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easyrider123
  • From:Norway

Date Posted:04-12-2018 06:51:08Copy HTML


Listeners need to think.............


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:06-12-2018 09:28:22Copy HTML

I think all you blowhard natural law proponents need to shed your clothes and go about your lives as nature intended... butt naked.  That is, unless you wanna be a hypocrite.



Not at all. Is this your idiotic attempt at a rebuttal for what is obvious about the deviant dysfunction of homosexuality, meaning you cannot offer a swerious argument in FAVOR of , other than that which originates from your irrational thoughts?


So basically you think you can cherry pick which of nature's intents you must subscribe to. I say if you are going to condemn  behavior because it's in contradiction to what you think natures intent is, then you must do so for all of nature's intents... not just when it suits your anti homosexuality agenda. Your clothes are unnatural, so get rid of them if you are ruled by nature's intent.


AGAIN, nonsense argument as EVERYONE has to have clothes for protection of many forms. BIOLOGICAL programming is as it is and yet YOU even want to DENY the REALITY of that. ABSURD thinking will not JUSTIFY dysfunctuional and deviant behavior.



"Each organic being is striving to increase in a geometrical ratio . . . each at some period of its life, during some season of the year, during each generation or at intervals, has to struggle for life and to suffer great destruction . . . The vigorous, the healthy, and the happy survive and multiply."
—On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, 1859


 It's not nonsense. On the one hand you're insisting that we must follow nature's intent, then on the other hand you want to ignore natures intent. You are two faced, plain and simple.


Yes it, and YOUR, thinking are NONSENSE.

Reproductive fitness has nothing to do with ATTRACTION.  Two separate issues. IN FACT BECAUSE some may not be able to reprioduce is EXACTLY why each gender is programmed , NORMALLY, to be ATTRACTED to the opposite sex. If INDIVIDUAL people attempt to conceive and don't under this attraction, then the next one or the one after thnat will be successful at reproduction.

REPRODUCTION and ATTRACTION are TWO separate ISSUES. Each indiviidual does NOT have to reproduce BUT each individual has to be ATTRACTED to the OPPOSITE sex in order to boost the odds of SURVIVAL of the SPECIES.

The homosexual is an anomaly of nature,


 No it's your two faced swalking that is nonsense.   You want to criticize one type of behavior because it contradicts your view nature's intent but then you wanna turn around and give another type of behavior a pass even though it also contradicts natures obvious intent. If nature wanted you to wear clothes then you would have been born wearing them. So stop being intellectually dishonest, and own your arguement. You want to have it both ways. You want to hold the homosexual accountable to natures intent when it suits your agenda but at the same time you want to ignore nature's intent when it's not in line with your own behavior. 



You aren't THAT stupid in order to push your maladjusted thinking forward, are you? CLOTHES are necessary as a protection for ALL with NO distinguishing features. NATURE provided animals for MANY uses, among them for pelts so , IF I were you, I'd read abit more AND THINK before you write because YOUR writing BEFORE you THINK isn't working out too well for you!


So by believing that nature isn't my master I'm guilty of maladjusted thinking. You are full of shit.


Not at all, BUT failure to observe certain functions so OBVIOUS and pushing forwards with ideas contrary to what is obvious makes your ideas maladjusted, as well as your thinking.


I didnt fail to observe anything, I'm just saying that any biological programing is immaterial when justifying or criticizing sexual behavior. If I want to engage in sexual intercourse for pleasure only, I dont care what nature's intent is. No more than I care what nature thinks when I put on my pants. You on the other hand are trying to have it both ways. You want to argue for nature's intent to criticize behavior when it suits you,  then ignore nature's intent when it disagrees with behavior you are engaging in. But I guess the two faced are incapable of owning their hypocrisy.


I was stating a biological purpose for Men And women being wired to be attracted to each other as NORMAL. That is ONE reason of several. Once again having sex for pleasure is something else; however, if one is having sex or just  ATTRACTED to the same sex, then THAT is abnomal, not nornal or ANYTHING on that side of it. Now, justify your reaosns as to why homosexuality is legitimate . No hypocrisy here.


