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  • From:USA

Date Posted:05-11-2018 06:28:09Copy HTML

Wow! Tough call for tomorrow.

High voter participation on both sides.

Passion for and against Trump.

A great economy that folks take for granted.


More money being spent than on any previuous midterm.

Generic ballots favoring dems by 5-10%.

Few media predictors.



My turn.

Democrats win 42 House seats, the senate republicans gain 2 seats. Governors, Dems gain nine. Biggest surprise, Ted loses in Texas. Next biggest suprise, Florida has a democratic governor.

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  • From:Norway

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:05-11-2018 07:15:00Copy HTML

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  • From:Norway

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:05-11-2018 10:48:35Copy HTML

Before the Midterms, Five Questions for the Political Left

Charlene Carruthers, Truthout: As the 2018 midterm elections near, and I prepare to vote, I join political leftists across the country who remain skeptical about the significance and power of voting. Contending for political power does not begin or end on Election Day. A candidate-based, party-based approach is not a long-term movement-building strategy that lives beyond electoral politics. We need more than reform; we need transformation from what the world is, into what it should be.

Read the Article


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  • From:Norway

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 04:15:36Copy HTML

Vote Against the Litany of Lies

The GOP is openly talking about gutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, the programs you’ve paid for throughout your working life. Vote!

Anti-Trump protestors demonstrate across the street from McKenzie Arena, where U.S. President Donald Trump is holding a rally in support of Republican Senate candidate Rep. Marsha Blackburn, November 4, 2018 in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Blackburn, who represents Tennessee's 7th Congressional district in the U.S. House, is running in a tight race against Democratic candidate Phil Bredesen, a former governor of Tennessee. The two are competing to fill the Senate seat left open by Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), who opted to not seek reelection. (Photo: Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Here’s my closing argument.

If you haven’t already, here’s what you do on Tuesday, November 6: Vote. Vote. Vote.

If you’re eligible to vote and don’t, I’ll arrange to have an earworm transmitted into your skull that plays nothing but Justin Bieber singing “What Do You Mean?” 24/7. Don’t make me go there.


Or, in the far classier, more eloquent words of congressman and civil rights hero John Lewis, “During another period people waited in immovable lines, faced billy clubs and cattle prods, in order to register and vote. Have courage, raw courage, and let nothing stop you from exercising your right to vote in this election. Do your part. Vote.”


Vote on the issues that are important to you: health care, education, the environment, women's reproductive rights, student loans, etc. Vote locally for local candidates you trust on issues that affect you, your family and community.


But also keep asking yourself, why should we continue to allow a know-nothing, narcissistic egomaniac free rein to destroy a democracy that once represented, in Abraham Lincoln’s famous words, “the last best hope of Earth?”


Because the economy is doing well? This shameless president is quick to take credit for what is, according to Forbes magazine, “just a continuation from Obama’s presidency.” Job growth has been steady for the last eight years.


And try selling that booming economy to those who are working two and three and four jobs to scratch out a living, the 41 million Americans in poverty, a third of them kids—or to the more than half a million homeless. As Philip Alston, U.N. special rapporteur on extreme poverty, said in June, “In a rich country like the United States, the persistence of extreme poverty is a political choice made by those in power.”


Why would you vote to keep Trump unchecked? Because he and Republican candidates suddenly are promising that they’d never, cross their hearts, ever disallow people with pre-existing conditions from decent health care? That’s a lie; they’ve spent eight years trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act some seventy times and the Justice Department backs a Texas lawsuit that would overturn Obamacare’s protection of insurance for those with pre-existing conditions.


And lest we forget, should they hold onto their majorities in the House and Senate, the GOP leadership is openly talking about gutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, the programs you’ve paid for throughout your working life. These reductions are to compensate for the trillion-dollar deficit they themselves created with their billions in beloved tax cuts for the rich. There’s even talk about cutting or eliminating the Federal minimum wage.


Or would you vote for Trump’s cohort because you think Democrats want unguarded open borders—another lie—or that marauding caravans of brown-skinned foreigners are going to sweep into the country laden with disease and explosive vests? Trump makes incendiary noises about voiding the 14th amendment to the Constitution and sending as many as 15,000 troops to the Mexican border, defending us against an imaginary, bogus enemy.

Former secretary of state and chair of the joint chiefs of staff Colin Powell said, “I see no threat requiring this kind of deployment,” and he’s right. It’s a flim-flam charade that could cost taxpayers up to $10 million a day, a cynical political stunt steeped in resentment and hate.


"Barbed wire used properly can be a beautiful sight.” Trump honest-to-God said that on Saturday. Let that sink in for a moment.  Land of the free and home of the brave.

