that are not welcome.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #141
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:29-08-2018 11:19:39Copy HTML

Child, please.  Ridiculous bullshit veiled threats of some sort of punishment in the afterlife are never "welcome."

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #142
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:29-08-2018 10:21:53Copy HTML

 I was just pointing out that I am willing to see our positions put to the test.


You are uncomfortable with that, clearly.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #143
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:30-08-2018 01:29:05Copy HTML

I have told you on several occasions that I don't do Pascal's Wager.

You are full of shit, clearly.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #144
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:30-08-2018 02:38:21Copy HTML

 I was not talking about his test - rather your reluctance to see your position tested.


You see, the only ones who would see the posts as a threat are those who do not think their position really holds merit.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #145
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:30-08-2018 06:43:13Copy HTML

Tom, don't give up your day job, because as a mind reader, you suck.  LOL

As far as your "am willing to see our positions put to the test" babbling, it is simply Pascal's Wager stated differently.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #146
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:31-08-2018 04:11:42Copy HTML

First of all - a person can KNOW that Jesus has risen from the grave.  Does that sounds like a wager?


And it is clear you do not have peace.   Does  not take a mind reader to see that.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #147
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:31-08-2018 01:45:25Copy HTML

Tom, if you're just going to feign being obtuse and continue to be dishonest there's really no point in attempting any kind of dialog with you.  Your whole purpose seems to be to try and convert everyone to your way of thinking, to your beliefs.  You just keep hammering away at it in THE WORST possible ways by using lies, condesention, twisting of words and feigned obtuseness.  It is YOU that seems to be not at peace, angry at a world full of people that will not be bent to your will and beliefs.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #148
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:31-08-2018 08:31:14Copy HTML

 Clearly a nerve is being touched here.   Again, this goes back to Romans 1.    We all know there is a Creator - given both the external and internal witness.


The real dishonesty is to deny that.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #149
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:01-09-2018 11:28:02Copy HTML

Clearly, you are mistaken.  However, I do have to admit your lying, condesention, and twisting of words is most annoying.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #150
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Re:What do Christian zealots know about Gilgamesh?

Date Posted:01-09-2018 02:43:54Copy HTML

 I think what you find annoying is that you know, though you try and keep it hidden, that there is a Creator.   And you do not like having that sleeping bear disturbed.

Jesus: For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is gracious and gives.
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