  It is hypocrisy.  If nature's intent defines whats normal with regards to sexual behavior then it also defines normal in every other case.  Which leaves me with only one question... Why should I give a flying shit what you/nature think is normal???


If nature is the judge, then wearing pants isn't normal.  But somehow that violation of normal doesn't seem to bother you. That's because you're a hypocrite.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:06-12-2018 10:19:44Copy HTML

I think all you blowhard natural law proponents need to shed your clothes and go about your lives as nature intended... butt naked.  That is, unless you wanna be a hypocrite.



Not at all. Is this your idiotic attempt at a rebuttal for what is obvious about the deviant dysfunction of homosexuality, meaning you cannot offer a swerious argument in FAVOR of , other than that which originates from your irrational thoughts?


So basically you think you can cherry pick which of nature's intents you must subscribe to. I say if you are going to condemn  behavior because it's in contradiction to what you think natures intent is, then you must do so for all of nature's intents... not just when it suits your anti homosexuality agenda. Your clothes are unnatural, so get rid of them if you are ruled by nature's intent.


AGAIN, nonsense argument as EVERYONE has to have clothes for protection of many forms. BIOLOGICAL programming is as it is and yet YOU even want to DENY the REALITY of that. ABSURD thinking will not JUSTIFY dysfunctuional and deviant behavior.



"Each organic being is striving to increase in a geometrical ratio . . . each at some period of its life, during some season of the year, during each generation or at intervals, has to struggle for life and to suffer great destruction . . . The vigorous, the healthy, and the happy survive and multiply."
—On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, 1859


 It's not nonsense. On the one hand you're insisting that we must follow nature's intent, then on the other hand you want to ignore natures intent. You are two faced, plain and simple.


Yes it, and YOUR, thinking are NONSENSE.

Reproductive fitness has nothing to do with ATTRACTION.  Two separate issues. IN FACT BECAUSE some may not be able to reprioduce is EXACTLY why each gender is programmed , NORMALLY, to be ATTRACTED to the opposite sex. If INDIVIDUAL people attempt to conceive and don't under this attraction, then the next one or the one after thnat will be successful at reproduction.

REPRODUCTION and ATTRACTION are TWO separate ISSUES. Each indiviidual does NOT have to reproduce BUT each individual has to be ATTRACTED to the OPPOSITE sex in order to boost the odds of SURVIVAL of the SPECIES.

The homosexual is an anomaly of nature,


 No it's your two faced swalking that is nonsense.   You want to criticize one type of behavior because it contradicts your view nature's intent but then you wanna turn around and give another type of behavior a pass even though it also contradicts natures obvious intent. If nature wanted you to wear clothes then you would have been born wearing them. So stop being intellectually dishonest, and own your arguement. You want to have it both ways. You want to hold the homosexual accountable to natures intent when it suits your agenda but at the same time you want to ignore nature's intent when it's not in line with your own behavior. 



You aren't THAT stupid in order to push your maladjusted thinking forward, are you? CLOTHES are necessary as a protection for ALL with NO distinguishing features. NATURE provided animals for MANY uses, among them for pelts so , IF I were you, I'd read abit more AND THINK before you write because YOUR writing BEFORE you THINK isn't working out too well for you!


So by believing that nature isn't my master I'm guilty of maladjusted thinking. You are full of shit.


Not at all, BUT failure to observe certain functions so OBVIOUS and pushing forwards with ideas contrary to what is obvious makes your ideas maladjusted, as well as your thinking.


I didnt fail to observe anything, I'm just saying that any biological programing is immaterial when justifying or criticizing sexual behavior. If I want to engage in sexual intercourse for pleasure only, I dont care what nature's intent is. No more than I care what nature thinks when I put on my pants. You on the other hand are trying to have it both ways. You want to argue for nature's intent to criticize behavior when it suits you,  then ignore nature's intent when it disagrees with behavior you are engaging in. But I guess the two faced are incapable of owning their hypocrisy.