He says such things even though the United States is a nation of immigrants, a society made up of people from every other country, Trump concocts a phony national emergency, rejects refugees, tears children from their families and places them in prisons, mocks other lands, and pledges to build a wall to keep people out of America.


His infamous wall will not be built; the wall is in his mind, the wall is in the minds of those of his followers who refuse to open their eyes and ears to comprehend the contributions and needs of the world around them.  Such beliefs must be rejected. We must celebrate the opposite,  the belief that openness and unity  are the only paths to peace and freedom. You can take a stand with your vote.


This is a presidency built on indecency, amorality and falsehood. The Washington Post’s FactChecker database of his “tsunami of untruths” has now gone past 6420: “[I]n the seven weeks leading up the midterm elections, the president made 1,419 false or misleading claims — an average of 30 a day.”

According to Peter Baker and Linda Qiu of The New York Times, it is “a litany of misleading statements and falsehoods that exaggerate even legitimate accomplishments and distort opponents’ views beyond the typical bounds of political spin. In the past couple of weeks alone, the president has spoken of riots that have not happened, claimed deals that have not been reached, cited jobs that have not been created and spun dark conspiracies that have no apparent basis in reality. He has pulled figures seemingly out of thin air, rewritten history and contradicted his own past comments.”


Domestically, Trump has resorted not only to lies but to paranoid politics, fear-mongering and racism aimed at diverting attention from the hollowness of his programs. There is no national emergency; the “American carnage” he decried in his inaugural address comes instead from a weaponized extreme right he urges on as he simultaneously attacks the nation’s free press as an enemy of the people. He’s deeply afraid of what reporters uncover about his rule on what seems like an hourly basis: corruption run amok, nepotism, deep deregulation, injustice, his failure to cope with infrastructure or gun violence or schools or veterans or pretty much anything of substance.


As for overseas, it’s true that it’s a difficult world out there but our president makes it far worse with his zero-sum, it’s-not-enough-for-me-to-win, everyone-else-has-to-lose philosophy. He has embraced dictators in a bear hug, declared America First while encouraging rabid nationalism in other countries, fostered an inchoate trade policy and rejected global cooperation.


His lack of historical knowledge and refusal to learn the lessons of the world are deadly dangerous. When news came out that he refused to give up a mobile phone that is being hacked regularly by the Chinese and others, perhaps even more disturbing was that some aides were unperturbed, “because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities.”


Tuesday will be our chance, on a nationwide basis, to steer our—our—country away from a further descent into madness, to throw a roadblock in front of a lying would-be tyrant, to set boundaries, to force oversight. And we must vote not only for the representatives who will challenge his policies and investigate his scheming in Washington but for the state officials and legislators who will press for reform, change voting laws and oversee redistricting after the 2020 census that will combat the plague of gerrymandering that has given the GOP disproportionate power in the House of Representatives.


As Abraham Lincoln said in 1862, “We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.”

Vote. Vote. Vote.


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  • From:Norway

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 05:32:35Copy HTML

Crisis for American Democracy': It's 2018, in the Richest Nation on Earth, and Voting Machines Still Distorting Elections

"Voting machines that flip votes don't need to be hacked by a malicious foreign actor to undermine public confidence in the integrity of our democracy. That's being done for Americans, by Americans."

byJake Johnson, staff writer

Poll worker Mary Ellison prepares a voting machine at the Prince Hall Masonic Lodge during the South Carolina Democratic Presidential Primary February 27, 2016 in Columbia, South Carolina. (Photo: Sean Rayford/Getty Images)

It's 2018, and the United States is the richest nation in the history of the world... but much of the country still doesn't have functional, glitch-free voting machines.

"This machine problem is essentially threatening to call into question the entire election in Texas." 

—Beth Stevens, Texas Civil Rights ProjectAs if the barriers to voting erected by right-wing politicians looking to suppress minority turnout weren't enough, error-riddled, hack-prone, and outdated voting machines throughout the nation—from Texas to Georgia to Wisconsin—are wreaking havoc in the midst of an unprecedented surge in early voting and raising alarming questions about the integrity of vote counts less than 24 hours before millions cast their ballots in the critical midterm elections.

In Texas, where Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke is vying for Republican Sen. Ted Cruz's seat in an extremely close race that has drawn national attention, civil rights groups have alleged that voting machines are deleting Democratic votes entirely or switching them to the Republican candidate.

"This machine problem is essentially threatening to call into question the entire election in Texas," Beth Stevens, voting rights legal director for the Texas Civil Rights Project, told Politico.

