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easyrider123
  • From:Norway

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:51:08Copy HTML


Listeners need to think.............


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
  • From:Argentina

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 01:24:55Copy HTML

Who cares?

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 04:05:05Copy HTML

Obviously you, skrumpie.  Your thinly veiled animus towards anything LGBT+ makes you care very deeply.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #3
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 05:23:33Copy HTML

Obviously you, skrumpie.  Your thinly veiled animus towards anything LGBT+ makes you care very deeply.


Why is a legitimate opposition to homsexuality classified as "animus"?

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #4
  • From:Norway

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:00:42Copy HTML

There is no legitimate opposition. 

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #5
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:02:56Copy HTML

There is no legitimate opposition. 


That is your FIRST mistake in your erroneous thinking!

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #6
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:22:47Copy HTML

Obviously you, skrumpie.  Your thinly veiled animus towards anything LGBT+ makes you care very deeply.


Why is a legitimate opposition to homsexuality classified as "animus"?



Because it IS animus, or hate if you like, and is NOT legitimate.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #7
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:35:59Copy HTML

Why is a legitimate opposition to homsexuality classified as "animus"? ___ Legitimate opposition??? Explain what is legitimate about opposition to a group of people you do not know and have done you no harm.
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #8
  • From:Argentina

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 07:23:25Copy HTML

Who care is this guy is gay or straight?  

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #9
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 07:41:36Copy HTML

It's abundantly clear that you do care, skrumpie.  In fact your seething homophobia makes you care very deeply.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 09:11:03Copy HTML

Obviously you, skrumpie.  Your thinly veiled animus towards anything LGBT+ makes you care very deeply.


Why is a legitimate opposition to homsexuality classified as "animus"?



Because it IS animus, or hate if you like, and is NOT legitimate.


from your distorted point of view!

cathymv Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #11
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 09:16:49Copy HTML



who really cares... why are people defining themselves by their sexual preferences... no one really cares.... 

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.....except for the election of Donald Trump.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #12
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 09:17:14Copy HTML

Why is a legitimate opposition to homsexuality classified as "animus"?

Legitimate opposition???  Explain what is legitimate about opposition to a group of people you do not know and have done you no harm.


Historically, culturally, biblically , biologically and by many others standards, HOMOSEXUALITY has been, and STILL is,
considered to be a deviation of normal. Homosexuality is a  DYSFUNCTION, not a normal or valid lifestyle. they want society to validate their deviant behavior and negative

 lifestyle by twisting such social instituitons as marriage around and redefining it to conform to a departure from the normal standards. they also want EXTRA rights
as they fit every category already. HOMOSEXUAL is not an equal but separate category but a distinction included in afflictions and disorders.

By pushing for acceptance of their lifestye as normal, they are attempting to distort the norms of society, laws of man, nature and God. THIS does harm to society. Their behavior is abnormal.

dunjuz_not Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #13
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 10:37:44Copy HTML

Why is announcing your gay lifestyle important?


Because people get bored if you walk around saying "Me me me me me me" all day long.

We're all prisoners of conscious.~
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #14
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:04-12-2018 11:19:53Copy HTML

who really cares... why are people defining themselves by their sexual preferences... no one really cares.... 



Take a gander at the post immediately following yours, cathy.  You will see that your statement is false.

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #15
  • From:Norway

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:53:01Copy HTML

That's the whole point, we should never care one way or another what an individual's sexual orientation is. Proclamations like wale's are stupid and potentially harmful. Stanhope makes the point that being gay is no biggie. 


What's important is a person's behavior, their actions towards others. I guess wales didn't get the golden rule memo

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #16
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 01:07:12Copy HTML

That's the whole point, we should never care one way or another what an individual's sexual orientation is. Proclamations like wale's are stupid and potentially harmful. Stanhope makes the point that being gay is no biggie. 


What's important is a person's behavior, their actions towards others. I guess wales didn't get the golden rule memo


Contradiction to your uninformed and obtuse thinking doesn't make a contradcition or opposition to your maladjusted views as you describe and just exemplifies how limited your mind really is. What YOU don't get, among MANY things you fail to grasp, is that attempting to make deviancy equal to normalcy harms society in general.

skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:Argentina

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 01:10:01Copy HTML

That's the whole point, we should never care one way or another what an individual's sexual orientation is. Proclamations like wale's are stupid and potentially harmful. Stanhope makes the point that being gay is no biggie. 