I was stating a biological purpose for Men And women being wired to be attracted to each other as NORMAL. That is ONE reason of several. Once again having sex for pleasure is something else; however, if one is having sex or just  ATTRACTED to the same sex, then THAT is abnomal, not nornal or ANYTHING on that side of it. Now, justify your reaosns as to why homosexuality is legitimate . No hypocrisy here.


  It is hypocrisy.  If nature's intent defines whats normal with regards to sexual behavior then it also defines normal in every other case.  Which leaves me with only one question... Why should I give a flying shit what you/nature think is normal???


If nature is the judge, then wearing pants isn't normal.  But somehow that violation of normal doesn't seem to bother you. That's because you're a hypocrite.


Nature is One of the factors along with otherw, not the ONLY factor. It is NOT hypocritical simply because you say so with no backup. Repaeting unconnected points on your part doesn't advance your argument at all.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:06-12-2018 11:08:25Copy HTML

YOU can have it SLEE ZEE. Evolution, as it's base has the principle of Survival of the Species , and DUMMY's nonsense not withstanding, it remains as an underklying principle. _____ Once again, it is NOT "my nonsense" it is the science of genetics. I am honored you believe I am the father of genetics, but alas I didn't write those books. You say above that it comes down to the survival of the species. THAT WAS MY POINT EXACTLY (not "mine" but the point of genetics). It is about the species. Your claim is that an individual genetically wired to not want to procreate is an evolutionary deviant. That is absurd and it is patently false. It has really no bearing on the survival of the SPECIES. The carrying capacity of the earth is not great enough for us all to have the same number of children. As I have told you repeatedly and you ignore or simply call "nonsense", having billions of genes, many times resulting in expressions that seem to an imbecile like you to serve no evolutionary purpose, are in fact the engine of evolution. Having these billions of combinations that result in what you erroneously call defects is EXACTLY WHAT HELPS OUR SPECIES (not individuals) survive. If you want to read about the difference between genetic, individual and species selection, I suggest The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins.....or you can pull shit out of your ass as you continue to do so.
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 12:02:22Copy HTML

While it is true that the more genes an organism has, the more chances that a deleterious mutation will occur and cause disease.   Even within one genome, the longer the gene sequence is, the higher the chances of mutation occurring, famous cases being BRCA1 and NF1, as well as the dystrophin gene (feel free to google). So why do some animals have so many genes? Everything in biology is a trade off: something that confers an advantage comes at a cost. More genes mean more diversification of functions. The organism acquires new adaptations if it has more genes, and gene duplications that allow redundancy and changes in function. This is how biological systems are formed by evolution.  So these phenotypic variations are not necessarily defects, but a necessary part of evolution for our continued survival. Evolution is a mindless process, it is not directed, nor does it care if a few individuals get sick or don't reproduce. If the increase in gene number and functions allowed an organism to successfully occupy a new niche and thrive, the loss of a few individuals from the reproductive population is of no importance and it won't stop the process. If the processes that resulted in an increase in genome complexity had not occurred, there would be only one organism on Earth, some type of microbe with the minimal number of genes that can make a cell functional. This is genetics Wale...not skdummy's nonsense.  If you want nonsense, read the shit you pull out of your ass and write in here.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 12:04:19Copy HTML

Any biological programing intended by nature to bring about procreation is not a legitimate argument against consensual homosexuality or heterosexuality that's only purpose is pleasure. Only a weasel ass zealot would stoop low enough to claim it is.


Fuck nature, it can kiss my ass.

Unlike a Lie, the Truth requires no eloquence.
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  • From:Norway

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 05:22:22Copy HTML


THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 10:07:08Copy HTML

Fuck nature, it can kiss my ass.



You rebel, you.


We're all prisoners of conscious.~
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 11:03:12Copy HTML

Fuck nature, it can kiss my ass.



You rebel, you.