In a tweet on Sunday, the Brennan Center for Justice called on voters to immediately notify poll workers if their votes are being switched to a different candidate:

Similar problems have marred Georgia's gubernatorial race, where Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp—who is also in charge of overseeing the state's elections—is taking on Democrat Stacey Abrams, who recent polls show is less than three points away from the lead.

In the build-up to Tuesday's election, Kemp has deployed a number of tactics voting rights advocates have decried as dirty tricks to purge hundreds of thousands of voters from the rolls and prevent thousands more from exercising their constitutional right to the franchise.

"What we're seeing now is a concerted effort to make sure that our election system does not work for everyone." 

—Sue Halpern, New Yorker

On top of these efforts, civil rights groups have accused Kemp of deliberately ignoring calls to replace Georgia's outdated voting machines, which the Georgia NAACP alleged during early voting in recent weeks were changing selections from Abrams to Kemp.

But because Georgia is one of five states that use entirely paperless voting machines, there is no paper trail to confirm and remedy machine errors.

"We've experienced this before," Phyllis Blake, president of the Georgia NAACP, told USA Today of the voting machine issues in an interview late last month. "They should have been replaced about 10 years ago."

As the New Yorker's Sue Halpern noted on Sunday, deeply flawed and outdated voting machines "reflect a wider crisis for American democracy," and the GOP's continued refusal to fix these flaws is intricately connected to the party's decades-long assault on voting rights.

"What we're seeing now... is a concerted effort to make sure that our election system does not work for everyone," Halpern concluded. "Voting machines that flip votes don't need to be hacked by a malicious foreign actor to undermine public confidence in the integrity of our democracy. That's being done for Americans, by Americans."


Writing for the New York Review of Books on Monday, attorney and election integrity advocate Jennifer Cohn also warned that unreliable voting machines pose an existential threat to the nation.

"This potential weakness is critical," writes Cohn, "because the entire system of our democracy depends on public trust—the belief that, however divided the country is and fiercely contested elections are, the result has integrity. Nothing is more insidious and corrosive than the idea that the tally of votes itself could be unreliable and exposed to fraud."

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 08:54:23Copy HTML

 
   
 
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 01:09:35Copy HTML

Isn't the fact that there were zero consequences for the corruption displayed by the left in 2016 a huge part of our problem? Why would we re-elect the same people?


Oh, that's right. Trump.


Lol.

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 01:40:23Copy HTML

Vote Against the Litany of Lies

The GOP is openly talking about gutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, the programs you’ve paid for throughout your working life. Vote!


___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
"..gutting  Social Security"
Which is what democrats did in 1965 to establish MEDICARE

"gutting Medicare.."
Which is what dumbocrats did under Obama yo establish Obamacare

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 04:23:25Copy HTML





My turn.

Democrats win 42 House seats, the senate republicans gain 2 seats. Governors, Dems gain nine. Biggest surprise, Ted loses in Texas. Next biggest suprise, Florida has a democratic governor.



I don't know the results and I also don't care.  However, I will be very surprised if Cruz loses in the same way I was very surprised that Trump won.  Anytime a ridiculously unfit numbnut breaks through structural advantage just proves the only poll that actually matters is the one on election day, but what it actually means will be endlessly debated and suffered under thereafter.  

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  • From:Norway

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 04:55:37Copy HTML

"Vote on the issues that are important to you: health care, education, the environment, women's reproductive rights, student loans, etc. Vote locally for local candidates you trust on issues that affect you, your family and community."

skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #10
  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 07:25:59Copy HTML

Trafalger Group, (Frank Luntz), just released final polling for the midterm races in Arizona, Texas, and Florida.  95% confidence in all three states, they are predicting McSally wins in Arizona, Cruz in Texas, Desantis and Scott in Florida.


We'll see.

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  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 08:05:18Copy HTML

Missouri is looking good for McCaskill going down. Georgia Governorship is looking good for Kemp.


Again, according to Trafalgar.  Should be interesting.

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 09:08:57Copy HTML

Yawn

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:06-11-2018 09:55:26Copy HTML

Generic ballots favoring dems by 5-10%. ______________________________ That is not enough. In 2012, GOP won house 234-201 with 1.4 million fewer popular votes. Yes, there is no electoral college for the House....its all GOP gerrymandering. And they are worried about a dead guy still on a voter registration somewhere. Puh-lease.
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  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 12:31:00Copy HTML

My turn.

Democrats win 42 House seats,

WRONG. 

the senate republicans gain 2 seats. SO FAR, I THINK A FEW MORE TO COME.


Governors, Dems gain nine. At this point I think it's four, with two races yet too close to call.


