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Tomlapaz
  • From:USA

Date Posted:04-12-2018 04:19:29Copy HTML


https://www.prageru.com/videos/why-does-america-spend-so-much-israel


Video by Chuck Wald, US General


Focuses on why it is in America's self interest (from his POV) of the security benefits alone (he notes there are others) in supporting Israel.   I was surprised to find that we are talking 38 billion over 10 years.   I guess with the deficit and other expenditures, that did not seem like alot per se.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #31
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:06-12-2018 03:57:15Copy HTML

It's good enough for Trump.  LOL

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Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #32
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:07-12-2018 07:48:24Copy HTML

Easyrider:   earn about the House’s recently passed bill which expands the $38 billion aid agreement signed under President Obama.


Link: The AIPAC sponsored bill that guarantees $38 billion to Israel over the next ten years



Thanks for confirming that the 38 billion figure is correct - as noted, I was surprised it was not more.    And per the article, apparently 38 billion is the minimum to be given over 10 years - so more could be given.  (I would guess will).


Folk may disagree about the wisdom of giving Israel (or any nation) such aid, and that is understandable.   But 3.8 billion/year by itself given the US budget, deficit, etc. not anywhere as big as I expected.

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #33
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:07-12-2018 06:21:18Copy HTML

Yes, and I have a nice bridge to sell you in the Everglades
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #34
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:09-12-2018 04:25:49Copy HTML

So, Easy, now you are saying that the link you provided cannot be trusted?   Why the change in mind?

Come worship Jesus, born King of the Jews.
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #35
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:09-12-2018 04:39:10Copy HTML

No, I'm saying that the 3.8 billion figure looks good on paper. But I'm sure it is incomplete. 


Are you so naive as to not understand that the 3.8 is the "official" figure, but I believe the actual figure is much higher. I'm not going to bother researching all the links you will wat, but do your own homework if you're able. Let me just say there are costs to the American taxpayer that are not included. 

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skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #36
  • From:Argentina

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:09-12-2018 01:42:44Copy HTML

You can 'believe' the actual figure is much higher----that is your right.  But you have given us nothing to support your belief, and you continue to conflate 'other' spending with 'defense' spending. 

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #37
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:09-12-2018 06:21:54Copy HTML

It's commonly refereed to as reality skrumpie, no conflating or belief, simple facts in reality, easily verified for those who care for the truth
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #38
  • From:Argentina

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:09-12-2018 08:58:36Copy HTML

And we come full circle back to you telling us what is truth, but not telling us how you KNOW it is truth..............

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #39
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:10-12-2018 01:25:36Copy HTML

google is your friend skrumpie, everything I refer to is public information, readily available. Do your own homework, then if you can rebut my claims, do so with readily available public information.


Now..........GFY

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skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #40
  • From:Argentina

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:10-12-2018 01:03:26Copy HTML

A lot of stuff is 'public information' EZ.  Not all of it is true.


My question remains:  How do you KNOW that what you believe is the truth?

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #41
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:11-12-2018 01:14:28Copy HTML

No, I'm saying that the 3.8 billion figure looks good on paper. But I'm sure it is incomplete. 


Are you so naive as to not understand that the 3.8 is the "official" figure, but I believe the actual figure is much higher. I'm not going to bother researching all the links you will wat, but do your own homework if you're able. Let me just say there are costs to the American taxpayer that are not included. 




Oh, possibly.   Just like the promises of various leaders will cost us more than the "official" figure.  Think national healthcare. But per your article, 3.8 billion per yeat is the minimum that will be sent.    True?

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #42
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:13-12-2018 04:07:57Copy HTML

Screw the money tomas, let's think about the people............


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Tomlapaz Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #43
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:14-12-2018 04:02:42Copy HTML

When it comes to dealing with problems, generally it makes good sense to get the most bang for your buck.


In other words, if you can cut out a budget item, for example, for a billion, compared to several million, all else equal, go for the billion first.



So, aid is given to quite a few countries.  Whatever faults Israel has, those nations surrounding Israel are worse, yes?   Frankly, bit rhetorical, for of course they are.

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mickeyrat Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #44
  • From:USA

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:15-12-2018 09:45:53Copy HTML

Girardi's use of that term is accurate, regardless of what some might say. Some food for thought in both of the pieces. Research they requested, they got some.



Well, ya know, EZ, no it's really NOT accurate. I assure you that members of the real Mafia, that collection of interconnected Italian crime families of Sicilian origin, do NOT consider Jewish journalists to be part of the "Mafia". The term isn't even attempted by the author to be used "accurately", it is a polemic which exists to say that what these Jewish journalists are doing is nefarious and illegal, since by definition if the mafia engaged in all legal activities, it wouldn't be the mafia.


Please don't give me this bullshit about "accurate". If you and the author want to bleat your sheeplike blatherings over the Jews, fine, go ahead. But at least have the fucking integrity to recognize when you're using a loaded term to disparage your bete-noirs before the fact.


"accurate" my ass.

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #45
  • From:Norway

Re:Why does America spend so much on Israel?

Date Posted:16-12-2018 08:14:04Copy HTML

What are you talking about? The term "Jewish Mafia" as it's used is accurate. For example-------if someone is critical of Israel they are squashed, by the "Jewish/Zionist/Israeli Mafia". It's just a tag placed on what goes on da in and day out. 


Politicians are afraid to criticize Israel, because they know if they do, their careers will be "wacked". So in this way, the tag "Jewish Mafia" seems to have been used. Perhaps he should have said "Israeli Mafia" or "Zionist Mafia".....all interchangable. 


Still want to rave on about some irrelevant techinicality?  Come on, we're talking about something that has been going on for decades

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