We are all in outright rebellion against nature. Some of us can own it.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 02:11:03Copy HTML

EZ. Homosexuality is unnatural -Debunked pretty much what I’ve been saying.  People don’t understand how species evolution works in the genetic realm and either argue religion directly or try to support their religion with the fall back argument that lack of procreation goes against nature so to be born that way is unnatural and defective.  That is Wale.  He has the identical view as Amadinjhad from Iran that evolution is only the fittest who breed survive.  Killing gays then becomes no big deal for him.  The fittest only survive today, and if the environmental template changes, and it always does, you may not be the fittest. How does a species ensure it has the genetic variability in the population to survive all the changes that keep coming?.  A: We keep a storehouse of building material that is seemingly unused.  This storehouse is always adapting, changing, mutating, and essentially experimenting.  The outcome of the genetic storehouse mixing things up has a goal of putting everything out there to see what works.  In some species, non breeding forms and individuals have become instrumental to the survival of the species.   A number of species have developed a third nonbreeding “gender”.   Even if it were true that it is “unnatural”, it does not make it immoral.   And for anyone who has dabbled in evolutionary genetics knows this is untrue and intellectually destitute as described in the video.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 02:34:28Copy HTML

Even if it were true that it is “unnatural”, it does not make it immoral.   And for anyone who has dabbled in evolutionary genetics knows this is untrue and intellectually destitute as described in the video.


=======


Just curious, Skw...from that perspective, how is morality defined?  Is it a social construct?   



I recall you posted articles on this previously....which I read...but I don't recall a clear answer to that question.   I seem to recall they discussed HOW humans evolved to having moral values, but that doen't really explain why one culture may find homosexuality immoral and another acceptable.  Obviously this question isn't just applicable to homosexuality as it has impact on race, ethnicity, gender, etc.   My interests have always tilted more toward philosophy than science, and from that vantage point I don't think human beings have changed in recorded history.  We seem to share a common set of basic morals...what seems to differ is HOW they are applied.  For example, all cultures seem to hold murder of the innocent humans beings is wrong as a core principle but what defines "innocent" and sometimes "human beings" differs. 

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 03:15:20Copy HTML

Any biological programing intended by nature to bring about procreation is not a legitimate argument against consensual homosexuality or heterosexuality that's only purpose is pleasure. Only a weasel ass zealot would stoop low enough to claim it is.


Fuck nature, it can kiss my ass.


Consentual homosexuality is NOT normal by MANY standards. Are YOU a HOMOSEXUAL BTW?

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 03:17:52Copy HTML

YOU can have it SLEE ZEE. Evolution, as it's base has the principle of Survival of the Species , and DUMMY's nonsense not withstanding, it remains as an underklying principle.

Once again, it is NOT "my nonsense"  it is the science of genetics. I am honored you believe I am the father of genetics, but alas I didn't write those books. You say above that it comes down to the survival of the species.  THAT WAS MY POINT EXACTLY (not "mine" but the point of genetics).  It is about the species.  Your claim is that an individual genetically wired to not want to procreate is an evolutionary deviant.  That is absurd and it is patently false.   It has really no bearing on the survival of the SPECIES.  The carrying capacity of the earth is not great enough for us all to have the same number of children. As I have told you repeatedly and you ignore or simply call "nonsense", having billions of genes, many times resulting in expressions that seem to an imbecile like you to serve no evolutionary purpose, are in fact the engine of evolution.  Having these billions of combinations that result in what you erroneously call defects is EXACTLY WHAT HELPS OUR SPECIES (not individuals) survive. If you want to read about the difference between genetic, individual and species selection, I suggest The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins.....or you can pull shit out of your ass as you continue to do so.


At the CORE of SURVIVAL is the ability of the RACE to  expand and  only does so by procreation. In order for this to occur, or HAVE occurred, then it is requisite that each sex/ gender is attracted to the OPPOSITE sex for this purpose..