Biggest surprise, Ted loses in Texas.  WRONG.


 Next biggest suprise, Florida has a democratic governor.  WRONG.


KEEP YOUR DAY JOB.


Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 03:26:10Copy HTML

Like Trump, Mini-Trump or Skrumpie will be trying to sell the loss of the House and Cruz's near defeat in a deep red state as a victory. Kind of like Green Bay celebrating their loss to New England as a victory because Aaron Rogers didn't break his legs. Yea!! A huge success. Trump is thrilled....to have Nancy Pelosi back as speaker. A great night. Democrats suddenly have a foothold that gives them subpoena power to probe deep into Trump's personal and professional missteps — and his long-withheld tax returns. Trump is thrilled. Tremendous success! He cant wait to crow about it at his next rally in Ammoshed, West Virginia.
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 04:11:12Copy HTML

I think this is going to be epic fun fo the next 2 years and 3 days. As far as investigations go, can't he just stall like the DOJ and FBI have done for nearly 2 years?
TITANPANTHER1 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #17
  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 04:48:18Copy HTML

Impressive turnout by American voters especially the gals...hell hath no fury. And according to even the liberal political analysts, this was not the so-called "blue wave" Democrats were hoping for but nevertheless, a solid gain in the House and a victory for the Dems. A small token for the Gopers was actually adding to their majority in the Senate. Most are predicting gridlock for the next two years.


And a very impressive run at the Senate by Beto O'Rourke, very energetic campaign that galvanized new Latino voters and almost pulled off the upset over Cruz.

Should be an interesting two years ahead.



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  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 05:20:25Copy HTML

Not only was it not a blue wave, it was barely a pee-yellow trickle.

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
skrumpie Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #19
  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:07-11-2018 05:40:06Copy HTML

Like Trump, Mini-Trump or Skrumpie will be trying to sell the loss of the House and Cruz's near defeat in a deep red state as a victory.   Kind of like Green Bay celebrating their loss to New England as a victory because Aaron Rogers didn't break his legs.  Yea!!  A huge success.  Trump is thrilled....to have Nancy Pelosi back as speaker.  A great night.  Democrats suddenly have a foothold that gives them subpoena power to probe deep into Trump's personal and professional missteps — and his long-withheld tax returns. Trump is thrilled.  Tremendous success!  He cant wait to crow about it at his next rally in Ammoshed, West Virginia.


By what authority does Pelosi, or anyone else who may become Speaker if those who told their constituents they would NEVER vote for her for Speaker srcrew them once again, have the right to demand to see private tax returns?


You know what?  Your stupid analogy never happened, but your ignorance remains.


A win is a win, no matter how narrow.

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:08-11-2018 09:03:18Copy HTML

Wow, skrumpie, you must be really dizzy after all that spinning.  LOL

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:08-11-2018 10:26:36Copy HTML

Wow, skrumpie, you must be really dizzy after all that spinning.  LOL


BUT nowhere NEAR how lightheaded YOU get after servicing your blowbuddies BOGUSPUMPED! LOL

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:08-11-2018 10:54:18Copy HTML

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A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z "If you can read these 26 letters, there is nothing about the universe that you can't learn." -- Lambros D. Callimoahos
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:08-11-2018 01:36:23Copy HTML

My take on the results:


Not a blue wave, but blue made a few important [for them] gains not just in the House but in state downtickets.  On the whole, not a great night for Trump, not a great night for the GOP downticket, or for Dems who ran the Kav witchtrial, or for those hoping for a more Prog leaning direction. I would sum it up as a Purple check on excesses in total, with both parties making some gains but enough losses to leave both with difficulties in governing and winning future gains. 





All of the above will continue to drive the extremists out of their miinds, entrench them further in their own confirmation bias, while average Americans still have no reasonable or responsible representation of their interests. 

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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:09-11-2018 01:46:06Copy HTML

 Isn't the fact that there were zero consequences for the corruption displayed by the left in 2016 a huge part of our problem?


Really? So you think this all started in 2016, hmmm?


~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:09-11-2018 01:55:53Copy HTML

 On the whole, not a great night for Trump, not a great night for the GOP downticket, or for Dems who ran the Kav witchtrial, or for those hoping for a more Prog leaning direction. I would sum it up as a Purple check on excesses in total, with both parties making some gains but enough losses to leave both with difficulties in governing and winning future gains. 