What's important is a person's behavior, their actions towards others. I guess wales didn't get the golden rule memo




Perhaps you can explain then, EZ, if 'we' should never care one way or another, why YOU brought it up?


You weren't trying to bait a new-ish member, were you?


You wouldn't stoop to that, right?

Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #18
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 01:59:46Copy HTML

EZ and others bring it up because, my dear skrumplett, people like you and wale63 do care deeply and negatively about it.  You live to find out if a person is a member of the heterosexual demographic and if they're not you attempt to shame, belittle, bully, and troll them into silence.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
_QZ_ Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #19
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 02:36:48Copy HTML

That's the whole point, we should never care one way or another what an individual's sexual orientation is.




I have never cared.  I think you fail to grasp just how many people do not care, which includes not having folks like you asking us to "think" about something we don't care about.    Why would you even bother to stir that pot in 2018?   My grown kids are milienials...being gay is not only as accepted as being straight, it is probably a little more celebrated.   Also, I don't find this comic  particularly funny...there is way better out there IMO, but to each his own.  

skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #20
  • From:Argentina

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 03:06:06Copy HTML

What she said.

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Bogus0Pomp Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #21
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 03:36:31Copy HTML

That's the whole point, we should never care one way or another what an individual's sexual orientation is.


I have never cared.  I think you fail to grasp just how many people do not care, which includes not having folks like you asking us to "think" about something we don't care about.    Why would you even bother to stir that pot in 2018?   My grown kids are milienials...being gay is not only as accepted as being straight, it is probably a little more celebrated.   Also, I don't find this comic  particularly funny...there is way better out there IMO, but to each his own.  


 
That's nice for you and your grown kids.  However, there are still plenty of people who do care and most of them are homophobes swiming against the tide of increasing acceptance, clinging to bigoted and ingnorant ideas of the past.  And, while in general millenials are accepting of LGBTQ+ people, there are unfortunately homophobes among their ranks.

skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #22
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 04:44:23Copy HTML

Historically, culturally, biblically , biologically and by many others standards, HOMOSEXUALITY has been, and STILL is, considered to be a deviation of normal. ____ Biology being a continuum means absolutely everything, every single trait we have, results in most people deviating from the norm in some way or another. The question was, why does the fact they are "not normal" give you a legitimate reason for your aversion??? You still have not provided one, because there isn't one.
skwanderer Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #23
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 04:48:49Copy HTML

I have never cared. I think you fail to grasp just how many people do not care, which includes not having folks like you asking us to "think" about something we don't care about. Why would you even bother to stir that pot in 2018? ___ Because people like skrumpie, wale, Tomas and others who actively believe that any deviation from their perceived normal sexuality is "deviant" still exist in 2018....right here in this forum. Just like the other forum when we tried to convince EZ he didn't have to participate, the same is true in every forum for people who don't think the topic is a big deal.
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #24
  • From:Argentina

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 05:33:37Copy HTML

Oh my.  The requisite personal attack from AlwaysAngryInOregon.


So I will ask again, if nobody cares, what was the point of the thread at all, and why are those who are so tolerant and accepting (cough) so interested in perpetuating it?

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
Doe_Eyes Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #25
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 06:58:58Copy HTML

The point of the thread, as you so aptly refuse to see, is that people like you STILL DO CARE and that is the point. Not only do you care, you care enough to try to cause harm, by words and probably by deed. You would force people who are different than you, back into closets, you would support laws that discriminate against them, you would do all in your power to ostracize them from society for no other reason than YOU don't like it. So, while there are still people like you, cowboy, wale and so many others, spouting your garbage, there will be people who will call you out on it and call you what you are......bigots! Don't like the word, then don't be a bigot.
_QZ_ Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #26
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:23:55Copy HTML

Because people like skrumpie, wale, Tomas and others who actively believe that any deviation from their perceived normal sexuality is "deviant" still exist in 2018....right here in this forum.  Just like the other forum when we tried to convince EZ he didn't have to participate, the same is true in every forum for people who don't think the topic is a big deal.