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 03:21:21Copy HTML

While it is true that the more genes an organism has, the more chances that a deleterious mutation will occur and cause disease.   Even within one genome, the longer the gene sequence is, the higher the chances of mutation occurring, famous cases being BRCA1 and NF1, as well as the dystrophin gene (feel free to google). So why do some animals have so many genes? Everything in biology is a trade off: something that confers an advantage comes at a cost. More genes mean more diversification of functions. The organism acquires new adaptations if it has more genes, and gene duplications that allow redundancy and changes in function. This is how biological systems are formed by evolution.  So these phenotypic variations are not necessarily defects, but a necessary part of evolution for our continued survival. Evolution is a mindless process, it is not directed, nor does it care if a few individuals get sick or don't reproduce. If the increase in gene number and functions allowed an organism to successfully occupy a new niche and thrive, the loss of a few individuals from the reproductive population is of no importance and it won't stop the process. If the processes that resulted in an increase in genome complexity had not occurred, there would be only one organism on Earth, some type of microbe with the minimal number of genes that can make a cell functional. This is genetics Wale...not skdummy's nonsense.  If you want nonsense, read the shit you pull out of your ass and write in here.


No it i your nonsense BECAUSE , in other areas you argue that existence occurred by circumstance, and parts already existed in the form of energy. IF, and a big IF, we accept your argument for the moment, there is NO intelligence behind bringing that about; therefore, there is NO THOUGHT going into having a species (humans in this case) having MULTIPLE CHOICES. The DESIGN was MALE & & FEMALE, to be attracted to EACH OTHER to promote the contiuation of the species. 

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 03:23:31Copy HTML

Even if it were true that it is “unnatural”, it does not make it immoral.   And for anyone who has dabbled in evolutionary genetics knows this is untrue and intellectually destitute as described in the video.


=======


Just curious, Skw...from that perspective, how is morality defined?  Is it a social construct?   



I recall you posted articles on this previously....which I read...but I don't recall a clear answer to that question.   I seem to recall they discussed HOW humans evolved to having moral values, but that doen't really explain why one culture may find homosexuality immoral and another acceptable.  Obviously this question isn't just applicable to homosexuality as it has impact on race, ethnicity, gender, etc.   My interests have always tilted more toward philosophy than science, and from that vantage point I don't think human beings have changed in recorded history.  We seem to share a common set of basic morals...what seems to differ is HOW they are applied.  For example, all cultures seem to hold murder of the innocent humans beings is wrong as a core principle but what defines "innocent" and sometimes "human beings" differs. 


OH yes it does . I would THEN ask YOU, by what BASIS do YOU discern moral and immoral, if not by ABSOLUTES? Are you saying in your response here that MORAL is decided by majority vote?

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 03:24:21Copy HTML

EZ. Homosexuality is unnatural -Debunked pretty much what I’ve been saying.  People don’t understand how species evolution works in the genetic realm and either argue religion directly or try to support their religion with the fall back argument that lack of procreation goes against nature so to be born that way is unnatural and defective.  That is Wale.  He has the identical view as Amadinjhad from Iran that evolution is only the fittest who breed survive.  Killing gays then becomes no big deal for him.  The fittest only survive today, and if the environmental template changes, and it always does, you may not be the fittest. How does a species ensure it has the genetic variability in the population to survive all the changes that keep coming?.  A: We keep a storehouse of building material that is seemingly unused.  This storehouse is always adapting, changing, mutating, and essentially experimenting.  The outcome of the genetic storehouse mixing things up has a goal of putting everything out there to see what works.  In some species, non breeding forms and individuals have become instrumental to the survival of the species.   A number of species have developed a third nonbreeding “gender”.   Even if it were true that it is “unnatural”, it does not make it immoral.   And for anyone who has dabbled in evolutionary genetics knows this is untrue and intellectually destitute as described in the video.


OH yes it does . I would THEN ask YOU, by what BASIS do YOU discern moral and immoral, if not by ABSOLUTES? Are you saying in your response here that MORAL is decided by majority vote?

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 04:00:02Copy HTML

Any biological programing intended by nature to bring about procreation is not a legitimate argument against consensual homosexuality or heterosexuality that's only purpose is pleasure. Only a weasel ass zealot would stoop low enough to claim it is.


Fuck nature, it can kiss my ass.


Consentual homosexuality is NOT normal by MANY standards. Are YOU a HOMOSEXUAL BTW?


So what. I'm sure those standards are as petty and irrelevant as your biological programing BS.