I don't think that case can be made. Claire McCaskill was not leaning in a Prog direction, but lost. Beto O'Rourke didn't win, but to come as close as he did to Cruz in a very red state and one in which Trump did really well speaks volumes. Gavin Newsom has made a career out of being anti-Trump and did VERY well in CA. That he would win was granted, but that he would win by so much? Hell, look how well Kevin DeLeon did against Feinstein, and given that it was a centrist Dem on the ballot, the margin in her favor of 54-46 was REALLY low, one would assume she would get not only centrist Dem votes, but a lot of Republican votes as well to ensure de Leon didn't win, and he still do very well.


In the meantime, the number of women elected, and their backgrounds, indicates that on the ground floor progs did very well. It wasn't centrist Dems and Republicans who elected the first gay governor of a state in Colorado. Bill Nelson and Andrew Gillum did very well in another state that has trended solidly republican in national offices--except for Obama himself--but at the state and congressional level, Republicans have been doing very well in FL.


All in all, I am very heartened by the results from a progressive viewpoint. I didn't expect waves of progressives to be swept into office. But I think the statement was made loud and clear to Dems that progressive positions bring in votes to Dems, not drive them away, and certainly don't drive enough centrists away to make a difference, otherwise Republicans wouldn't have lost statehouses, lost the House.


The one area in which the GOP did do well was in the Senate, and there, the tendency of those Senators who lost was to be more conservative than those who won. And again, given that Dems had to defend twice as many seats as Republicans, an only lost a couple, is very heartening. Sinema is right now in the lead in AZ, and would be a clear winner except that the Green candidate, who dropped out, still got 2.7% of the vote, otherwise that would be a Dem pickup.

~Oh, I wish it would rain.~ --The Temptations
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  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:09-11-2018 01:42:05Copy HTML

Beto O'Rourke didn't win, but to come as close as he did to Cruz in a very red state and one in which Trump did really well speaks volumes.



How do you think he would have done, realistically, if the left had not poured 100 million dollars into that race?

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:09-11-2018 02:19:38Copy HTML

MRat, my metric was this, and please note I said "on the whole": For races at federal, state, local levels, Progs won 74 and lost 103 (as of yesterday...a few races still in process of being stolen..er..counted)...that is a net loss. In particular, there were several close races for the House where Hillary beat Trump in 2016, yet the Prog who won the primary over the moderate did not win the seat. FTR, I view "came close to winning" as "losing"...because it is. Many races were close for both Dem and GOP winners so the same can be said to the losers of those races.
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:10-11-2018 03:52:05Copy HTML

"FTR, I view "came close to winning" as "losing"...because it is. Many races were close for both Dem and GOP winners so the same can be said to the losers of those races." Except that politics isn't a zero-sum game, if you advance your agenda, then you have won. You don't have to win elections to move the needle: you have to show that those who WANT to serve have to respect the power of your vote. I guarantee you that Texas Republicans are looking at the Cruz election and saying, "Yikes, way too close for comfort", and moreover, the WOULDN'T have been saying that in the past. You seem to be of the opinion that unless progs won every single race, or at least 50%+1, then they can't claim a victory, that is a metric that applies only to this election, and NOT to an agenda as a whole. The question is not whether they won 60+ but lost 100+, the question is what number of 160 would they have achieved 20, 10 or even five years ago.
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  • From:Argentina

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:10-11-2018 01:13:56Copy HTML

So the conservative agenda was advanced then.  Thanks!

Try to remember the kind of September when men weren't girls and girls weren't fellas..................
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  • From:USA

Re:election tomorrow

Date Posted:10-11-2018 05:35:53Copy HTML

Except that politics isn't a zero-sum game, if you advance your agenda, then you have won. You don't have to win elections to move the needle: you have to show that those who WANT to serve have to respect the power of your vote. I guarantee you that Texas Republicans are looking at the Cruz election and saying, "Yikes, way too close for comfort", and moreover, the WOULDN'T have been saying that in the past. You seem to be of the opinion that unless progs won every single race, or at least 50%+1, then they can't claim a victory, that is a metric that applies only to this election, and NOT to an agenda as a whole. The question is not whether they won 60+ but lost 100+, the question is what number of 160 would they have achieved 20, 10 or even five years ago.




You are over reading into my analysis.  I am discussing the results from the perspective of simple math within the total framework of fed/state/local races. 


To your argument, I would not argue the Prog agenda isn't advancing.  In fact, I would argue the GOP is advancing it or at least Trump has managed to persuade formerly stauch conservatives not to give two shits about their own principles and embrace statism as desirable.  That said, the fact Dems need Prog votes is true BUT they also need moderate votes.  As the Progs get more extreme in their illiberal unhinged tantrums, moderates will shy away.  The results bear that out in loss of seats where blue had advantage to win, but couldn't flip with a Prog candidate.  


If you want a blue wave, control your crazies.   You can't so...best of luck.  
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