This reply is for both you and Bogus.   I am not unaware there are varying opinions regarding homosexuality, some number of which are bigoted and hateful.  In regard to whoever wears the latter shoe here, you can't possibly think a thread like this will change their minds?  You may enjoy verbally flogging anonymous homophobes you find on the internet, but how is that a discussion?  You may be interested to hear the story of the woman who left the Westboro Baptists....or perhaps you have...but she abandoned her "God Hates" perspective when someone took the time to engage her, as a real person, after they "met" on Twitter.   It's actually a very inspiring story of the POSITIVE aspects of that forum which is frequently quite awful. 


And for the record, I'm not objecting to Easy posting the OP.  I took the time to watch the vid, and my participation in the thread is say I fail to see what "thinking" is required.   It'd be nice if Easy used his own words to develop whatever point he has, as Yek did in her thread, so at least we'd know why HE thought it so profound.  

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #27
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:45:02Copy HTML

EZ and others bring it up because, my dear skrumplett, people like you and wale63 do care deeply and negatively about it.  You live to find out if a person is a member of the heterosexual demographic and if they're not you attempt to shame, belittle, bully, and troll them into silence.


What YOU don't get, among MANY things you fail to grasp, is that attempting to make deviancy equal to normalcy harms society in general.

easyrider123 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #28
  • From:Norway

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:45:20Copy HTML

Hey wales, what is normal, and who says so? 


Normal does not exist.


Normal is a failure of imagination. Normal is an easy-going oppression. Normal is a silent violence against progress. Normal is an insidious benevolence; a sweet tool of conformity responsible for incalculable loss. Normal is the greatest constraint and coercive force in the world. If you do not feel the constant threat and ruthless pressure of normalcy bearing down on you, it is because you are a part of it; an unknowing devotee of the unremarkable.


'NORMAL' is a setting on your clothes dryer


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #29
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:50:50Copy HTML

The point of the thread, as you so aptly refuse to see, is that people like you STILL DO CARE and that is the point.  Not only do you care, you care enough to try to cause harm, by words and probably by deed.  You would force people who are different than you, back into closets, you would support laws that discriminate against them, you would do all in your power to ostracize them from society for no other reason than YOU don't like it.  So, while there are still people like you, cowboy, wale and so many others, spouting your garbage, there will be people who will call you out on it and call you what you are......bigots!  Don't like the word, then don't be a bigot.


Being in opposition to your maladjusted views does NOT constitute bigotry. It is a legitimate opposition to a deviant lifestyle being pushed by some as a normal way of life. If two consenting adults agree to whatever they want , that is fine and they should be left alone whether you agree or not. It's when they assert that because of what they choose to do as consenting adults that they are deserving of extra consideration under the law AND that society MUST accept that behavior openly which they have consented to, this is where there lies the problem and the conflict.

 Additionally, you constantly hear those sympathetic to homosexual causes misuse the word TOLERANCE.
It is misused because there is a definite move to distort it's meaning. Tolerance means to put up with something you may or may not like.
What advocates for homosexual legitimacy are pushing for is ACCEPTANCE, meaning one approves of this lifestyle.
The two words "sound" similar in meaning but are different.
There is an agenda in the  homosexual community to have their behavior ACCEPTED and VALIDATED, not just tolerated by society.
They don't understand ( maybe they secretly do) that society in general DISapproves of that behavior
and any related behavior which deviates from normal society. These advocates then try the tactic of saying you have a hatred for  homosexuals.
Not at all. Society, as a rule disapproves of the behavior, not the individual. It doesn't help the
homosexuals to have aligned themselves with more forms of departure from normal society by aligning themselves with bisexuals and transsexuals.
They just make themselves look more strange when they align with groups society has deemed to be strange and apart.

wale63 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #30
  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:05-12-2018 07:53:23Copy HTML

Hey wales, what is normal, and who says so? 


Normal does not exist.


Normal is a failure of imagination. Normal is an easy-going oppression. Normal is a silent violence against progress. Normal is an insidious benevolence; a sweet tool of conformity responsible for incalculable loss. Normal is the greatest constraint and coercive force in the world. If you do not feel the constant threat and ruthless pressure of normalcy bearing down on you, it is because you are a part of it; an unknowing devotee of the unremarkable.


'NORMAL' is a setting on your clothes dryer



SO then WHAT is YOUIR criteria on which you base YOUR ideas to be correct and OTHER ideas as NOT correct?

NORMAL is that which follows societal norms, laws of nature AND LAWS OF GOD. YOU are free to reject them BUT they exist and your rejection of them does NOT invalidate those.

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