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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 05:36:40Copy HTML

Is it a social construct? Re: Morality I recall you posted articles on this previously....which I read...but I don't recall a clear answer to that question. I seem to recall they discussed HOW humans evolved to having moral values, but that doen't really explain why one culture may find homosexuality immoral and another acceptable. Obviously this question isn't just applicable to homosexuality as it has impact on race, ethnicity, gender, etc. My interests have always tilted more toward philosophy than science, and from that vantage point I don't think human beings have changed in recorded history. We seem to share a common set of basic morals...what seems to differ is HOW they are applied. For example, all cultures seem to hold murder of the innocent humans beings is wrong as a core principle but what defines "innocent" and sometimes "human beings" differs. ___ Different people and cultures find it immoral or not immoral that is true. I would argue that how we view the definition of the word is mostly what differs, not morality itself. Although morality does have a societal construct element and some fluidity as well is undeniable. The different interpretations of morality are likely both social and biological constructs. While there is no hard line here, I believe something is not immoral if it does no harm to others and is between consenting adults. That doesn't mean it is moral....it is just not immoral. I would also argue that cultures who view it as immoral are simply wrong and have uninformed biases, prejudices, etc.
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 05:47:23Copy HTML

While it is true that the more genes an organism has, the more chances that a deleterious mutation will occur and cause disease. Even within one genome, the longer the gene sequence is, the higher the chances of mutation occurring, famous cases being BRCA1 and NF1, as well as the dystrophin gene (feel free to google). So why do some animals have so many genes? Everything in biology is a trade off: something that confers an advantage comes at a cost. More genes mean more diversification of functions. The organism acquires new adaptations if it has more genes, and gene duplications that allow redundancy and changes in function. This is how biological systems are formed by evolution. So these phenotypic variations are not necessarily defects, but a necessary part of evolution for our continued survival. Evolution is a mindless process, it is not directed, nor does it care if a few individuals get sick or don't reproduce. If the increase in gene number and functions allowed an organism to successfully occupy a new niche and thrive, the loss of a few individuals from the reproductive population is of no importance and it won't stop the process. If the processes that resulted in an increase in genome complexity had not occurred, there would be only one organism on Earth, some type of microbe with the minimal number of genes that can make a cell functional. This is genetics Wale...not skdummy's nonsense. If you want nonsense, read the shit you pull out of your ass and write in here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No it i your nonsense BECAUSE , in other areas you argue that existence occurred by circumstance, and parts already existed in the form of energy. IF, and a big IF, we accept your argument for the moment, there is NO intelligence behind bringing that about; therefore, there is NO THOUGHT going into having a species (humans in this case) having MULTIPLE CHOICES. The DESIGN was MALE & & FEMALE, to be attracted to EACH OTHER to promote the contiuation of the species. ______ You are making less than zero sense here Wale. Rambling nonsense all of it. Firstly. I cited the genetics. It is not my nonsense. It is science. Secondly, the rest of your rambling is pure gibberish. It is a fact animals have large genomes to put together all sorts of combinations, some currently unsuccessful or seemingly not useful, so that the species will survive future changes in their environment and interactions with it. The environment is the template. The genes are thrown into the environment to see which survive. The environment is constantly changing...so today's genes may not survive tomorrow. This is a fact of genetics....not my nonsense. There is no need to even bring the existence of God question up. Life exists. The changing environment exists. Life has to constantly change in order to keep up with the changing environment with no help from God whether your God is real or not. To do that, we have lots of genes that mix, mutate, and express themselves in infinite ways. This means it is logical, reasonable, and technically correct that all sorts of outcomes that an imbecile like yourself may believe are "defects", actually don't harm anything and are part of our species genetics that will keep the species alive.
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  • From:USA

Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 08:02:43Copy HTML

While it is true that the more genes an organism has, the more chances that a deleterious mutation will occur and cause disease.   Even within one genome, the longer the gene sequence is, the higher the chances of mutation occurring, famous cases being BRCA1 and NF1, as well as the dystrophin gene (feel free to google). So why do some animals have so many genes? Everything in biology is a trade off: something that confers an advantage comes at a cost. More genes mean more diversification of functions. The organism acquires new adaptations if it has more genes, and gene duplications that allow redundancy and changes in function. This is how biological systems are formed by evolution.  So these phenotypic variations are not necessarily defects, but a necessary part of evolution for our continued survival. Evolution is a mindless process, it is not directed, nor does it care if a few individuals get sick or don't reproduce. If the increase in gene number and functions allowed an organism to successfully occupy a new niche and thrive, the loss of a few individuals from the reproductive population is of no importance and it won't stop the process. If the processes that resulted in an increase in genome complexity had not occurred, there would be only one organism on Earth, some type of microbe with the minimal number of genes that can make a cell functional. This is genetics Wale...not skdummy's nonsense.  If you want nonsense, read the shit you pull out of your ass and write in here.

No it i your nonsense BECAUSE , in other areas you argue that existence occurred by circumstance, and parts already existed in the form of energy. IF, and a big IF, we accept your argument for the moment, there is NO intelligence behind bringing that about; therefore, there is NO THOUGHT going into having a species (humans in this case) having MULTIPLE CHOICES. The DESIGN was MALE & & FEMALE, to be attracted to EACH OTHER to promote the contiuation of the species.

You are making less than zero sense here Wale.  Rambling nonsense all of it. Firstly.  I cited the genetics.  It is not my nonsense.  It is science.   Secondly, the rest of your rambling is pure gibberish. It is a fact animals have large genomes to put together all sorts of combinations, some currently unsuccessful or seemingly not useful, so that the species will survive future changes in their environment and interactions with it.  The environment is the template.  The genes are thrown into the environment to see which survive.  The environment is constantly changing...so today's genes may not survive tomorrow.   This is a fact of genetics....not my nonsense.  There is no need to even bring the existence of God question up.  Life exists.  The changing environment exists.  Life has to constantly change in order to keep up with the changing environment with no help from God whether your God is real or not.  To do that, we have lots of genes that mix, mutate, and express themselves in infinite ways. This means it is logical, reasonable, and technically correct that all sorts of outcomes that an imbecile like yourself may believe are "defects", actually don't harm anything and are part of our species genetics that will keep the species alive.


Not gibberish at all, except to those who reject reality. humans are made male and female. You like to cite the animal kingdom, well they are made male and female. Did you ever notice that , when presentations and examinations of animals. all kinds, are made that NEVER is the category of homosexual animals EVER brought into the presentation AND is ALWAYS presented in terms of MALE and FEMALE ? You have to continually convolute and distort some factual information to legitimaize homosexuality, which itself is a distortion DUMMY

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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

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wales, I suggest you attempt to comprehend the facts in reality that are presented here totally objectively. 


It's time you realize that you might be mistaken, and the truth is here. 

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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

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wales, I suggest you attempt to comprehend the facts in reality that are presented here totally objectively. 


It's time you realize that you might be mistaken, and the truth is here. 


Knowing you Im sure this NOT an objective video SLEE ZEE. You befin by wanting to swallow homosexuality ( pun intended) whole. By normal and rational standards homosexulity is a deviation from normal and dysfunctional to say the least!

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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:07-12-2018 08:38:56Copy HTML

OKEE DOKEE wales, carry on, all that you deserve will come to you. Happy trails wails...


Dismissed

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

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wales, I suggest you attempt to comprehend the facts in reality that are presented here totally objectively. 


It's time you realize that you might be mistaken, and the truth is here. 


I viewed it. I was correct. Sources cited amd explanations given are designed to give tortured distortions to arrive at that which is simply absurd. Flawed and predetermined sources from the outset.

Dawkins, REALLY? Procreation, or ability has NOTHING to do with the dysfunction of homosexuality. This is a presentaion of sophisticated nonsense.

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Not gibberish at all, except to those who reject reality. humans are made male and female. You like to cite the animal kingdom, well they are made male and female. Did you ever notice that , when presentations and examinations of animals. all kinds, are made that NEVER is the category of homosexual animals EVER brought into the presentation AND is ALWAYS presented in terms of MALE and FEMALE ? You have to continually convolute and distort some factual information to legitimaize homosexuality, which itself is a distortion DUMMY _____________________________ It is you who rejects the reality of genetics. The attempts to explain that reality to you whizzed right past your pinhead. Why we have millions of gene combinations that adapt and change and result in all sorts of outcomes naturally is unrelated to the fact humans are born male and female. I wont bother to explain the genetics to you a forth time. You will only say "you are distorting it DUMMY", without actually providing any rebuttal whatsoever. Why are you here Wale? It cant be to debate, since you do no such thing.
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Date Posted:07-12-2018 11:34:41Copy HTML

Is he saying that homosexuality is made in the bedroom of an older brother? I was under the impression they were made in the front rows of movie theaters, or in the private quarters of priests. Is there a homosexual gene? The military has something against them, but they have proven themselves on the field of battle throughout history. My ID was pulled for a shakedown even though I was married at the time because some Lesbians had recently married men to escape being thrown out of our beloved Corps. Eventually I was released as things got sorted only to discover my husband, concerned more about his dinner than my obligations to the Corps, thought I should have gone AWOL instead of waiting for my Commanding Officer to release my ID. Once, waiting for the sergeant major, near the phones in her office, I overheard one side of a phone conversation that sounded like a husband being chewed out by his wife, so the whole they get along better was baloney. They are people with preferences different from my own and it’s a free country. Our differences make us interesting, but then I’m a descendant of the wrongfully accused witch, Mary (TOWNE) ESTEY. What do I know?
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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:08-12-2018 01:50:14Copy HTML

Not gibberish at all, except to those who reject reality. humans are made male and female. You like to cite the animal kingdom, well they are made male and female. Did you ever notice that , when presentations and examinations of animals. all kinds, are made that NEVER is the category of homosexual animals EVER brought into the presentation AND is ALWAYS presented in terms of MALE and FEMALE ? You have to continually convolute and distort some factual information to legitimaize homosexuality, which itself is a distortion DUMMY

It is you who rejects the reality of genetics. The attempts to explain that reality to you whizzed right past your pinhead.  Why we have millions of gene combinations that adapt and change and result in all sorts of outcomes naturally is unrelated to the fact humans are born male and female.  I wont bother to explain the genetics to you a forth time.  You will only say "you are distorting it DUMMY", without actually providing any rebuttal whatsoever. Why are you here Wale?  It cant be to debate, since you do no such thing.


I WONT bother to explain REALITY to you, which you spend ALL your time rejecting. BUT humans are made male and female. You like to cite the animal kingdom, well they are made male and female. Did you ever notice that , when presentations and examinations of animals. all kinds, are made that NEVER is the category of homosexual animals EVER brought into the presentation AND is ALWAYS presented in terms of MALE and FEMALE ? You have to continually convolute and distort some factual information to legitimaize homosexuality, which itself is a distortion DUMMY. What ESCAPES YOU DUMMY?

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Re:"I'm Gay"............. so what? if I am or not? Time to Grow Up!

Date Posted:08-12-2018 01:51:55Copy HTML

OKEE DOKEE wales, carry on, all that you deserve will come to you. Happy trails wails...


Dismissed


" I cannot refute ANYTHING so , in my DEMENTED thinking, IF I say 'dismissed', I win, YAY"- SLEE ZEE

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There's obviously nothing more futile that arguing with a brain dead cultist. Dismissed indeed.

Unlike a Lie, the Truth requires no eloquence.
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Date Posted:08-12-2018 03:51:40Copy HTML

There's obviously nothing more futile that arguing with a brain dead cultist. Dismissed indeed.


" I cannot really respond with ANYTHING serious , so in my mind, I dismiss those i cannot answer, meaning that I adopt the childish way out,  sidestep in lieu of a direct answer and then call the game in my favor" -PAVLOVDOG

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" I cannot really respond with ANYTHING serious" Wale IRONY AWARD FOR THE YEAR
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